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Jodi,

I don't know the name of the numbing cream but I can

tell you this, ask now if they can have a nicu nurse

put the iv in and use the iv needle from the nicu.

One time when was in the hospital for

dehydration I was actually sent home because they

tried two or three times and couldn't get an iv in.

When I went back 8 hours later and tried again they

finally got a nicu nurse in and since their equipment

is for smaller babies it worked. It took her two

times but it worked a lot easier.

I'll be thinking of you and . Please keep us

posted.

B

5 1/2 and Kelli 3

--- Jodi wrote:

> As some of you may or may not know, has an

> extra thumb on his

> left hand. And added bonus at birth. :o) It is

> too cute though.

> Anyway, he is scheduled to have it removed on

> Friday. He is supposed

> to be admitted on Thursday due to the fact that they

> want him to stop

> eating at midnight and the surgery isn't scheduled

> until 10:15 am.

> Obvioulsy, he needs an IV. I know there has been

> discussion about

> the things to use to help numb the site before an IV

> is placed. What

> are they called and which one seems to be the best.

> I think we

> should have plenty of time to put it on, so I

> suppose it doesn't have

> to be fast-acting. Also, was in the hospital

> the first three

> months of his life, and they blew every vein in his

> little body. To

> this day, they are very poor. So, it is possible I

> may have to put

> this stuff on more than one site???? Also, will the

> hospital have

> this stuff, or should I get a prescription before I

> go?? I would

> think they would have it, but who knows. I think

> that is all my

> question for now. I am pretty nervous about this

> procedure, but I

> think it is better to get it done while he is

> younger and avoid the

> teasing from the extra thumb. As if he isn't going

> to have enough to

> deal with. Hopefully he is still young enough, too,

> that he won't

> remember this procedure. I am just scared to put

> him under and all

> that.......you all know.

>

> Thanks for any help you all can offer,

> Jodi R.

> One nervous momma.

>

>

>

>

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I'm not sure the name, we don't use it because we have been told that

it can cause the veins to narrow, although some disagree with that,

and Coby's are too small the way it is. After 2 very bad experiences

we now have a standing order that if Coby needs an IV for any reason

it is put in by a NICU or PICU nurse. It shouldn't be a problem for

you to have this done since you won't be in a hurry. You will be at

the hospital in plenty of time for them to call one of the units and

have them send a nurse " when it's convienent for them " . Everytime we

have used one of their nurses in this way they have gotten Coby on the

first try. Make sure they tape him well so that if he sweats the tape

does not slide. Once it's in you don't want to lose it.

Coby has had 7 surgeries now and each one has been nerve racking. It

is such a scarey time, but you are educated about what is going on and

have the knowledge to watch over him. He will do great!!!! Hang in

there and keep us informed.

le, mom to:

Shye 10, Brock 8, and Coby (rss) & Carlee 2 yr old twins

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Jodi R,

You have two choices: Emla cream and Ella Max. Emla needs a

prescription and can constrict the veins, making it harder to find a

site. Ella Max is over the counter and is better for using for an

IV. The problem is that you don't know where they will want to place

the IV, so you are going to have to put it in several sites on his

arms.

I wish you the best with the surgery. I hope is as comfortable

as he can be and heals quickly with little pain.

Jodi Z

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YES! That is them. I knew one of them was the constricting kind. Do

you think if I took the Ella Max with me they would let me use it? You

know how they can be about stuff coming in from the outside. And like

B. said, I am going to request an NICU nurse to do it.

Hopefully they won't put up too much of a fight! They'll be

sorry. :o)

Jodi R.

> Jodi R,

>

> You have two choices: Emla cream and Ella Max. Emla needs a

> prescription and can constrict the veins, making it harder to find a

> site. Ella Max is over the counter and is better for using for an

> IV. The problem is that you don't know where they will want to place

> the IV, so you are going to have to put it in several sites on his

> arms.

>

> I wish you the best with the surgery. I hope is as

comfortable

> as he can be and heals quickly with little pain.

>

> Jodi Z

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le,

You hit the nail on the head. It is a nerve racking time. I hate

the thought of him having to go through surgery, but the extra thumb

will only eventually become a henderance to him. Better to do it

now, than to wait and let him be oustrasized because of it. Pray for

him that he will do fine you guys.

Thanks for the advice and support, le. My nervous habits come

out everytime. Baking is one of them and I baked cookies tonight.

Hate to see waht lies ahead the rest of the week. I bite the insides

of my lips too, and I have noticed and caught myself doing that

already. I hope I don't chew them raw! Done that before, too.

EECK,

Jodi

> I'm not sure the name, we don't use it because we have been told

that

> it can cause the veins to narrow, although some disagree with that,

> and Coby's are too small the way it is. After 2 very bad

experiences

> we now have a standing order that if Coby needs an IV for any

reason

> it is put in by a NICU or PICU nurse. It shouldn't be a problem

for

> you to have this done since you won't be in a hurry. You will be

at

> the hospital in plenty of time for them to call one of the units

and

> have them send a nurse " when it's convienent for them " . Everytime

we

> have used one of their nurses in this way they have gotten Coby on

the

> first try. Make sure they tape him well so that if he sweats the

tape

> does not slide. Once it's in you don't want to lose it.

>

> Coby has had 7 surgeries now and each one has been nerve racking.

It

> is such a scarey time, but you are educated about what is going on

and

> have the knowledge to watch over him. He will do great!!!! Hang

in

> there and keep us informed.

>

> le, mom to:

> Shye 10, Brock 8, and Coby (rss) & Carlee 2 yr old twins

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Jodi,

Even now for Max when he needs an IV, they call in the PICU nurses

because he is so hard to get right on the first couple of tries.

There is also a light they can use that shows the good, " fat " veins

that are there. They ALWAYS use that one.

Don't be afraid to be assertive. You can be nice about it, but you

can also be forceful. It was so hard to me to learn, but now nothing

holds me back. I can take things only for so long and then I go at

it. I never yell, but I know how to get what I want.

Jodi Z

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Jodie - Hey. First, we are saying lots of prayers for you.

will be just fine.

Ian has had two surgeries for which he has had to be under

anesthesia. Both times - he did fabulously well and came out of

anesthesia splendidly. I'm sure will do the same. It is

scary. The worst part is waiting. Wish I could be there with you.

Try to bring a book with you....or write your feelings down on

paper. I've even written a little letter for Ian telling him how it

felt waiting for him and how much I loved him - of which I kept it

in his Growing Up book - it helps to remind me for the next time

what its like and encourages me to be stronger.

One suggestion I have is to make sure that when doing an IV or any

type of blood draw that only an expert anesthesiologist do it.

WHENEVER I have to have blood drawn for Ian - I INSIST that only an

anesthesiologist draw the blood. It sounds like a pretty drastic

approach to blood draws - but, Ian ALWAYS has problems with his

veins. They can never find them! If that isn't an option (which in

one case it wasn't) I demanded that they only poke once. This

always has put pressure on the phlebotomists and when the

Anesthesiologist wasn't available, the NICU nurses would be called

in instead of a regular pediatric phleb. I always demand the best.

You should see their faces when I tell them they only get one

chance. (It's kinda funny) The last time they looked at me, walked

out of the room and low and behold - there were two NICU nurse

specialists with special lights and tiny needles and they only poked

him once!

This may sound strange, but the best part of all of this is when the

surgery is over,they are half asleep and you get to hold them for an

extended period of time - not the norm. It's a wonderful feeling to

be so connected and a comfort to them. I cherish those moments as I

know you will too.

You are a wonderful mother. You are making the right choices to

have the procedure done now and although it will be difficult,

remember that you have all of us thinking about you and your

family.

Our best to you. Keep us posted.

- H

> As some of you may or may not know, has an extra thumb on

his

> left hand. And added bonus at birth. :o) It is too cute

though.

> Anyway, he is scheduled to have it removed on Friday. He is

supposed

> to be admitted on Thursday due to the fact that they want him to

stop

> eating at midnight and the surgery isn't scheduled until 10:15

am.

> Obvioulsy, he needs an IV. I know there has been discussion about

> the things to use to help numb the site before an IV is placed.

What

> are they called and which one seems to be the best. I think we

> should have plenty of time to put it on, so I suppose it doesn't

have

> to be fast-acting. Also, was in the hospital the first

three

> months of his life, and they blew every vein in his little body.

To

> this day, they are very poor. So, it is possible I may have to

put

> this stuff on more than one site???? Also, will the hospital have

> this stuff, or should I get a prescription before I go?? I would

> think they would have it, but who knows. I think that is all my

> question for now. I am pretty nervous about this procedure, but I

> think it is better to get it done while he is younger and avoid

the

> teasing from the extra thumb. As if he isn't going to have enough

to

> deal with. Hopefully he is still young enough, too, that he won't

> remember this procedure. I am just scared to put him under and

all

> that.......you all know.

>

> Thanks for any help you all can offer,

> Jodi R.

> One nervous momma.

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Sorry . I should have read your post to Jodi before I sent

mine. Sometimes I skip over some of the posts - especially when my

children are trying to press the keys on my laptop, or they are

kissing my arm and yelling in my ear to get my attention. Uh Oh,

here comes another one. He's begging me for a popsicle for dinner

and ripping my horticulture magazine to see if I'm paying

attention. Better go. Great advice by the way!

- H

>

> > As some of you may or may not know, has an

> > extra thumb on his

> > left hand. And added bonus at birth. :o) It is

> > too cute though.

> > Anyway, he is scheduled to have it removed on

> > Friday. He is supposed

> > to be admitted on Thursday due to the fact that they

> > want him to stop

> > eating at midnight and the surgery isn't scheduled

> > until 10:15 am.

> > Obvioulsy, he needs an IV. I know there has been

> > discussion about

> > the things to use to help numb the site before an IV

> > is placed. What

> > are they called and which one seems to be the best.

> > I think we

> > should have plenty of time to put it on, so I

> > suppose it doesn't have

> > to be fast-acting. Also, was in the hospital

> > the first three

> > months of his life, and they blew every vein in his

> > little body. To

> > this day, they are very poor. So, it is possible I

> > may have to put

> > this stuff on more than one site???? Also, will the

> > hospital have

> > this stuff, or should I get a prescription before I

> > go?? I would

> > think they would have it, but who knows. I think

> > that is all my

> > question for now. I am pretty nervous about this

> > procedure, but I

> > think it is better to get it done while he is

> > younger and avoid the

> > teasing from the extra thumb. As if he isn't going

> > to have enough to

> > deal with. Hopefully he is still young enough, too,

> > that he won't

> > remember this procedure. I am just scared to put

> > him under and all

> > that.......you all know.

> >

> > Thanks for any help you all can offer,

> > Jodi R.

> > One nervous momma.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ____________________________________________________

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> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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