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Hi Jane

I am not going to advise you on whether you need to take poor in or

not. I don't test my son's ketones and so I am not sure of what 85 would

indicate or what you should do.

However, while you wait for someone to respond, have you considered giving

her anything to eat? I was thinking ice cream or pop sickles or whatever she

loves. I wouldn't care about nutrition right now; just something! Also, if

she'll drink the OJ; keep it going. It's got the natural sugar and it's a

liquid (you don't want her to dehydrate). Also are you aware that some

stores sell something called pedialyte? It's for kids with stomach

upsets/diarrhea where they are not keeping very much down. It is high in the

required electrolytes for the body. It's a liquid that the kids drink (like

flavoured water). They might even sell them in popsicle form now; something

makes me think I read that. Anyway, my kids (unfortunately) refused to drink

the stuff but you might have more luck. A pharmacy would definitely have it.

Can you call your regular ped? It sounds like might be coming down

with something.

Anyway, I wish I could have given you a definite answer. Just know I'm out

here if you need to talk. Good luck and let us know how is doing!

Debby

HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!

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> Need some advice. My daughter did not eat well yesterday - very

> little in fact. This morning she had moderate ketones and will not eat -

> BUT she is drinking orange juice - a full sippy cup so far. Her blood

> sugars are 85 - after the OJ - this a.m. she was lethargic - and now she

> has energy after the drink. Do I bring her in even though she has energy?

> Also, she has had some loose stools. Help please with any advice. Jane,

> mom to - SGA - 19# - 29 3/4 " - periactin and prevacid.

>

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I would agree with Debby. And, her suggestion about eating anything

is right on. That's what I do with Ian - age 2 - RSS. Especially

when he's ill - sometimes we have tea parties with tiny little tea

cups with heavy whipping cream and we use gold fish crackers and m & m's

for " crumpets " . Believe it or not, I'm very big on nutrition and try

very hard to get the " right stuff in " - but, I make the exceptions

when necessary. Pedialyte does have popsicles - my children aren't

fond of them - but, if that's all we have - they usually don't turn

them down. I personally have reactive hypglycemia and the orange

juice always helps me. If you are concerened about too much sugar - I

gradually will water it down and switch to something else.

Not sure I'm helping - but, hope this offers you something else to

consider.

Thinking of you.

>

> Need some advice. My daughter did not eat well yesterday -

very little in fact. This morning she had moderate ketones and will

not eat - BUT she is drinking orange juice - a full sippy cup so far.

Her blood sugars are 85 - after the OJ - this a.m. she was lethargic -

and now she has energy after the drink. Do I bring her in even though

she has energy? Also, she has had some loose stools. Help please

with any advice. Jane, mom to - SGA - 19# - 29 3/4 " - periactin

and prevacid.

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You really need to be carefull because when children become Hypoglycemic and

you give them OJ to elevate it they can rebound real fast. If she continues

to spill keytones take her to the ER emediatly noone knows this routine better

than me we go through this on a daily basis. Good luck and keep us posted.

Chrissy

Mom to..........

Louis 6

Madison 3 1/2 Rss ( 20lbs 4oz)

Shane 1 1/2

10 months

PS Dr H told me as soon as Madison spills keytones it's an instant ER trip

no questions asked. Hope this helps

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Jane,

How is doing now? Is she able to keep up her blood sugar

levels? Does she still have moderate ketones? Is she eating at all?

If the answers to these questions are no, yes and no, then you need to

take her to the ER and have her admitted. She will need D10 IV fluids

to help get rid of the ketones and help stabilize her blood sugars.

Then you need to gradually reintroduce food as tolerated and slowly

wean her off the IV. I have this down to a science with Max.

I won't go into detail until I hear the latest from you. Just giving

her oj will not do the trick if the blood sugars go up, then down,

then up, etc. Lethargy is not a good thing for our kids. She needs

to be stabilized.

Jodi Z

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Thank you all for the advice. The OJ did perk her up and then about an hour

later she ate - and well - yogurt, cereal, a bite of banana AND a few bites of

toast. Later, I found another tooth showing itself - my daughter is almost 2

and has 2 - now almost 3 teeth. The rest of the day was fair eating - but

better than yesterday. I thought I was confident I would know when to take her

in - but this morning it was yes, then no, then " I don't know " . So thanks for

the input. She is doing well now - We will wake her tonight and try to give her

something. If another bad morning tomorow I will bring her in to make certain

there is not an underlying infection - i.e. ear.

Jane, mom to - 22 months SGA

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All I have to say is - I'm sure glad people like yourself and some

of the others have the wonderful knowledge that you do. It has

taught me a great lesson in coaching others carefully. Thank you

for your wisdom and help to others. Looks like I learn more and

more each day.

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> You really need to be carefull because when children become

Hypoglycemic and

> you give them OJ to elevate it they can rebound real fast. If she

continues

> to spill keytones take her to the ER emediatly noone knows this

routine better

> than me we go through this on a daily basis. Good luck and keep

us posted.

> Chrissy

> Mom to..........

> Louis 6

> Madison 3 1/2 Rss ( 20lbs 4oz)

> Shane 1 1/2

> 10 months

> PS Dr H told me as soon as Madison spills keytones it's an instant

ER trip

> no questions asked. Hope this helps

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Her blood sugars are OK because you are giving her the orange juice.

You have to monitor her ketones to see if her body has used up her

glycogen storage. I definitely have realized that we have to create

an Emergency Treatment pamphlet.

These kids have to be able to EAT foods -- it is the complex

carbohydrates that they need, in order to keep up their glycogen

storage. Keep testing her ketones AND her blood sugar levels. If she

spills moderate ketones regularly, even if her BSL are normal, take

her in for an IV. Jenn

>

> Need some advice. My daughter did not eat well yesterday -

very little in fact. This morning she had moderate ketones and will

not eat - BUT she is drinking orange juice - a full sippy cup so far.

Her blood sugars are 85 - after the OJ - this a.m. she was lethargic -

and now she has energy after the drink. Do I bring her in even though

she has energy? Also, she has had some loose stools. Help please

with any advice. Jane, mom to - SGA - 19# - 29 3/4 " - periactin

and prevacid.

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Hi Jane

I wasn't sure how old your little one was. I was thinking teeth.....both of

my kids reacted that way. I should have asked you. I'm so glad to hear

everything worked out for you all. Take care

Debby

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> Thank you all for the advice. The OJ did perk her up and then about an

hour later she ate - and well - yogurt, cereal, a bite of banana AND a few

bites of toast. Later, I found another tooth showing itself - my daughter

is almost 2 and has 2 - now almost 3 teeth. The rest of the day was fair

eating - but better than yesterday. I thought I was confident I would know

when to take her in - but this morning it was yes, then no, then " I don't

know " . So thanks for the input. She is doing well now - We will wake her

tonight and try to give her something. If another bad morning tomorow I

will bring her in to make certain there is not an underlying infection -

i.e. ear.

> Jane, mom to - 22 months SGA

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Jane,

I was out of town and I am so glad is doing better. It is so

scary when they become leathargic.

>

> Thank you all for the advice. The OJ did perk her up and then about

> an hour later she ate - and well - yogurt, cereal, a bite of banana

> AND a few bites of toast. Later, I found another tooth showing itself

> - my daughter is almost 2 and has 2 - now almost 3 teeth. The rest of

> the day was fair eating - but better than yesterday. I thought I was

> confident I would know when to take her in - but this morning it was

> yes, then no, then " I don't know " . So thanks for the input. She is

> doing well now - We will wake her tonight and try to give her

> something. If another bad morning tomorow I will bring her in to make

> certain there is not an underlying infection - i.e. ear.

> Jane, mom to - 22 months SGA

>

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After going to the convention and finding out that

Hailey's blood sugars could be dropping as well, I

called the nurse at the doctors office and asked her

about maybe getting keytone strips to keep a check on

Hailey. The nurse I spoke to that day made me feel

like such a fool when she screamed " keytone strips, I

haven't heard of anyone using them since the '80s and

that was in the hospital. I do have a blood glucose

machine, but I do not know how to go about they

keytone strips. I wouldn't know how to use them if I

had them either.

--- Brock wrote:

> Her blood sugars are OK because you are giving her

> the orange juice.

> You have to monitor her ketones to see if her body

> has used up her

> glycogen storage. I definitely have realized that

> we have to create

> an Emergency Treatment pamphlet.

>

> These kids have to be able to EAT foods -- it is the

> complex

> carbohydrates that they need, in order to keep up

> their glycogen

> storage. Keep testing her ketones AND her blood

> sugar levels. If she

> spills moderate ketones regularly, even if her BSL

> are normal, take

> her in for an IV. Jenn

>

>

> >

> > Need some advice. My daughter did not eat

> well yesterday -

> very little in fact. This morning she had moderate

> ketones and will

> not eat - BUT she is drinking orange juice - a full

> sippy cup so far.

> Her blood sugars are 85 - after the OJ - this a.m.

> she was lethargic -

> and now she has energy after the drink. Do I bring

> her in even though

> she has energy? Also, she has had some loose

> stools. Help please

> with any advice. Jane, mom to - SGA - 19# -

> 29 3/4 " - periactin

> and prevacid.

>

>

>

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