Day 5

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<< Hello and everyone:

Well today was not one of my better days, this morning I was very tired.

I took the copper 6mg ---trace minerals 10 drops --- Super stress mega B

complex 50mg with Vitamin C - 1000mg -- plus extra B1 -- 100mg ---- B2 -

100mg.

Biotin - 1000 mcg - Zinc 40mg (nervous to take 50) - Calcium 1000mg -

Magnesium - 1000mg. I have all the other supplements but really didn't

feel well enough to take them. Yes indeed, today was not my best, I trust

tomorrow will be a better one. Sheri >>

Hi Sheri,

I think you will be better off not taking any zinc at all. By avoiding

zinc at the beginning you can allow the copper to build up faster. Zinc

stimulates the thyroid and right now you don't need that. When your heart

rate slows down to normal, then you could try a little bit, but no where near

40 mg. If you stop the zinc you should feel noticeably better in 3-6 days.

Let me know what happens.

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I'm glad you are seeing some good stuff, Beth.Can't help with the other

stuff as I'm not that knowledgeable about the enzymes but good luck.

Julea )

The first step towards success is taken when you refuse to be a captive of

the environment in which you first found yourself.

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> I am ready to see the good poops return. Should I stay at this

level until they do? When do I bump up the Pep and start the No

Fenol?

I would bump the Pep now, wait a week, then add No-Fenol. The loose

bm might be the phenol foods which now are needing better digestion.

It also might be that there are foods your child won't tolerate, even

with enzymes. If you think that might be the case, rotate foods even

while using enzymes, to figure out which foods you would still need to

remove.

http://www.danasview.net/rotation.htm

>

> Why does a child who has been on the diet a year and a half have

these troubles?

Because it is not a gluten/casein problem.

>> I just don't understand that. Isn't Pep for the

gluten and casein? He hasn't had that for sooo long. He does have

yeast, but we are working on that too. I guess I am seeing die off.

It can also be that.

It can also be too much or not enough of certain supplements.

Dana

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look at you go - another gold star

Day 5

Hi,

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>>I ate a

couple of tiny bites of chicken and tasted the spicy Thai peanut sauce I was

making for 's dinner so I entered an ounce of chicken,

Ya gotta watch out for those nibbles when cooking! They add up fast,

especially when it's a tasty dish. I once "tasted" a whole box of mac

and cheese one time. :-[

>and I ended up with

1945 calories, 30% fat, 9% saturated, 51% carbs, 19% protein, 28 grams of

fiber. Not too shabby.

> Well, it's a school day for Vonn too but

it's pretty easy to get her to preschool by 9:30.

I was surprised Henry got right up this morning when I woke him at 5am.

I guess he's all excited about starting the new semester, and in

today's microprocessors lab they're building their own computers to use

for the semester. I'll find out around 4:30 if he needs me to pick him

up with it or if they'll have a place to store them in the lab. Gosh,

how I wish that guy would drive!

Sue in NJ

13º wind-chill 1º

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From: " Sue in NJ " <susang@...>

> I was surprised Henry got right up this morning when I woke him at 5am. I

guess he's all excited about starting the new semester, and in today's

microprocessors lab they're building their own computers to use for the

semester.

That sounds like fun.

> 13º wind-chill 1º

Brrrrr.......... It's up to a balmy 46 here in Houston. If it warms up a

bit more I'll pick Lynn up from school by bike. It's quite a load pulling

an 8 year old and a 4 year old in the bike trailer so it's a good work out.

I do that sometimes if it's too cold for Lynn to ride in the morning but

nice by afternoon. Usually I just pull Vonn in the trailer which is a piece

of cake. Hmmmm..... bad saying on this list.... how about piece of fat

free, sugar free, carb free cake?

Gotta stop chatting and get to work!

Ann

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> Stayed on plan.

<<<<<<<<<

Cherilyn:

A huge accomplishment, one which I have not achieved since being in

this group!

Congratulations!

Faye

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Sounds like you're doing great!

Ann

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Ann,

I would go for the evaluation anyways. They can't make you take the medications. I hate when doctor's push medications because they are getting paid highly to prescribe them. Hang in there things will get better. maryannanderic <maryannanderic@...> wrote:

Hi,I consumed 1544 calories today. By 8pm I had only consumed about 500calories which isn't good! Dh and I went to the marriage counselor thismorning and then went out to lunch at a nice seafood place. I *really*wanted to stay on plan so I got the jumbo shrimp cocktail for $10.75. Whenit came it had 5 shrimp. Sheesh. That's over 2 bucks per shrimp! Theshrimp were big and good but still. According to fitday my whole lunch was69 calories in shrimp and 31 in cocktail sauce. 100 calorie lunch is a bitlow. I think those shrimp had more than 69 calories total but I can't findmy calorie book right now.This afternoon I went to a volunteer sign up tea at the elementary schooland I avoided all the cookies. I didn't even go back to the snack tables.I signed up to help at

Family Fun Night which is always fun.Talking to the psychologist with was frustrating. She said I need togo to a psychiatrist to get evaluated for depression meds and anxiety.Sheesh. 's the one who's depressed! as well as bitter, angry andnegative. I felt the whole thing was rather unfair. I don't mind going toa psychiatrist though to talk about PMS and ADD. I know I was depressedfrom last fall to spring but I really don't think I am right now. sayshe doesn't really want to get divorced which is a relief. Men! Run away!Oh well. At least she gave us some suggestions for getting the house undercontrol and improving our communication. Ann

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From: " Neal " <walking2health@...>

> I would go for the evaluation anyways. They can't make you take the

medications. I hate when doctor's push medications

I'm going to a psychiatrist on Monday. We have good insurance so it can't

hurt. I'd like to get some Zoloft for PMS anyways. Better living through

chemistry. Getting regular exercise should help the PMS too.

On Sept. 9 I'm having the sleep study done since insurance pays for it.

This is my window to take care of myself since the kids are in school and

I'm not working yet. I need to schedule well woman exam and mammogram.

BLECH! I also need to get my teeth cleaned.

I got my stitches out today. Yea! It looks kinda yucky but feels so much

better without the stitches. I feel like I can almost smile normally again.

A bit tight where the incision was but not too bad.

Dh and I go back to the marriage counselor in 2 weeks.

I'm sure the insurance company isn't going to be happy about all this but

it's nice to focus on my health and well being for a change. We need to

take care of ourselves!

Ann

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Ann,

Good for you - take care of yourself!

> I'm sure the insurance company isn't going to

> be happy about all this but

> it's nice to focus on my health and well being

> for a change. We need to

> take care of ourselves!

>

> Ann

>

>

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maryannanderic <maryannanderic@...> wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: " Neal" <walking2health@...>> I would go for the evaluation anyways. They can't make you take themedications. I hate when doctor's push medicationsI'm going to a psychiatrist on Monday. We have good insurance so it can'thurt. I'd like to get some Zoloft for PMS anyways. Better living throughchemistry. Getting regular exercise should help the PMS too.

I'm so glad that you have insurance. Going to any medical office without it is a pain and expensive. I'm now paying off $1600.00 for my emergency hospital food poisoning attack. When I had insurance something like that would cost me $45On Sept. 9 I'm having the sleep study done since insurance pays for it.This is my window to take care of myself since the kids are in school andI'm not working yet. I need to schedule well woman exam and mammogram.BLECH! I also need to get my teeth cleaned.I got my stitches out today. Yea! It looks kinda yucky but feels so muchbetter without the stitches. I feel like I can almost smile normally again. A bit tight where the incision was but not too bad.

I would think that they would give you a salve to put on it to keep it moist. I'm sure that it will loosen up later and you'll feel better.Dh and I go back to the marriage counselor in 2 weeks.I'm sure the insurance company isn't going to be happy about all this butit's nice to focus on my health and well being for a change. We need totake care of ourselves!

That's what health insurance is for! I wouldn't feel bad for it. Medical costs are just way too high, I can understand understand some of it but they charge an arm and a leg for simple stuff.

Ann

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Hang in there Ann!

If its working, counseling is rarely easy or comfortable and all

those platitudes about having to " go through to get out " have some

truth to them. You've done good work for yourself and your husband

this week. My 2 cents say go for the evaluation. They can't make you

do anything you don't want to so if the doctor is way off base there

is still no harm done and you will know that you have really

explored every avenue. You have really accomplished a lot this week

in taking care of yourself. Good work!

christine

> Hi,

>

> I consumed 1544 calories today. By 8pm I had only consumed about

500

> calories which isn't good! Dh and I went to the marriage

counselor this

> morning and then went out to lunch at a nice seafood place. I

*really*

> wanted to stay on plan so I got the jumbo shrimp cocktail for

$10.75. When

> it came it had 5 shrimp. Sheesh. That's over 2 bucks per

shrimp! The

> shrimp were big and good but still. According to fitday my whole

lunch was

> 69 calories in shrimp and 31 in cocktail sauce. 100 calorie lunch

is a bit

> low. I think those shrimp had more than 69 calories total but I

can't find

> my calorie book right now.

>

> This afternoon I went to a volunteer sign up tea at the elementary

school

> and I avoided all the cookies. I didn't even go back to the snack

tables.

> I signed up to help at Family Fun Night which is always fun.

>

> Talking to the psychologist with was frustrating. She said I

need to

> go to a psychiatrist to get evaluated for depression meds and

anxiety.

> Sheesh. 's the one who's depressed! as well as bitter, angry

and

> negative. I felt the whole thing was rather unfair. I don't mind

going to

> a psychiatrist though to talk about PMS and ADD. I know I was

depressed

> from last fall to spring but I really don't think I am right now.

says

> he doesn't really want to get divorced which is a relief. Men!

Run away!

>

> Oh well. At least she gave us some suggestions for getting the

house under

> control and improving our communication.

>

> Ann

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----- Original Message -----

From: " catholicgirlinoregon " <murraych@...>

> truth to them. You've done good work for yourself and your husband

> this week.

Thanks for your support.

Ann

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Try some long slow walks and lots of water. That will help to work out

and flush out the anesthetic.

Matt

wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am still feeling

> quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these feelings would of

> passed by now

> Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear, curiously I have

> had no pain up until now.

> Hope this finds you all well

> -

>

>

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Hi Matt,

I will try that. I thought that it was probably the anesthetic as well.

Thanks,

.

Matt Marsteller wrote:

>

> Try some long slow walks and lots of water. That will help to work out

> and flush out the anesthetic.

>

> Matt

>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am still feeling

> > quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these feelings would of

> > passed by now

> > Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear, curiously I have

> > had no pain up until now.

> > Hope this finds you all well

> > -

> >

> >

>

> --

>

>

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My general practitioner suggested 8 ounces of water for every hour that

I was awake to get me past the dehydration caused by surgery. If you're

dehydrated, I think you'll feel better in four to six hours. You'd be

surprised how crappy, weak, and sleepy you'll feel when you're

dehydrated. After a couple of days you can probably ease up on the

water a bit, but I guess it's actually quite good for us.

Matt

wrote:

>

> Hi Matt,

> I will try that. I thought that it was probably the anesthetic as well.

> Thanks,

> .

> Matt Marsteller wrote:

> >

> > Try some long slow walks and lots of water. That will help to work out

> > and flush out the anesthetic.

> >

> > Matt

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am still

> feeling

> > > quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these feelings

> would of

> > > passed by now

> > > Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear, curiously I

> have

> > > had no pain up until now.

> > > Hope this finds you all well

> > > -

> > >

> > >

> >

> > --

> >

> >

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I w just hopng that I would feel better by now. Obviously I

underestimated it wspecially when I was told that it was day surgery.

Matt Marsteller wrote:

>

> My general practitioner suggested 8 ounces of water for every hour that

> I was awake to get me past the dehydration caused by surgery. If you're

> dehydrated, I think you'll feel better in four to six hours. You'd be

> surprised how crappy, weak, and sleepy you'll feel when you're

> dehydrated. After a couple of days you can probably ease up on the

> water a bit, but I guess it's actually quite good for us.

>

> Matt

>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Matt,

> > I will try that. I thought that it was probably the anesthetic as well.

> > Thanks,

> > .

> > Matt Marsteller wrote:

> > >

> > > Try some long slow walks and lots of water. That will help to work out

> > > and flush out the anesthetic.

> > >

> > > Matt

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > > Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am still

> > feeling

> > > > quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these feelings

> > would of

> > > > passed by now

> > > > Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear, curiously I

> > have

> > > > had no pain up until now.

> > > > Hope this finds you all well

> > > > -

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> > >

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Hang in there, it will get better.

It is a good idea drinking enough water, but even if I did it took

some time before my dizziness got better. I was very dizzy the first

week and then I slowly felt improvement day by day. Now it is 7 weeks

and two days since my surgery and I am not feeling much dizziness

anymore. I did have a lot of problems with being dizzy before the

surgery, too. And now I am better than I was before the surgery.

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Hi , I'm Joanne and I'm on day 4 since my surgery, its good to

have someone else in a similar boat...although thats what I love about

this group becuse it dosnt matter how long ago each person had their

surgery they can all relate and empathize and I SO appreciate it. So

you havent had much pain, but a lot of dizziness? Do you know exactly

what they removed? I'm the opposite, there has been a lot of pain but

very little vertigo. Out of nowhere today I have a metal taste in my

mouth. Does that make sense to have taste issues a few days after

surgery? I didnt notice it there until now. I know what you mean about

the drowsy, but I'm assuming its from the painkillers. , does

your head feel really heavy like you are wearing weights on it? My neck

feels exhusted from holding my head up.Please let me know more with how

you are doing.

White light your way,

:)Joanne

>

> Hi all,

> Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am still

feeling

> quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these feelings would

of

> passed by now

> Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear, curiously I

have

> had no pain up until now.

> Hope this finds you all well

> -

>

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Thanks Matt, I will try the water too, I wasnt thinking dehydration.

On a little more personal note, is it normal not to go to

the " bathroom " for 5 days after surgery? I'm not sure if I should

take something mild or not. I was very sick after the anesthitic and

vommited quite a few times so I'm thinking maybe there just isnt

anything much to eliminate.Any suggestions?

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > > Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am

still

> > feeling

> > > > quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these

feelings

> > would of

> > > > passed by now

> > > > Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear,

curiously I

> > have

> > > > had no pain up until now.

> > > > Hope this finds you all well

> > > > -

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> > >

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> >

> > Hi all,

> > Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am still

> feeling

> > quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these feelings would

> of

> > passed by now

> > Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear, curiously I

> have

> > had no pain up until now.

> > Hope this finds you all well

> > -

> >

>

Hi

I had the metallic taste after surgery. Just before I had my 2nd

c'toma in my other ear (don't ever ask if you are likely to get it in

your other ear!) I had the worst ear infection I've ever had. I had to

keep visiting the hospital to get my ears cleaned out otherwise the

pressure caused so much pain. This infection wiped out my taste buds

completely. I can't remember when I finally got my taste back, it just

came back slowly but it was a good month or two after the surgery. But

I did have the metallic taste which was far better than the clicking I

got after the first surgery on the other ear!

Hang in there, it does get better.

Louise

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I am the mom of two daughters that had cholesteatomas. Just wanted to say that your doctor should

have perscribed you something to take with your pain medication to keep you from getting constipated.

The pain medication will cause constipation. I would call your doctor and ask him about it.

Re: Day 5

Thanks Matt, I will try the water too, I wasnt thinking dehydration. On a little more personal note, is it normal not to go to the "bathroom" for 5 days after surgery? I'm not sure if I should take something mild or not. I was very sick after the anesthitic and vommited quite a few times so I'm thinking maybe there just isnt anything much to eliminate.Any suggestions?> > > >> > > > Hi all,> > > > Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am still > > feeling> > > > quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these feelings > > would of> > > > passed by now

> > > > Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear, curiously I > > have> > > > had no pain up until now.> > > > Hope this finds you all well> > > > -> > > >> > > >> > >> > > --> > >> > >

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Oh that's plenty normal! Ask your doc if it would be okay to take a

mild laxative like Senekot (spelling?). That got the ol' pipes flowing

again and you really only need a dose or two. It was actually more

scary for me after my recent hernia surgery (that was local

anesthetic). Talk about your white light ... I saw some weird blue ones

arranged in some kind of geometric pattern. I never even felt the

surgery on my stomach. So strange!

joannelpo121 wrote:

>

> Thanks Matt, I will try the water too, I wasnt thinking dehydration.

> On a little more personal note, is it normal not to go to

> the " bathroom " for 5 days after surgery? I'm not sure if I should

> take something mild or not. I was very sick after the anesthitic and

> vommited quite a few times so I'm thinking maybe there just isnt

> anything much to eliminate.Any suggestions?

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > Well it has been 5 days since I had my operation and I am

> still

> > > feeling

> > > > > quite drowsy and dizzy. I would of thought that these

> feelings

> > > would of

> > > > > passed by now

> > > > > Only today have I begun getting slight pain in my ear,

> curiously I

> > > have

> > > > > had no pain up until now.

> > > > > Hope this finds you all well

> > > > > -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Joanne,

I have had hardly any pain at all in all honesty, just dizziness and

really tired. I have spent the last 6 days in bed most of the time. As

soon as I am up for around an hour I am buggered, dizzy and need to sleep.

I am not taking painkillers, my pain (luckily) isn't that bad.

My c-toma was in the external canal. I was fortunate that the surgery

was performed entirely through the canal, hence the reason I thought I

would be immediately better LOL.

My head does also feel like I am wearing weights on it, it feels like

someone put two dumbells on it!

Hope you feel better soon,

.

joannelpo121 wrote:

>

> Hi , I'm Joanne and I'm on day 4 since my surgery, its good to

> have someone else in a similar boat...although thats what I love about

> this group becuse it dosnt matter how long ago each person had their

> surgery they can all relate and empathize and I SO appreciate it. So

> you havent had much pain, but a lot of dizziness? Do you know exactly

> what they removed? I'm the opposite, there has been a lot of pain but

> very little vertigo. Out of nowhere today I have a metal taste in my

> mouth. Does that make sense to have taste issues a few days after

> surgery? I didnt notice it there until now. I know what you mean about

> the drowsy, but I'm assuming its from the painkillers. , does

> your head feel really heavy like you are wearing weights on it? My neck

> feels exhusted from holding my head up.Please let me know more with how

> you are doing.

> White light your way,

> :)Joanne

>