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In a message dated 12/11/01 1:11:36 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Dr Herron is a very FINE looking man, and he is very

nice too. My family liked him also. After surgery he went and talked to all

6 of them who were waiting. I know Dr Gagner is the doctor of choice for

many on here, but Dr Herron trained under him and continues to work with him.

Sometimes Dr G assists with Dr Herron and I was hoping for that, but Dr Pomp

assisted, along with Dr Quinn. So I felt I was in very capable hands.

>>

Sheri: Actually as surgeons go at Mt. Sinai, I think Dr. Herron has a much

better bedside manner. I think he's the one who answers many of the

inquiries on the Mt. Sinai website and those who have had him as a surgeon

are really pleased with the aftercare, etc.

I think, and this is only an impression from those whom I've seen online,

that he is more apt to perform an open or convert to open than Gagner. I

haven't heard of many (if any?) cases, no matter how difficult (ie. previous

adhesions, etc.) where Gagner has converted to open (even with exploratory

second surgeries for leaks/blockages). This doesn't make him a bad surgeon

by ANY means -- I think he has a sterling reputation. I just think that he

*may not* be as totally keen or experienced with the lap DS as Gagner. I

think Gagner's life is laproscopic! LOL

So, there are drawbacks to Dr. G: First off, he no longer takes (most?)

insurance, at least for his consults (someone mentioned that the still

accepts insurance for the surgery, though). There is a considerably longer

wait to get a consult with him. He is a man of little words and may not be

as openly 'friendly' as other surgeons, so this may turn some people off.

One thing is for sure -- he is top in his field and I am glad I chose him.

:) Dr. Quinn assisted on my surgery and she is very personable, intelligent

and talented. She just started at the Mt. Sinai practice.

So, if one is 110 pct set on laparoscopic surgery no matter what, I think

that I would hedge my bets on Gagner. Not that Herron ALWAYS converts to

open or anything like that -- but I think the overall chances *might* be

greater than Dr. Gagner. I think they may have different conceptions of what

is 'safe' or where they draw the line when a problem arises during lap

surgery.... It definately is better to be safe than sorry and I'm SURE that

Dr. Herron has VALID reasons for converting if and when he does. One would

NOT want a leak, blockage or any other problem to occur just because a

surgeon wanted to stay laparoscopic even if he didn't feel totally

comfortable about it.

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 198 lbs/bmi 28/size sweet 16 but squeezin' into a 14! LOL

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Ahhhh, Theresa...my " bud " ...you always come through

for me!! Thanks, pal! I really appreciate your

consistent concern and intelligent responses! (guess

we Noo Yawkas gots ta stay togedder, right?

:::smiling:::

I'm so excited about the consult...I'm so scared about

the consult....I'm so nervous about the consult....I'm

so delighted about the consult...YOICKS!!!! AND HEAH

IYAM...AN ENGLISH TEACHA!!!!

LOL

Dr. Herron's Medical Assistant, Irene, faxed me the

Instruction Sheet for pre-consult stuff that I need to

do. I need to get an Upper endoscopy, nutritional and

psychological counseling and some blood tests. She

said that they " prefer " me to use their psychologist

(at $250 a pop!!!). Do you know if that's just a

business arrangement, or is there a sound reason for

that? My own business partner (I work out of his

office when I do career consultations), has a young

woman on staff who counsels folks considering WLS, so

he (my partner), is a psychologist fully versed in

WLS. I can't imagine they would not accept a report

written by him...whaddya think?

Anyway, thanks again for the post, and here's wishing

you, your family, and particularly your mom, health

and happiness forevah!!! :::grinning::: (hope Mom's

doing well!)

pre-op, 250/BMI 46, with a 1st consult date of 1/03

w/Dr. Herron

Scared and glad and nervous and happy and petrified

and excited...etc., etc., etc.

--- ruisha@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 12/11/01 1:11:36 PM,

> duodenalswitch writes:

>

> << Dr Herron is a very FINE looking man, and he is

> very

>

> nice too. My family liked him also. After surgery

> he went and talked to all

>

> 6 of them who were waiting. I know Dr Gagner is

> the doctor of choice for

>

> many on here, but Dr Herron trained under him and

> continues to work with him.

>

> Sometimes Dr G assists with Dr Herron and I was

> hoping for that, but Dr Pomp

>

> assisted, along with Dr Quinn. So I felt I was in

> very capable hands.

>

> >>

>

> Sheri: Actually as surgeons go at Mt. Sinai, I

> think Dr. Herron has a much

> better bedside manner. I think he's the one who

> answers many of the

> inquiries on the Mt. Sinai website and those who

> have had him as a surgeon

> are really pleased with the aftercare, etc.

>

> I think, and this is only an impression from those

> whom I've seen online,

> that he is more apt to perform an open or convert to

> open than Gagner. I

> haven't heard of many (if any?) cases, no matter how

> difficult (ie. previous

> adhesions, etc.) where Gagner has converted to open

> (even with exploratory

> second surgeries for leaks/blockages). This doesn't

> make him a bad surgeon

> by ANY means -- I think he has a sterling

> reputation. I just think that he

> *may not* be as totally keen or experienced with the

> lap DS as Gagner. I

> think Gagner's life is laproscopic! LOL

>

> So, there are drawbacks to Dr. G: First off, he no

> longer takes (most?)

> insurance, at least for his consults (someone

> mentioned that the still

> accepts insurance for the surgery, though). There

> is a considerably longer

> wait to get a consult with him. He is a man of

> little words and may not be

> as openly 'friendly' as other surgeons, so this may

> turn some people off.

> One thing is for sure -- he is top in his field and

> I am glad I chose him.

> :) Dr. Quinn assisted on my surgery and she is very

> personable, intelligent

> and talented. She just started at the Mt. Sinai

> practice.

>

> So, if one is 110 pct set on laparoscopic surgery no

> matter what, I think

> that I would hedge my bets on Gagner. Not that

> Herron ALWAYS converts to

> open or anything like that -- but I think the

> overall chances *might* be

> greater than Dr. Gagner. I think they may have

> different conceptions of what

> is 'safe' or where they draw the line when a problem

> arises during lap

> surgery.... It definately is better to be safe than

> sorry and I'm SURE that

> Dr. Herron has VALID reasons for converting if and

> when he does. One would

> NOT want a leak, blockage or any other problem to

> occur just because a

> surgeon wanted to stay laparoscopic even if he

> didn't feel totally

> comfortable about it.

>

> all the best,

>

> lap ds with gallbladder removal

> January 25, 2001

> Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

>

> 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

>

> preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

> now: 198 lbs/bmi 28/size sweet 16 but squeezin'

> into a 14! LOL

>

>

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>

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In a message dated 12/11/01 7:27:49 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ruisha@...

writes:

<< I'm SURE that

Dr. Herron has VALID reasons for converting >>

,

I am sure Dr Herron had valid reasons for converting also. I just either

don't remember if he told me why, or was too sick to care why immediately

post-op. :)

Now that I am feeling better I am more curious. And his bedside manner

definitely is nice. <G> Dr Quinn is a very meticulous doctor, and my first

leak test showed a blockage in my stomach - possibly a blood clot, and she

put me through 2 more tests just to be sure everything was working okay. Now

I am grateful for that, but not at that time!! Time and feeling better has a

way of changing my perspective about a few things.

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