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It may be worthwhile for your husband to speak with your PCP about the

real risks associated with morbid obesity. If you had diabetes, there

was a treatment available to control it and your husband disapproved,

what would you do? Obesity is a disease which needs treatment and it is

your body, your life and only you can decide alone what you will do with

it.

Scheduled for BPD/DS with Dr. Herron, 1/18/02

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Has he even been to the DS website or read any research on the DS ? There have

been also many spouses who have been against the procedure until they went with

their spouse to the initial consult, met the doctor, asked questions, etc.

While you can understand his fear, you're doing this for your health..as for you

supporting him if you were 100% against a decision he made..well, it depends on

the decision..if the decision he made was to do something considered drastic to

improve his health, you knew he had researched both the surgery and the doctor

and the only thing that was preventing your support was the idea that there was

another viable long term solution and fear of losing him, then yes, he should

expect your 100% support because you should have faith that if there was another

non-surgical solution with the same long-term effectiveness you would choose it

in a heartbeat! Now, if he wanted your support to quit his job and follow the

Secret's catalog tour, that's another story! Bottom line, this is not

cosmetic and at this time, there is not a non-surgical method that has the same

long term effect. While the fear is natural, having him go to different

websites will help educate him on the reality that unfortunately, more people

die waiting for weight loss surgery than from weight loss surgery. You can also

have him write down his specific concerns or objections and sit down and address

one point at a time. Addressing him in an emotional manner will make him think

it's an emotional decision instead of a well-researched decision. I'm not

married, but while neither of my parents objected to me wanting to improve my

health, they objected to the idea of surgery. (Not that I needed their approval,

but I did want their support). I gave them the facts about the surgery,

explained the differences between the DS and the RNY, explained the complication

rate, how I chose my surgeon, the long term effectiveness, etc. By the time I

was done, my Mom was still naturally worried, but also supportive and my Dad

took a little more convincing (I gave him some websites so he could see for

himself) and in the end he finally conceded that I had done my research and was

making an educated decision. Of course, my Dad was the one that came to Delano

with me, I think he figured if he was there he could send enough positive energy

to get me through anything! That and everyone else's must have worked, because

like the majority of people..I came through with flying colors! Btw, I thought

he knew better, but my Dad did ask, why can't you just eat small amounts like

you would after surgery and lose weight that way ? I explained that it was a

question of satiety, after surgery, you eat a little bit and that makes you full

and satisfied..when you try to do that without surgery, unless you use drugs

like Meridia or Dexatrim which have side effects, then you're constantly hungry,

your body feels like you're starving it so it fights you and you're basically

not a fun person to be around..given all that..how long can you reasonably

expect to maintain that type of eating pattern without surgery ? He understood

that and I think your husband would as well, if he asks that question. The main

thing is to address all his concerns with the research you have done and then

also let him know all the things that you can't or don't do because of your

weight. Even people who are around us every day aren't aware of a lot of the

things we avoid or don't realize it's because of our weight.

Good luck and don't give up!

*hugs*

Anita

11/08/01 Dr Keshishian

11/08/01 320lbs

12/07/01 294lbs

12/18/01 286lbs

> Hi, group...sorry to dump all over you guys, but I

> don't know where else to turn.

>

> Even though I haven't posted a lot here, I do lurk

> every day, and feel as if I know some of you

> personally. I have my first consult with Dr. Herron

> on January 3rd...I've been researching D/S like hell

> for the past three months, and have already had the

> psych consult and I'm scheduled for the upper

> endoscopy, the sleep apnea test, and others.

>

> In the beginning, my d/h was 100% against surgery. He

> was very much afraid, and felt that there had to be a

> better/other way to lose the weight. I have spent

> many hours educating him, pleading with him to do some

> research on the D/S, crying, arguing, wheedling,

> pleading, yadda-yadda...for the past coupld of weeks,

> especially since I got the consult appointment, he's

> calmed down a lot, and not said one word against the

> surgery. Now, all of a sudden, this morning, I feel

> as if we're back to square one!!! Again,, he's

> talking about how against it he is, how there's got to

> be another way to lose the weight, etc...I'm just

> devastated!!!

>

> I told him again how much I needed him to be in my

> corner when I do this...he rejoined with: " how would

> you feel if I insisted upon doing something that you

> were 100% against? Would you be there for me 100%? "

>

> I just don't know where to turn at this point! If

> he's not going to be there, in a supportive role, for

> me, can I do this? I don't know about mosr of you,

> but I need to have my mate there for me...not only

> physically, but to really BE there to support me, my

> decision, and not to be the first one to say " I told

> you so " for the first " magic 6 weeks " .

>

> Have any of you had a similar situation two weeks

> pre-consult? I need some guidance here.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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You may be forced into making a choice between life and satisfying

your husband's wishes. It's not pretty, the choice you might face if

hubby does not come around. But, the choice is that simple: keeping

hubby happy or living. I hope that you choose life. It may break up

your marriage. But, so would your premature death.

You can count on the support of the folks on this list, if that is

any consolation.

--Steve

At 10:03 AM -0800 12/23/01, Commodore wrote:

>...

>

>I told him again how much I needed him to be in my

>corner when I do this...he rejoined with: " how would

>you feel if I insisted upon doing something that you

>were 100% against? Would you be there for me 100%? "

>

>I just don't know where to turn at this point! If

>he's not going to be there, in a supportive role, for

>me, can I do this? I don't know about mosr of you,

>but I need to have my mate there for me...not only

>physically, but to really BE there to support me, my

>decision, and not to be the first one to say " I told

>you so " for the first " magic 6 weeks " .

--

Steve Goldstein, age 61

Lap BPD/DS on May 2, 2001

Dr. Elariny, INOVA Fairfax Hospital, Virginia

Starting (05/02/01) BMI = 51

BMI on 12/18 = 38 (-84 lb.)

Just broke through the bumpy 4-week plateau!

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I'm so sorry to hear you're having problems with your DH! I haven't

had that experience so I don't know what to suggest other than making

sure he comes with you to the consult so that he can ask the doctor

about his concerns. He owes you at least that much.

Good luck!

Tracey in Santee (San Diego)

> Hi, group...sorry to dump all over you guys, but I

> don't know where else to turn.

>

> Even though I haven't posted a lot here, I do lurk

> every day, and feel as if I know some of you

> personally. I have my first consult with Dr. Herron

> on January 3rd...I've been researching D/S like hell

> for the past three months, and have already had the

> psych consult and I'm scheduled for the upper

> endoscopy, the sleep apnea test, and others.

>

> In the beginning, my d/h was 100% against surgery. He

> was very much afraid, and felt that there had to be a

> better/other way to lose the weight. I have spent

> many hours educating him, pleading with him to do some

> research on the D/S, crying, arguing, wheedling,

> pleading, yadda-yadda...for the past coupld of weeks,

> especially since I got the consult appointment, he's

> calmed down a lot, and not said one word against the

> surgery. Now, all of a sudden, this morning, I feel

> as if we're back to square one!!! Again,, he's

> talking about how against it he is, how there's got to

> be another way to lose the weight, etc...I'm just

> devastated!!!

>

> I told him again how much I needed him to be in my

> corner when I do this...he rejoined with: " how would

> you feel if I insisted upon doing something that you

> were 100% against? Would you be there for me 100%? "

>

> I just don't know where to turn at this point! If

> he's not going to be there, in a supportive role, for

> me, can I do this? I don't know about mosr of you,

> but I need to have my mate there for me...not only

> physically, but to really BE there to support me, my

> decision, and not to be the first one to say " I told

> you so " for the first " magic 6 weeks " .

>

> Have any of you had a similar situation two weeks

> pre-consult? I need some guidance here.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi

My husband was also 100% against the idea. He really doesn't trust

MDs, and just can't understand why I can't just " cut back " to lose

weight. I sat down with him and showed him a list of what I might

expect health wise within the next 20 years if I remained as big as I

am. I also told him what I really was missing in life, like getting

down and playing with our son, fitting into theater seats, etc. It

at least got him to go with me to the initial consultation. Here is

the clincher. My husband owns a landscape business, and the surgeon

we consulted with owns a sod company. Now who could predict that?

They connected, and he still isn't wild about the idea, but at least

thinks more highly about the surgeon! You just never know. Work to

get your husband to the consult, and take it from there. Nagging

never works. Being resolved, however, speaks volumes to men.

E (IL)

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Hi ,

I am in the research phase, and ready to make my first appointment. I

am sorry your husband is not very supportive. Would a visit to a counselor

help? Maybe he could explore his fears? I would imagine he is afraid and

wouldn't know what to do if something happened to you. He needs to know that

you have tried everything, and with what doctors know now, the easier course

isn't truly easier - it just draws out everything longer and makes everyone

miserable. I, too, would like an easier answer, but people who have never

been obese, have no idea how we can suffer from this condition. The best of

luck to you, and I do hope your husband turns around and gives you all the

support you need and deserve. Peaceful Holidays, to you and to your husband.

Ann

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