Re: protein & other questions

[Guest guest]

> Can you give me the names and links of the tasteless proteins that

you can

> sprinkle on foods (are they good?) and the liquid proteins?>>>>>>

Hi, Carole: I don't know about the tasteless stuff, but some protein

powders that worked for me: Designer Protein Chocolate and Schiff

Pharmacies Women's Replacement Vanilla (soy) protein. I mixed both

with Lactaid milk for the first few months then switched to regular.

I never had a problem with the Lactaid or other dairy products but

relied on them heavily in the first few weeks to get all my protein

in.

<<<<<< I am getting

> ready for when I come home from the hospital and I won't be able to

eat much,

> but want to get my proteins in.

> I already know the mantra sip sip walk walk, and from what I've read

here,

> the first few weeks you don't really have to worry too much about

getting in

> enough protein, just enough water, right?>>>>>>>

I would TRY to get the protein in. I think it really helps in the

healing process (I really loaded up on protein in the weeks and

particularly days beforehand and I know this helped in my recovery. I

also kept really, really hydrated). I know I'm not the norm, but I

was able to get 75 gms/protein in within the first few days I was

home. I did it with supplements (both liquid and bar) and lots of

dairy (plain yogurt, cottage cheese, cheeses on crackers) as well as

tuna fish, soy milk (this is an excellent source of protein ANd a way

to keep hydrated), high protein soups (Chickarina soup was one of the

highest with little soy meatballs - yUM!). I didn't experience any

nausea and I didn't have problems with portions (I started out at

about 4-6 ounces), so I can see where if one has those difficulties it

would not be easy to eat as frequently as I did and/or not eat high

protein foods necessarily (especially if one's body has an aversion to

dairy immediately post-op).

I think hydration is most important, but try to get that protein in if

you can. Protein shakes are an EXCELLENT source, especially if you

can't eat more solid stuff right away.

>>>>>>>>> How about other beverages, such as tea or coffee? Are they

a total no no?>>>>>>>

Well, I didn't have any tea or coffee until at least 3 weeks post-op.

I think they are to be avoided immediately b/c they can irritate the

stomach AND the caffine can interfere with calcium absorption. I

don't think this would apply to herbal teas, though. You may find

that warm liquids are preferred or that they are abhored immediately

post-op. I preferred cold drinks (like pre-op) and had room temp/cool

water a lot, gatorade (don't forget this to get the electrolytes

balanced - Dr. Quinn actually told me I was drinking TOO MUCH water in

the first three days after surgery and needed gatorade! LOL). Don't

forget high protein drinks like milk (I started out with skim Lactaid

and that was great) and soy milk. I didn't have any diet sodas

until later and I try to have non-caffinated diet sodas. I tried

Crystal Light but it tasted sickeningly sweet to me at that time (now

I drink it).

Come to think of it, I DID have my mom bring me some coffee at about

3-4 weeks post-op. I couldn't drink most of it (and I drank it at

times when I didn't take the calcium pills) but it was nice to have

again (I am a coffee drinker, man!).

>>>>>>> Why do some of you chose not to drink with meals? I've read

that some of you

> say that it takes up too much room and not enough room left for

> food.......now, does that mean you are still hungry but can't fit

any food in

> until you wait awhile? Or is it that you aren't hungry, but you

know you

> need to get your proteins in?>>>>>>>>

I have always had liquids with meals. Perhaps this is because I

didn't experience any nausea, tenderness, etc. and had 'full capacity'

(4-6 oz) after surgery. I could only take a few sips initially and

still can't really drink that much with meals now but I couldn't

imagine NOT being able to drink something while eating.

I always start with proteins -- fill up on that and then the other

stuff. Sometimes I'm just not hungry, period -- and I have a protein

shake that day. I've usually been able to get the protein in and the

liquids I've had have never really intereferred with my capacity to

eat in any way.

REally good questions! I hope my response helps in some way....

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

almost 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 202 lbs/size sweet 16/lar

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ! As usual, you've been very helpful. Just had some

of these same questions on my mind. 75 gms in the first few days??

Wow! I'm having trouble with 30-40. I guess I just keep pluggin

along.

Best,

Dr. Gagner

Lap D/S

11-20-01

> > Can you give me the names and links of the tasteless proteins

that

> you can

> > sprinkle on foods (are they good?) and the liquid proteins?>>>>>>

>

>

> Hi, Carole: I don't know about the tasteless stuff, but some

protein

> powders that worked for me: Designer Protein Chocolate and Schiff

> Pharmacies Women's Replacement Vanilla (soy) protein. I mixed both

> with Lactaid milk for the first few months then switched to

regular.

> I never had a problem with the Lactaid or other dairy products but

> relied on them heavily in the first few weeks to get all my protein

> in.

>

> <<<<<< I am getting

> > ready for when I come home from the hospital and I won't be able

to

> eat much,

> > but want to get my proteins in.

> > I already know the mantra sip sip walk walk, and from what I've

read

> here,

> > the first few weeks you don't really have to worry too much about

> getting in

> > enough protein, just enough water, right?>>>>>>>

>

>

> I would TRY to get the protein in. I think it really helps in the

> healing process (I really loaded up on protein in the weeks and

> particularly days beforehand and I know this helped in my

recovery. I

> also kept really, really hydrated). I know I'm not the norm, but I

> was able to get 75 gms/protein in within the first few days I was

> home. I did it with supplements (both liquid and bar) and lots of

> dairy (plain yogurt, cottage cheese, cheeses on crackers) as well

as

> tuna fish, soy milk (this is an excellent source of protein ANd a

way

> to keep hydrated), high protein soups (Chickarina soup was one of

the

> highest with little soy meatballs - yUM!). I didn't experience any

> nausea and I didn't have problems with portions (I started out at

> about 4-6 ounces), so I can see where if one has those difficulties

it

> would not be easy to eat as frequently as I did and/or not eat high

> protein foods necessarily (especially if one's body has an aversion

to

> dairy immediately post-op).

>

> I think hydration is most important, but try to get that protein in

if

> you can. Protein shakes are an EXCELLENT source, especially if you

> can't eat more solid stuff right away.

>

>

> >>>>>>>>> How about other beverages, such as tea or coffee? Are

they

> a total no no?>>>>>>>

>

> Well, I didn't have any tea or coffee until at least 3 weeks post-

op.

> I think they are to be avoided immediately b/c they can irritate

the

> stomach AND the caffine can interfere with calcium absorption. I

> don't think this would apply to herbal teas, though. You may find

> that warm liquids are preferred or that they are abhored

immediately

> post-op. I preferred cold drinks (like pre-op) and had room

temp/cool

> water a lot, gatorade (don't forget this to get the electrolytes

> balanced - Dr. Quinn actually told me I was drinking TOO MUCH water

in

> the first three days after surgery and needed gatorade! LOL).

Don't

> forget high protein drinks like milk (I started out with skim

Lactaid

> and that was great) and soy milk. I didn't have any diet sodas

> until later and I try to have non-caffinated diet sodas. I tried

> Crystal Light but it tasted sickeningly sweet to me at that time

(now

> I drink it).

>

> Come to think of it, I DID have my mom bring me some coffee at

about

> 3-4 weeks post-op. I couldn't drink most of it (and I drank it at

> times when I didn't take the calcium pills) but it was nice to have

> again (I am a coffee drinker, man!).

>

>

> >>>>>>> Why do some of you chose not to drink with meals? I've

read

> that some of you

> > say that it takes up too much room and not enough room left for

> > food.......now, does that mean you are still hungry but can't fit

> any food in

> > until you wait awhile? Or is it that you aren't hungry, but you

> know you

> > need to get your proteins in?>>>>>>>>

>

>

> I have always had liquids with meals. Perhaps this is because I

> didn't experience any nausea, tenderness, etc. and had 'full

capacity'

> (4-6 oz) after surgery. I could only take a few sips initially and

> still can't really drink that much with meals now but I couldn't

> imagine NOT being able to drink something while eating.

>

> I always start with proteins -- fill up on that and then the other

> stuff. Sometimes I'm just not hungry, period -- and I have a

protein

> shake that day. I've usually been able to get the protein in and

the

> liquids I've had have never really intereferred with my capacity to

> eat in any way.

>

> REally good questions! I hope my response helps in some way....

>

> all the best,

>

> lap ds with gallbladder removal

> January 25, 2001

> Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

>

> almost 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

>

> preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

> now: 202 lbs/size sweet 16/lar

[Guest guest]

Carole---

You may find that warm beverages go down much easier than straight

water. Ther are alot of wonderful caffeine free teas out there--

taste great and they are so soothing to the post op tummy

Pammi