Guest guest Posted November 2, 2000 Report Share Posted November 2, 2000 " I reacted to the paint fumes by first getting angry at everybody and then getting depressed. My fibromyalgia paint level increased and I was having tremendous sinus pain. CFS symptoms all worse. My liver has been complaining loudly. " Dear V. Thanks for that story... now that you mention it, I got extremely ill after I painted only one wall of my bedroom. I have had CFS for nearly 13 years, and didn't even relate my relapse to the painting. I was sick for a month after I painted. Up to that point, I had been feeling pretty good (for me!) Had enough energy to tackle the painting job !!! I just thought that I was stressed becuz I had workers in the house laying some tile. I will check out the liverite and see how I react to it. I am really afraid to finish the bedroom because I have to sleep in there ! Thanks again KAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 In a message dated 11/04/2000 1:37:52 AM Central Standard Time, angelkat@... writes: << Dear V. Thanks for that story... now that you mention it, I got extremely ill after I painted only one wall of my bedroom. I have had CFS for nearly 13 years, and didn't even relate my relapse to the painting. I was sick for a month after I painted. Up to that point, I had been feeling pretty good (for me!) Had enough energy to tackle the painting job !!! I just thought that I was stressed becuz I had workers in the house laying some tile. I will check out the liverite and see how I react to it. I am really afraid to finish the bedroom because I have to sleep in there ! Thanks again KAT >> ________________ When I recarpeted part of my house this past summer, I felt extrememly bad and lethargic for several days.....then I remembered my old MCS problem. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 Erma, Adding vanilla may make the paint less obnoxious to yor smell, but that won't affect the chemicals one would still be breathing in. It is the chamicals that get into the bloodstream by breathing (and through the skin) that cause the problems, not the nature of the smell. But, I'm glad it works for you. ;-) jim Erma wrote: > > Everytime I have to paint I put vanilla in it.........this stops the smell > and doesn't make me sick.....does not discolor the paint. To a gallon I > would use at least 2 oz...pour and stir into the paint. > > Erma ----- carpe diem, carpe pucunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 This concerned me, as well. At least if you don't alter the smell, it will serve its purpose, causing you to do your best to avoid it. I remember when I was a child in Detroit, some bright spark decided to put something into the municipal buses to " make the exhaust smell like roses. " I guess the populace was supposed to stand there and take in big lungfuls of the stuff. Well, it still smelled like exhaust with an added sickly smell and was phased out quickly and quietly. Anyone with liver problems should be aware that their liver ends up filtering all this stuff. The worst is the perfumes and " air fresheners " because they're made from toxic chemicals and you just can't get away from them if you have to deal with the public, i.e. leave your house. Lana > Erma, > > Adding vanilla may make the paint less obnoxious to yor smell, but that > won't affect the chemicals one would still be breathing in. It is the > chamicals that get into the bloodstream by breathing (and through the > skin) that cause the problems, not the nature of the smell. > > But, I'm glad it works for you. ;-) > > jim > > Erma wrote: > > > > Everytime I have to paint I put vanilla in it.........this stops the smell > > and doesn't make me sick.....does not discolor the paint. To a gallon I > > would use at least 2 oz...pour and stir into the paint. > > > > Erma > ----- > carpe diem, carpe pucunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > Options for your child's healthcare! OneBody's Health Advisor Report > saves time, delivers quality information on new choices for wellness, > connects you with a Health Professional. Intro rate $9.95 till 11/30 > 1/10057/2/_/507288/_/973348992/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------_ -> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 If you put your request in writing and haven't paid the painter yet make sure to make it clear to him that you are upset that he didn't follow your instructions and that you won't be recommending him to others. S S <p>I'm so upset with myself. My son has been breathing in paint fumes <br> for a month. I asked my painter to buy the environmentally friendly <br> line and he said no problem. It didn't dawn on my with my busy life <br> and I don't smell very good, that he never bought the environmental <br> friendly/no fume paint. <br> <br> My son has been out of sorts for weeks. I introduced a few new <br> supplements along with a new physical therapy. I know its impossible <br> to pinpoint exactly, but please someone tell me the seriousness of the <br> paint fumes. I can't seem to find out information .. I have increased <br> his natural detoxing supplements ... I feel like the worst mother. I <br> know better ... my son had the DAN! protocol heavy metal testing done <br> and it clearly showed he's not an a good toxin excreter ... <br> <br> Kathy<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 >>I asked my painter to buy the environmentally friendly > line and he said no problem. Did you make this request in writing? Ask him to repaint, or withhold payment. >>It didn't dawn on my with my busy life > and I don't smell very good, that he never bought the environmental > friendly/no fume paint. How did you learn this? > My son has been out of sorts for weeks. I introduced a few new > supplements along with a new physical therapy. Could it be the new supplements, and not the paint fumes? >>I know its impossible > to pinpoint exactly, but please someone tell me the seriousness of the > paint fumes. Try adding or increasing taurine. It can be helpful for chemical sensitivity. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Kathy, You can only do your best. Keep at it. I just realized I'm giving my son whole foods creme soda in ALUMINUM cans, and wondering why his aluminum is so high in hair elements. I'm sure it was the vaccines and the aluminum extrusion plant nearby. We all make mistakes. The good mother notices and takes corrective actions immediately. You can't help it if your painter duped you. Next time trust noone and look at the supplies yourself. I don't think any paint out there legally for sale is very toxic. Lead was outlawed years ago. Unless it's wood curing stuff, I don't know that you have to worry much after the paint dries. For now, try keeping your child's bedroom window open a crack even in winter cold days. Good Luck, Farhin On 1/25/07, alexosmommy <kshear@...> wrote: > > I'm so upset with myself. My son has been breathing in paint fumes > for a month. I asked my painter to buy the environmentally friendly > line and he said no problem. It didn't dawn on my with my busy life > and I don't smell very good, that he never bought the environmental > friendly/no fume paint. > > My son has been out of sorts for weeks. I introduced a few new > supplements along with a new physical therapy. I know its impossible > to pinpoint exactly, but please someone tell me the seriousness of the > paint fumes. I can't seem to find out information .. I have increased > his natural detoxing supplements ... I feel like the worst mother. I > know better ... my son had the DAN! protocol heavy metal testing done > and it clearly showed he's not an a good toxin excreter ... > > Kathy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hi you can try to gogle dr ziems protocol. It pinpoints chem deotx. You can get an air filter with charcoal filter. You can reasearch carbon balnkets they will soak up fumes. You can also try painting over the toxic stuff with some water based paint ///////It should seal in some fo the fumes.....................I wouldn't let him sleep in there...................until you can get the VOC level down, I am sesitive to paint fumes and I suffer greatly when exposed.............Don't beat yourself up.....You are doing the best you can.........you should get relief from some of these ideas Love Jen alexosmommy <kshear@...> wrote: I'm so upset with myself. My son has been breathing in paint fumes for a month. I asked my painter to buy the environmentally friendly line and he said no problem. It didn't dawn on my with my busy life and I don't smell very good, that he never bought the environmental friendly/no fume paint. My son has been out of sorts for weeks. I introduced a few new supplements along with a new physical therapy. I know its impossible to pinpoint exactly, but please someone tell me the seriousness of the paint fumes. I can't seem to find out information .. I have increased his natural detoxing supplements ... I feel like the worst mother. I know better ... my son had the DAN! protocol heavy metal testing done and it clearly showed he's not an a good toxin excreter ... Kathy --------------------------------- Check out the all-new beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I've heard that an open bowl of vinegar will help soak up some paint fumes, but I think they recommend setting it out during the painting process so I don't know if it would help after the fact. S S <p>Hi<br> you can try to gogle dr ziems protocol. It pinpoints chem deotx. You can get an air filter with charcoal filter. You can reasearch carbon balnkets they will soak up fumes. You can also try painting over the toxic stuff with some water based paint ///////It should seal in some fo the fumes.......<wbr>.........<wbr>.....I wouldn't let him sleep in there.......<wbr>.........<wbr>...until you can get the VOC level down, I am sesitive to paint fumes and I suffer greatly when exposed.....<wbr>........Don'<wbr>t beat yourself up.....You are doing the best you can.........<wbr>you should get relief from some of these ideas Love Jen <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Open the windows and do not let him in the room much..it needs to air out. For the painter you needed to specify that you wanted NO VOC paint... I know in some older posts on here someone mentioned a coating that you can paint over the paint to stop it from outgassing fumes. But indeed you are right to be concerned. Many paints contain metals, and formaldahyde and a host of junk. At the best, you need to air out the room thouroughly and for a long while before he spends more time in it. Do you have the left over gallon to know which kind of paint it was? You might have some recourse with the painter...if it was preset that he was to purchase low odor, no odor or low VOC or no VOC paint and he did not. Otherwise, if you were not real clear on what you wanted...it was left to his decision. And most people have NO idea what safe paint is... > > I'm so upset with myself. My son has been breathing in paint fumes > for a month. I asked my painter to buy the environmentally friendly > line and he said no problem. It didn't dawn on my with my busy life > and I don't smell very good, that he never bought the environmental > friendly/no fume paint. > > My son has been out of sorts for weeks. I introduced a few new > supplements along with a new physical therapy. I know its impossible > to pinpoint exactly, but please someone tell me the seriousness of the > paint fumes. I can't seem to find out information .. I have increased > his natural detoxing supplements ... I feel like the worst mother. I > know better ... my son had the DAN! protocol heavy metal testing done > and it clearly showed he's not an a good toxin excreter ... > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Its possible he did not understand what you meant or was not sure so just did not ask. Obviously they should have asked but.... If anyone wants a better paint that does not have high VOC's like solvent paints ask for water based paints to be used. Phil > > I'm so upset with myself. My son has been breathing in paint fumes > for a month. I asked my painter to buy the environmentally friendly > line and he said no problem. It didn't dawn on my with my busy life > and I don't smell very good, that he never bought the environmental > friendly/no fume paint. > > My son has been out of sorts for weeks. I introduced a few new > supplements along with a new physical therapy. I know its impossible > to pinpoint exactly, but please someone tell me the seriousness of the > paint fumes. I can't seem to find out information .. I have increased > his natural detoxing supplements ... I feel like the worst mother. I > know better ... my son had the DAN! protocol heavy metal testing done > and it clearly showed he's not an a good toxin excreter ... > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 We just got our DOC band today. We were considering painting it, but ae concerned about the fumes. I bought folk art paint. Anyone with any insight into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I just used that on our's and by the time it dried (. Half an hourish) there was no smell that I noticed.AjaOn Jan 26, 2010, at 5:33 PM, " john_and_lincoln " <johnrd007@...> wrote: We just got our DOC band today. We were considering painting it, but ae concerned about the fumes. I bought folk art paint. Anyone with any insight into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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