Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Hello everybody! First of all, I have to say thanks so much for all of the support you have given me over the last 17 months. This is my first post, but that does not mean I have not been here " lurking. " Without you, I might not have made it! THANK YOU!! Kayleigh is now 17 months old and she was born with severe bilateral club foot. I had no idea until she was born, so it was quite a surprise, but I am glad I did not know. Anyhow, we saw the recommended orthopedist and had two options – surgery or the Ponseti method. Like all of you, I did not want my baby to have to go through surgery and we chose the Ponseti method. I left with my 12 day old infant in casts and mom in tears. It was really hard. In fact it never got easier having the casts placed. Lucky for me, she only showed discomfort for a day after each casting and adjusted really well. At three months old, we received the dreaded Dennis Brown shoes. What a miserable contraption! Kayleigh was like Houdini. She could get out of her shoes in a matter of minutes. We had her shoes modified and tried everything we could think of. Many nights we would put her shoes back on 4-5 times before we went to bed. It made for a miserable several months. When talking to my doctor (who really was not helpful at all during the entire time I was with him), his answer to my Houdini was " only kids in Iowa (where Dr. Ponseti is) keep their shoes on. " Talk about major frustration!! Anyhow, I left that day determined my child was going to keep her shoes on and be a child in Colorado who succeeded. In the meantime I was looking for a new doctor. Throughout this ordeal, I wished I lived in Salt Lake City, Utah where there is a Shriner's Hospital. The Shriners goal is to make children walk. They specialize in orthopedics, spinal cord injuries and burns. The hospital in SLC was an orthopedic hospital. Well as I did my research I determined they have a clinic in Denver every other month. What luck, my situation was turning brighter! So in October (Kayleigh is now one year old) we met with Dr. Santora and Dr. Pond. They considered Kayleigh " failed " club foot treatment. Talk about a devastating moment in my life. My only child " failed. " But nevertheless, they had a very optimistic outlook and were armed with a new treatment plan. They were going to start the Ponseti Method over and try it again. Three days later I was on a plane to SLC for our first casting. This casting appointment was so much better than any of the other. Kayleigh would scream like we were amputating an appendage every time she was casted. Dr. Santora determined if a child is screaming and thrashing around while being casted, the casting is not all that great. He suggested many other alternatives to keeping her calm (remember she is a very opinioned one year old). I was still nursing her at the time and nursed her while she was having her casts done. It worked wonderfully. She never made a peep! What a relief, the memories of her previous reminded us of the misery encountered. After six weeks of flying to SLC, she had the tenotomy for the second time. Scary because this time she did have to have general anesthesia instead of done under a local. Plus we had to stay in the hospital overnight for monitoring. Much different the second time around. Anyhow, in January her final casts were taken off and her feet look BEAUTIFUL!! She wears AFO's at night...Dr. Santora determined the DBB was not a good fit for Kayleigh and due to her determination; we risked her feet failing again. It has been two months since she came out of her casts and her feet still look great. She is starting to walk now and it is a beautiful thing to watch. We head to SLC for a follow up appointment in two weeks. My moral of the story is if you are not comfortable with your doctor – find a new one!! A great doctor makes all the difference. Secondly if you do not live in Iowa or have access to Dr. Ponseti, look into the Shriner's Hospital – www.shrinershg.org. Almost every place in the country has a Temple within a short distance and somebody who can help. The application process is painless and the best thing is the care is FREE!! In all of my trips to SLC, I have had to pay for two. The local temple helped me with all of my costs. These men dedicate their lives to helping children. Many of these doctors have dedicated their lives to certain conditions – Dr. Santora's specialty is Clubfoot. He is redesigning the DBB to be more user friendly. I could go on and on in regards to the Shrine Hospital and how great the care is and the dedication exhibited, but I will save you all. If you would like more information, please contact me at jlevans13@... and I would be more than happy to help! Again, thanks to everybody who has posted questions, helpful tidbits and happy stories throughout the last 18 months – you have made my life easier in regards to Kayleigh's clubfoot! I appreciate everybody sharing your stories and good luck to each and every one of you. I will continue to come back because I am sure more questions will arise as my munchkin gets bigger! Thanks so much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Thank you very much for sharing your story and Kayleigh's story! As someone who is newer to this process it is so encouraging to hear success stories like Kayleigh's! What a wonderful advocate you were for your daughter and her treatment! Thank you! and Mallory (23/7 's---we started yesterday!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Jen, What a great positive story! Thanks for sharing. It's good to know that Dr. Santora was able to correct Kayleigh's feet and that she is doing so well now. The one thing that concerns me is that he is having you use AFO's. AFO's are just such a gamble because they can't hold the outward rotation of the foot and so often allow relapses. Have you considered getting the Ponseti/ brace, or even the Dobbs brace? I know that some Shriners have been hesitant to use the P/M brace due to the expense that they would incur but it is sooo good for these feet that have trouble with the traditional Markell shoes. There is also the brace that Dr. Dobbs in St. Louis has designed that you and Dr. Santora might be interested in - it's modified AFO's mounted to an articulating bar. The brace has a solid bar with pivot points at each end that allow the baby to move his/her feet separately from each other, and the AFO's are attached to it the same as a regular FAB, thus keeping the feet turned out to the appropriate 70 degrees. There's a link to a document about the brace here: http://members.tripod.com/ponseti_links-ivil/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles\ /dobbs_brace_guide2.pdf The brace is not widely available yet, but because Dr. Dobbs is affiliated with Shriners it should not be too difficult to arrange to get one from St. Louis, or for the StL Shriners to work out something with the SLC Shriners orthotics people. I definitely think it would be worth it to look into one of these options to ensure Kayleigh's continued success! Glad you delurked and shared your story! Mom to Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs' brace, 14hrs/day) > > Hello everybody! First of all, I have to say thanks so much for all > of the support you have given me over the last 17 months. This is > my first post, but that does not mean I have not been > here " lurking. " Without you, I might not have made it! THANK YOU!! > > Kayleigh is now 17 months old and she was born with severe bilateral > club foot. I had no idea until she was born, so it was quite a > surprise, but I am glad I did not know. Anyhow, we saw the > recommended orthopedist and had two options – surgery or the Ponseti > method. Like all of you, I did not want my baby to have to go > through surgery and we chose the Ponseti method. I left with my 12 > day old infant in casts and mom in tears. It was really hard. In > fact it never got easier having the casts placed. Lucky for me, she > only showed discomfort for a day after each casting and adjusted > really well. > > At three months old, we received the dreaded Dennis Brown shoes. > What a miserable contraption! Kayleigh was like Houdini. She could > get out of her shoes in a matter of minutes. We had her shoes > modified and tried everything we could think of. Many nights we > would put her shoes back on 4-5 times before we went to bed. It > made for a miserable several months. When talking to my doctor (who > really was not helpful at all during the entire time I was with > him), his answer to my Houdini was " only kids in Iowa (where Dr. > Ponseti is) keep their shoes on. " Talk about major frustration!! > Anyhow, I left that day determined my child was going to keep her > shoes on and be a child in Colorado who succeeded. In the meantime > I was looking for a new doctor. > > Throughout this ordeal, I wished I lived in Salt Lake City, Utah > where there is a Shriner's Hospital. The Shriners goal is to make > children walk. They specialize in orthopedics, spinal cord injuries > and burns. The hospital in SLC was an orthopedic hospital. Well as > I did my research I determined they have a clinic in Denver every > other month. What luck, my situation was turning brighter! So in > October (Kayleigh is now one year old) we met with Dr. > Santora and Dr. Pond. They considered Kayleigh " failed " > club foot treatment. Talk about a devastating moment in my life. > My only child " failed. " But nevertheless, they had a very > optimistic outlook and were armed with a new treatment plan. They > were going to start the Ponseti Method over and try it again. Three > days later I was on a plane to SLC for our first casting. > > This casting appointment was so much better than any of the other. > Kayleigh would scream like we were amputating an appendage every > time she was casted. Dr. Santora determined if a child is screaming > and thrashing around while being casted, the casting is not all that > great. He suggested many other alternatives to keeping her calm > (remember she is a very opinioned one year old). I was still > nursing her at the time and nursed her while she was having her > casts done. It worked wonderfully. She never made a peep! What a > relief, the memories of her previous reminded us of the misery > encountered. > > After six weeks of flying to SLC, she had the tenotomy for the > second time. Scary because this time she did have to have general > anesthesia instead of done under a local. Plus we had to stay in > the hospital overnight for monitoring. Much different the second > time around. Anyhow, in January her final casts were taken off and > her feet look BEAUTIFUL!! She wears AFO's at night...Dr. Santora > determined the DBB was not a good fit for Kayleigh and due to her > determination; we risked her feet failing again. > > It has been two months since she came out of her casts and her feet > still look great. She is starting to walk now and it is a beautiful > thing to watch. We head to SLC for a follow up appointment in two > weeks. > > My moral of the story is if you are not comfortable with your > doctor – find a new one!! A great doctor makes all the difference. > Secondly if you do not live in Iowa or have access to Dr. Ponseti, > look into the Shriner's Hospital – www.shrinershg.org. Almost every > place in the country has a Temple within a short distance and > somebody who can help. The application process is painless and the > best thing is the care is FREE!! In all of my trips to SLC, I have > had to pay for two. The local temple helped me with all of my > costs. These men dedicate their lives to helping children. Many of > these doctors have dedicated their lives to certain conditions – Dr. > Santora's specialty is Clubfoot. He is redesigning the DBB to be > more user friendly. > > I could go on and on in regards to the Shrine Hospital and how great > the care is and the dedication exhibited, but I will save you all. > If you would like more information, please contact me at > jlevans13@... and I would be more than happy to help! > > Again, thanks to everybody who has posted questions, helpful tidbits > and happy stories throughout the last 18 months – you have made my > life easier in regards to Kayleigh's clubfoot! I appreciate > everybody sharing your stories and good luck to each and every one > of you. I will continue to come back because I am sure more > questions will arise as my munchkin gets bigger! Thanks so much!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Jen, I'm glad that you de-lurked to share Kayleigh's story. Stories like yours about your experiences with your first doctor are part of the biggest frustrations that I have with the medical community regarding clubfoot treatment. Clearly, Kayleigh's first doctor was not using the Ponseti method correctly, even though they led you to believe that they were. I feel terrible for families like yours who believe that their child is in capable hands, only to find out months later that the doctor was not applying the treatment correctly. It appears that Kayleigh's clubfoot was never corrected completely by the first doctor, and this is why she wasn't able to use the FAB (DBB). I am glad that you were able to start over with another doctor and get her feet finally corrected! Kudos to you for following your heart and finding another doctor for your baby! Please note, though, that not all the Shriners hospitals have doctors who are trained in the Ponseti method. While the Shriners facilities are wonderful in their efforts to provide excellent medical care for free, the deciding factor when finding a doctor to treat clubfoot using the Ponseti method needs to be made based on the doctor themselves, not the hospital/facility. For example, mentioned Dr. Dobbs at the Shriners in St. Louis. There are other doctors at that same hospital who treat clubfoot, but not all of them use the Ponseti method like Dr. Dobbs does. Similarly, many hospitals have lots of pediatric orthopaedic surgeons on staff and typically, they all have different approaches to treating clubfoot. I don't want to poo-poo your praises for Shriners by any means, I just want to add the clarification that a parent really needs to research doctors as individuals when seeking out treatment! I also would encourage you, as did, to do some additional research on Kayleigh's bracing options. Dr. Ponseti has called the AFO useless in combating regression for clubfoot. Some form of FAB (whether it's the traditional Markell shoes on a bar, the Ponseti brace or the Dobbs' brace) needs to be worn at night to prevent relapse. There are a lot of recent publications (medical research) about the odds of relapse and the importance of the proper abduction (outward rotation angle) of the feet and the use of an FAB to prevent it. You can read some of this by clicking the related links at http://members.tripod.com/ponseti_links-ivil under the misc. posts section and medical papers section. I can assure you that if Kayleigh's feet are properly corrected, the FAB will not be an issue for her. Many families here have had to " start over " just like you did and introduce or re-introduce the brace at an older age (over 1 year). We can help you with trying to accomplish this goal. Otherwise, I fear that Kayleigh's odd of relapsing are high by only using an AFO, and I can tell by the tone of your note that you want to do everything you can to prevent her from regressing! To complicate matters, the AFO is really limited in keeping the Achilles' stretched, and since Kayleigh already has had two tenotomies, you probably wouldn't want to risk having to have another procedure due to the scar tissue. The FAB is the best way to keep her dorsiflexion adequate. Do you know what angle of abduction Dr. Santora was able to achieve with Kayleigh's last cast? Does she have good dorsiflexion after her second tenotomy? (ability to point toes up toward the shin) I hope you'll consider joining the yahoo groups CFPics and share pictures of Kayleigh's feet during her journey to correction with us! We're glad you're here and hope you'll continue to post updates and keep us informed on her progress! Regards, & (3-16-00, left clubfoot) > > Hello everybody! First of all, I have to say thanks so much for all > of the support you have given me over the last 17 months. This is > my first post, but that does not mean I have not been > here " lurking. " Without you, I might not have made it! THANK YOU!! > > Kayleigh is now 17 months old and she was born with severe bilateral > club foot. I had no idea until she was born, so it was quite a > surprise, but I am glad I did not know. Anyhow, we saw the > recommended orthopedist and had two options – surgery or the Ponseti > method. Like all of you, I did not want my baby to have to go > through surgery and we chose the Ponseti method. I left with my 12 > day old infant in casts and mom in tears. It was really hard. In > fact it never got easier having the casts placed. Lucky for me, she > only showed discomfort for a day after each casting and adjusted > really well. > > At three months old, we received the dreaded Dennis Brown shoes. > What a miserable contraption! Kayleigh was like Houdini. She could > get out of her shoes in a matter of minutes. We had her shoes > modified and tried everything we could think of. Many nights we > would put her shoes back on 4-5 times before we went to bed. It > made for a miserable several months. When talking to my doctor (who > really was not helpful at all during the entire time I was with > him), his answer to my Houdini was " only kids in Iowa (where Dr. > Ponseti is) keep their shoes on. " Talk about major frustration!! > Anyhow, I left that day determined my child was going to keep her > shoes on and be a child in Colorado who succeeded. In the meantime > I was looking for a new doctor. > > Throughout this ordeal, I wished I lived in Salt Lake City, Utah > where there is a Shriner's Hospital. The Shriners goal is to make > children walk. They specialize in orthopedics, spinal cord injuries > and burns. The hospital in SLC was an orthopedic hospital. Well as > I did my research I determined they have a clinic in Denver every > other month. What luck, my situation was turning brighter! So in > October (Kayleigh is now one year old) we met with Dr. > Santora and Dr. Pond. They considered Kayleigh " failed " > club foot treatment. Talk about a devastating moment in my life. > My only child " failed. " But nevertheless, they had a very > optimistic outlook and were armed with a new treatment plan. They > were going to start the Ponseti Method over and try it again. Three > days later I was on a plane to SLC for our first casting. > > This casting appointment was so much better than any of the other. > Kayleigh would scream like we were amputating an appendage every > time she was casted. Dr. Santora determined if a child is screaming > and thrashing around while being casted, the casting is not all that > great. He suggested many other alternatives to keeping her calm > (remember she is a very opinioned one year old). I was still > nursing her at the time and nursed her while she was having her > casts done. It worked wonderfully. She never made a peep! What a > relief, the memories of her previous reminded us of the misery > encountered. > > After six weeks of flying to SLC, she had the tenotomy for the > second time. Scary because this time she did have to have general > anesthesia instead of done under a local. Plus we had to stay in > the hospital overnight for monitoring. Much different the second > time around. Anyhow, in January her final casts were taken off and > her feet look BEAUTIFUL!! She wears AFO's at night...Dr. Santora > determined the DBB was not a good fit for Kayleigh and due to her > determination; we risked her feet failing again. > > It has been two months since she came out of her casts and her feet > still look great. She is starting to walk now and it is a beautiful > thing to watch. We head to SLC for a follow up appointment in two > weeks. > > My moral of the story is if you are not comfortable with your > doctor – find a new one!! A great doctor makes all the difference. > Secondly if you do not live in Iowa or have access to Dr. Ponseti, > look into the Shriner's Hospital – www.shrinershg.org. Almost every > place in the country has a Temple within a short distance and > somebody who can help. The application process is painless and the > best thing is the care is FREE!! In all of my trips to SLC, I have > had to pay for two. The local temple helped me with all of my > costs. These men dedicate their lives to helping children. Many of > these doctors have dedicated their lives to certain conditions – Dr. > Santora's specialty is Clubfoot. He is redesigning the DBB to be > more user friendly. > > I could go on and on in regards to the Shrine Hospital and how great > the care is and the dedication exhibited, but I will save you all. > If you would like more information, please contact me at > jlevans13@... and I would be more than happy to help! > > Again, thanks to everybody who has posted questions, helpful tidbits > and happy stories throughout the last 18 months – you have made my > life easier in regards to Kayleigh's clubfoot! I appreciate > everybody sharing your stories and good luck to each and every one > of you. I will continue to come back because I am sure more > questions will arise as my munchkin gets bigger! Thanks so much!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Congratulations on the successful outcome! And, good for you for sticking in there for your little one. I'm fairly new to the board. I joined two weeks after my daughter was born with bilateral clubfoot and I'm so glad I did. Thanks for sharing and have fun with Kayleigh. mommy to -J'nee, bcf, born 01.07.06 > > Hello everybody! First of all, I have to say thanks so much for all > of the support you have given me over the last 17 months. This is > my first post, but that does not mean I have not been > here " lurking. " Without you, I might not have made it! THANK YOU!! > > Kayleigh is now 17 months old and she was born with severe bilateral > club foot. I had no idea until she was born, so it was quite a > surprise, but I am glad I did not know. Anyhow, we saw the > recommended orthopedist and had two options – surgery or the Ponseti > method. Like all of you, I did not want my baby to have to go > through surgery and we chose the Ponseti method. I left with my 12 > day old infant in casts and mom in tears. It was really hard. In > fact it never got easier having the casts placed. Lucky for me, she > only showed discomfort for a day after each casting and adjusted > really well. > > At three months old, we received the dreaded Dennis Brown shoes. > What a miserable contraption! Kayleigh was like Houdini. She could > get out of her shoes in a matter of minutes. We had her shoes > modified and tried everything we could think of. Many nights we > would put her shoes back on 4-5 times before we went to bed. It > made for a miserable several months. When talking to my doctor (who > really was not helpful at all during the entire time I was with > him), his answer to my Houdini was " only kids in Iowa (where Dr. > Ponseti is) keep their shoes on. " Talk about major frustration!! > Anyhow, I left that day determined my child was going to keep her > shoes on and be a child in Colorado who succeeded. In the meantime > I was looking for a new doctor. > > Throughout this ordeal, I wished I lived in Salt Lake City, Utah > where there is a Shriner's Hospital. The Shriners goal is to make > children walk. They specialize in orthopedics, spinal cord injuries > and burns. The hospital in SLC was an orthopedic hospital. Well as > I did my research I determined they have a clinic in Denver every > other month. What luck, my situation was turning brighter! So in > October (Kayleigh is now one year old) we met with Dr. > Santora and Dr. Pond. They considered Kayleigh " failed " > club foot treatment. Talk about a devastating moment in my life. > My only child " failed. " But nevertheless, they had a very > optimistic outlook and were armed with a new treatment plan. They > were going to start the Ponseti Method over and try it again. Three > days later I was on a plane to SLC for our first casting. > > This casting appointment was so much better than any of the other. > Kayleigh would scream like we were amputating an appendage every > time she was casted. Dr. Santora determined if a child is screaming > and thrashing around while being casted, the casting is not all that > great. He suggested many other alternatives to keeping her calm > (remember she is a very opinioned one year old). I was still > nursing her at the time and nursed her while she was having her > casts done. It worked wonderfully. She never made a peep! What a > relief, the memories of her previous reminded us of the misery > encountered. > > After six weeks of flying to SLC, she had the tenotomy for the > second time. Scary because this time she did have to have general > anesthesia instead of done under a local. Plus we had to stay in > the hospital overnight for monitoring. Much different the second > time around. Anyhow, in January her final casts were taken off and > her feet look BEAUTIFUL!! She wears AFO's at night...Dr. Santora > determined the DBB was not a good fit for Kayleigh and due to her > determination; we risked her feet failing again. > > It has been two months since she came out of her casts and her feet > still look great. She is starting to walk now and it is a beautiful > thing to watch. We head to SLC for a follow up appointment in two > weeks. > > My moral of the story is if you are not comfortable with your > doctor – find a new one!! A great doctor makes all the difference. > Secondly if you do not live in Iowa or have access to Dr. Ponseti, > look into the Shriner's Hospital – www.shrinershg.org. Almost every > place in the country has a Temple within a short distance and > somebody who can help. The application process is painless and the > best thing is the care is FREE!! In all of my trips to SLC, I have > had to pay for two. The local temple helped me with all of my > costs. These men dedicate their lives to helping children. Many of > these doctors have dedicated their lives to certain conditions – Dr. > Santora's specialty is Clubfoot. He is redesigning the DBB to be > more user friendly. > > I could go on and on in regards to the Shrine Hospital and how great > the care is and the dedication exhibited, but I will save you all. > If you would like more information, please contact me at > jlevans13@... and I would be more than happy to help! > > Again, thanks to everybody who has posted questions, helpful tidbits > and happy stories throughout the last 18 months – you have made my > life easier in regards to Kayleigh's clubfoot! I appreciate > everybody sharing your stories and good luck to each and every one > of you. I will continue to come back because I am sure more > questions will arise as my munchkin gets bigger! Thanks so much!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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