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bad casting can make the cf worse.... btdt.

Re: AFO Bracing

Thanks guys for all of your support and suggestions. I am definitely

going to research more. Jaiden is otherwise a healthy child and is

developing normally and is a very active child. He started to be

cast at 3 weeks and he had serial cast for 6 weeks with little

improvement. It was very obvious that he was not cast properly for

several reasons. I believe because of his first cast that it

hindered and make his deformity worse. I think this is why Dr.

Frick believes he has neurogenic cf.

> Hi everyone,

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> My name is Nan and I am looking for some advice. I posted a

message on

> this site a few months back when my son was only 9 weeks old. I

> received wonderful advice. My son is now 6 months old and has had

the

> tenotomy done 4 weeks ago. He is scheduled to wear his cast for 1

> more week. At this time he will go in braces. His doctor is Dr.

> Frick, Md from Charlotte, NC. He has stated all along that

he

> felt like my son, Jaiden, had neurogenic clubfeet. Meaning that he

> will have to wear braces for the rest of his life. Is anyone

familiar

> with AFO bracing. I am a bit proplexed and overwhelmed with

everything

> that is going on. Dr. Frick says Jaiden's condition is very rare

> because outside of the fact he has clubfeet there are no other

> abnormalities that he can find that usually go along with

neurogenic

> clubfeet. Can anyone other any advice on the subject of neurogenic

> clubfeet. I feel like I am rambling and not really getting across

> what I am trying to say. I hope everyone understands what I am

asking.

> Your suggestion were so helpful before.

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> Thanks Alot

> Nan

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Thanks a lot for all of the insight you gave me. I am wondering

because Dr. Frick stated that he believed Jaiden has neurogenic

clubfeet, is this why he wanted him to go in AFO bracing. I know it

was mentioned that children with other problems other than clubfeet

this type of bracing my be chosen. Can anyone offer me an

explaination as to why this type of bracing would be used or give

places where I may go and look it up. Jaiden has been through a lot.

His first series of casting was done improperly and caused his

condition to be worse. I definitely do not want to do anything to put

him through the hurdle his about to overcome. You all have been so

helpful. I think God for this web cite everyday. If anyone can offer

any more help I will greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

Nan

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In many cases the AFO during the day and DBB at night when children have weaker

muscles that prevent them from learning to walk. Also, many children with spina

bifida and other muscular issues wear them because their muscles are tighter,

and so they are more prone to always relapsing because those muscles never

relax. I hope that makes sense. I would find out more info on why he wants

your son in the AFO, and what benefits he sees from it. I would also wonder

under what guidelines he is able to diagnose your son with neurogenic clubfoot.

So, start with collecting more information, but I would really want to know why

he doesn't want to at least start your son in the DBB 23 hours a day. This is

standard, and would do more good in holding correction than the AFO.

11/19/04

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Thanks a lot for all of the insight you gave me. I am wondering

because Dr. Frick stated that he believed Jaiden has neurogenic

clubfeet, is this why he wanted him to go in AFO bracing. I know it

was mentioned that children with other problems other than clubfeet

this type of bracing my be chosen. Can anyone offer me an

explaination as to why this type of bracing would be used or give

places where I may go and look it up. Jaiden has been through a lot.

His first series of casting was done improperly and caused his

condition to be worse. I definitely do not want to do anything to put

him through the hurdle his about to overcome. You all have been so

helpful. I think God for this web cite everyday. If anyone can offer

any more help I will greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

Nan

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Nan,

My understanding is that an AFO is usually used to provide stability,

and usually limits ankle side to side motion, is also usually used for

surgically corrected feet, not feet corrected by casting and a

tenotomy. That's why I have one for my clubfoot as an adult. I was

trying to google neurogenic clubfoot and AFO but didn't find a lot of

info that would help you. What I still don't understand is why Dr.

Frick thinks Jaiden has neurogenic CF if he doesn't have any other

neurological symptoms. In a previous post you said something about it

being because the bad casting made his foot worse. This is a common

problem, and I've never heard any connection between a foot getting

worse and neurogenic CF. Bad casts, slipping casts, can and do make

CF worse -- many feet that are considered " atypical " or " complex " are

actually caused by bad casting.

Also, is he still planning on having him sleep in the FAB, and use the

AFO for daytime? If an AFO only is used for a dynamic clubfoot -

where there is a neurological reason that the muscles/tendons are not

able to stay in the corrected position, the foot would turn back in

because the AFO wouldn't be able to hold the outward rotation. In

children with spina bifida for instance, AFO's are often used after

surgical correction to maintain a plantigrade foot. But Jaiden is

developing normally - have you had him evaluated by your local early

intervention people? And what does your pediatrician think? If no

one is seeing any neurological connection then I think he should be

treated with the regular FAB to maintain correction and if Dr. Frick

has another reason to put him in an AFO for the rest of the day that

might be fine. But in reality, the FAB is the only brace known to

hold a non-surgically corrrected foot.

Here's what I would do, ask Dr. Frick all of these questions, come

back and let us know. Also, once he gets out of casts take pictures

of his foot and send it to Dr. Ponseti (and send some to us too), tell

him everything that Dr. Frick has told you and ask him what you should

do. I would bet that Jaiden's feet are going to need the

Ponseti/ brace instead of the traditional open toed Markell

shoes. You can get a jump on this by talking to Dr. Frick now and

going ahead with ordering the P/M's now by contacting at

MDOthopaedics http://www.mdorthopaedics.com/ You can call him

directly at 1-800-PONSETI.

Hope this helps,

Mom to Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs brace 12hrs/day)

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> Thanks a lot for all of the insight you gave me. I am wondering

> because Dr. Frick stated that he believed Jaiden has neurogenic

> clubfeet, is this why he wanted him to go in AFO bracing. I know it

> was mentioned that children with other problems other than clubfeet

> this type of bracing my be chosen. Can anyone offer me an

> explaination as to why this type of bracing would be used or give

> places where I may go and look it up. Jaiden has been through a lot.

> His first series of casting was done improperly and caused his

> condition to be worse. I definitely do not want to do anything to put

> him through the hurdle his about to overcome. You all have been so

> helpful. I think God for this web cite everyday. If anyone can offer

> any more help I will greatly appreciate it.

>

> Thanks

> Nan

>

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Ooops!, that's 1-877-PONSETI (not 800).

> >

> >

> > Thanks a lot for all of the insight you gave me. I am wondering

> > because Dr. Frick stated that he believed Jaiden has neurogenic

> > clubfeet, is this why he wanted him to go in AFO bracing. I know it

> > was mentioned that children with other problems other than clubfeet

> > this type of bracing my be chosen. Can anyone offer me an

> > explaination as to why this type of bracing would be used or give

> > places where I may go and look it up. Jaiden has been through a

lot.

> > His first series of casting was done improperly and caused his

> > condition to be worse. I definitely do not want to do anything to

put

> > him through the hurdle his about to overcome. You all have been so

> > helpful. I think God for this web cite everyday. If anyone can

offer

> > any more help I will greatly appreciate it.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Nan

> >

>

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