Re: Long term potentials

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In a message dated 11/18/01 6:01:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

duodenalswitch writes:

<< So where are these patients? Is their no data,

because few people live beyond the 10-15-20 years? Where is

everyone?? >>

I think its because the DS started in 1988, so there are no 20 year people.

From what I have read on the list, there is a woman in Bowling Green who had

the DS 14 years ago (I think, or 15) who is doing great and shows up at Dr.

Hess' informational meetings. I have not met her, but others have commented

on how well she is doing.

Remember, medical science progresses as time goes on and what was done 20

years ago in wls has been improved upon greatly.

Carole

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In a message dated 11/18/01 8:50:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

duodenalswitch writes:

<< In my experience, some bariatric practices (DS, RNY, VBG or

otherwise) do not seem as concerned as I would like when it comes to

life-long followup among their patients. I can see how this would be

difficult, but it is still very important.

>>

- I think that there is much follow up with DS surgeons. As far as I

know, they require their patients to have their blood work done peridically

and want to know the stats. I think this is true of all of them, if I am

correct. I do know that Dr. Hess and Oakley made a strong point of wanting

to know about their patients, since they are keeping track of them

(presumably for studies or for their own knowledge) - they want to know even

if you move, where you move and who your new Dr. etc. is.

I think RNY surgeons tend to not want to be bothered with their patients once

the surgery is done. At least that is what I have read on other lists, that

the surgeons office didn't even want to answer questions once the surgery was

done and the surgeon was paid....as he was on to other new patients to make

more money.

But I do think the DS surgeons are *very* involved with their patients

post-op.

Carole

[Guest guest]

> There is a 21-year study on the BPD (DS is a modification of the

> original BPD) done by Scopinaro. Dr. Hess published a 10-year

> followup. Dr. Marceau has patients going back to 1986, I believe.

So what were the results of these studies?

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>

> > There is a 21-year study on the BPD (DS is a modification of the

> > original BPD) done by Scopinaro. Dr. Hess published a 10-year

> > followup. Dr. Marceau has patients going back to 1986, I believe.

>

> So what were the results of these studies?

Go to the CLINICAL DATA page of the DS website and follow the links from

that page to some of the studies:

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/Clinical_Data/clinical_data.html

M.

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>etc. Given that, I'll take the DS risk.

>

>~alyssa

>bmi: 45

>surgery date: 12/20/01

Alyssa,

What do you mean the DS risk? Speaking long term. I am now collecting

info on the long term. Of course, since we only go back 15 years or so . .

.. I feel with no surgery I won't be alive in 15 years or won't want to

be.

i

PS Don't forget you got me in this you got to keep me going. LOL