gh needle choices

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Hi all,

Sorry I have not posted for quite a while, every time I think I can

help by replying there is already a multitude of great advise offered

up. So I thought I'd take advantage of it. Grant started gh this

week, we were very prepared and so far has gone fine. When we got the

prescription from Dr. H she gave us a syringe holder, you have to draw

the gh into a syringe, load it in the holder and administer it from

there. The rep from Lilly gave us a pen which would be much more

convenient to use. My question is: is there a good reason to use the

syringe or not to use the pen? His dose is 0.36ml or 36 units. I was

somewhat surprised that Dr. H did not give us the pen. Any thoughs.

Andy, Dad to Grant 4.5 yo RSS

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Andy,

In addition to being more accurate, the advantage to using the syringe

and the Inject-ease is that it hurts less. Max has used both the

Inject-ease and the pen on himself. He always complained about the

pen, saying that the needle hurt more and the shot took too long.

When we had to go back to using the syringe because of dosing

increases, he was much happier. He does not have to look at the

needle and the shot is much quicker, therefore less painful.

Jodi Z

[Guest guest]

Maybe I need to try this Inject-ease. I changed to the pen because the needles

were smaller than the syringe I used before and I didn't have to look at the

needle (it has a shield). WIth the syringe, I got nervous seeing the needle

and my hand shook and Tim has a scar on each leg to prove it (sigh, that's one

reason to look forward to leg hair in the future!). But it sounds like the

shield on the Inject-ease helps? Tim is complaining about the pain and length

of time on the pen, although that always worsens as the doseage goes up for the

same size cartridge and gets better when he goes to a bigger cartridge and can

use fewer clicks.

Inga

At 11:31 PM 6/23/2005 +0000, you wrote:

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> Andy,

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> In addition to being more accurate, the advantage to using the syringe

> and the Inject-ease is that it hurts less. Max has used both the

> Inject-ease and the pen on himself. He always complained about the

> pen, saying that the needle hurt more and the shot took too long.

> When we had to go back to using the syringe because of dosing

> increases, he was much happier. He does not have to look at the

> needle and the shot is much quicker, therefore less painful.

>

> Jodi Z

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[Guest guest]

Hi Andy,

Dr. H prescribed my son's gh at the convention last year. She also

put us on the syringe and inject ease. Coby is on Humatrope 0.3ml/30

units. We used the syringe for about 7 months and then I decided to

try the pen. Coby and I do much better with the pen. It is so much

easier and more convienient for me and Coby does not fuss as much with

the pen. He is on a small dose so it only takes me about 5 seconds to

give him his shot, so we will see how it proceedes in the future.

We'll also see what Dr. H has to say to me for switching methods at

the convention..hehehe

le, mom to:

Shye 10, Brock 8, and Coby (rss) & Carlee 2 yr old twin terrors!

[Guest guest]

There is a very good reason and I hope I can explain it. The quantity

of 36 units (doesn't say what the actual dose is, as it depends on the

mg and the dilutant) but it the dose is probably quite small. Anyway,

when the children are still young and gaining weight often, the dosage

for GH has to be equalized everytime they gain weight. So the dose

adjustments can be quite tiny - for example, let's say the dose

was .31mg/kg/week, which meant that he was getting 36 units (just

making guesses here). If he gained 2 pounds, maybe in order to keep

the dose at .31mg/kg/wek he would now need 37 units. Imagine doing

that on a pen, where you can only make " clicks " and the dose only

increases by let's say .1mg/kg. Can't recall the specifics.

But basically, in a nutshell, using a syringe allows the dose amounts

to be increased at very small amounts. For older children, teenagers,

let's say, where dosage increases are much larger because the children

are bigger, pens can become valuable, also because the amount of GH is

greater in terms of volume, too.

Our daughter used a syringe and vial for the first 4 years.

Last year she switched to the pen, but we only use the pen VIAL (as it

provides a stronger amount of GH for less liquid, since she requires

more GH now as she is bigger) and we use a regular syringe to draw the

GH out of the pen's vial. We throw the other stuff away.

Hope this explains it well enough!

> Hi all,

>

> Sorry I have not posted for quite a while, every time I think I can

> help by replying there is already a multitude of great advise offered

> up. So I thought I'd take advantage of it. Grant started gh this

> week, we were very prepared and so far has gone fine. When we got

the

> prescription from Dr. H she gave us a syringe holder, you have to

draw

> the gh into a syringe, load it in the holder and administer it from

> there. The rep from Lilly gave us a pen which would be much more

> convenient to use. My question is: is there a good reason to use the

> syringe or not to use the pen? His dose is 0.36ml or 36 units. I

was

> somewhat surprised that Dr. H did not give us the pen. Any thoughs.

> Andy, Dad to Grant 4.5 yo RSS