help please

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Hi Randi,

I'm chelating my almost 8yr old autistic son since a year. We still

have a long road ahead, but he is definetely better than he was before

chelating. We are doing 12.5 mg each of ALA and DMSA for him. After

all the research I have done, the only hope I have for his recovery(if

at all possible) is chelation.

IMHO its never too late to start chelation. I'm chelating myself and

some of my issues like sciatica are gone in just 6 months of

chelation.

Madhuri

>

> I am just starting up again and would like to know the 3day on 5day

off

> he is 8 years old. first i would love to know anyone out there that

has

> older childern.

> he is 8 and weights 62 pounds would like to start with dmsa for 2

weeks

> than add ala. I know they are both every for hours just don't know

how

> much to give of dmsa and ala when I start.

> AM I TO LATE

> thanks any info would be great. I would love to know someone on this

> list that have older children

> randi

>

[Guest guest]

You are definitely not too late. I am chelating my 8 yr old, and

have been for a little over a year. The improvements have been

amazing! My ds weighs 50 lbs., and I started him on 12.5 mg DMSA and

12.5 mg ALA. He had not had any recent vaccines or other mercury

exposure, so we did ALA from the start. I probably should have

started a little lower and ramped it up, but I had heard so much

about treating them before they were 5 or 6 that I was afraid it was

too late for him. Luckily, I hit on the right dose for him. He did

fine on that dose, but when I tried to up it to 18.75, he started

complaining about headaches, so we went back to the 12.5. We dosed

both at the same time for about 6 months, then went to ALA only.

Now, we do DMSA/ALA for a few rounds, then ALA only for a few

rounds. He had elevated lead on his hair test, not too bad, but

enough that I wanted to make sure to get that out also. If you are

dosing ALA, dosing should be done every 3 hours during the day and

every 4 hours at night.

HTH

Carmen

> I am just starting up again and would like to know the 3day on 5day

off

> he is 8 years old. first i would love to know anyone out there that

has

> older childern.

> he is 8 and weights 62 pounds would like to start with dmsa for 2

weeks

> than add ala. I know they are both every for hours just don't know

how

> much to give of dmsa and ala when I start.

> AM I TO LATE

> thanks any info would be great. I would love to know someone on

this

> list that have older children

> randi

>

[Guest guest]

Randi,

My son is 27. We started when he was 20. It is never too late.

Barb

[ ] HELP Please

I am just starting up again and would like to know the 3day on 5day off

he is 8 years old. first i would love to know anyone out there that has

older childern.

he is 8 and weights 62 pounds would like to start with dmsa for 2 weeks

than add ala. I know they are both every for hours just don't know how

much to give of dmsa and ala when I start.

AM I TO LATE

thanks any info would be great. I would love to know someone on this

list that have older children

randi

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[Guest guest]

Please read our files section. It will tell you all you need to know

to chelate your child. After you read it all..it will take some

time..we can help with any further question. Also, check the older

posts too.

>

> can anone please tell me where i can do chealation on mt son i am from

> montreal canada i am interested my son is 4 and half thanks .sylvie

>

[Guest guest]

Have you been to the Generation Rescue site? You can search for a Rescue

Angel in your area. www.generationrescue.org

<http://www.generationrescue.org/>

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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Subject: [ ] help please

can anone please tell me where i can do chealation on mt son i am from

montreal canada i am interested my son is 4 and half thanks .sylvie

[Guest guest]

I have an excellent specialist in Lyme disease that has helped me tremendously.

He uses both traditional and non-traditional methods and he is just excellent.

He is located near Bethesda, land. You did not give a clue where you were

looking. So if you want his name write back.

From: Mindy Hellman <mindysrq@...>

Date: 2008/06/25 Wed PM 09:55:21 CDT

Subject: [ ] help please

Hi

 

If I wanted to know who is the " BEST " lyme literate doctor in the US who is

familiar with Bartonella, lyme co-infections,  herbs, Samento and

Cumanda, rife machines, Fry labs, Igenex, herx preventing,  oral  or IV 

antibiotics who would it be? The information here is fabulous and I trust the

suggestions I would get. (We have already tried practitioner's on a lyme list

who " said " they were lyme literate.)

 My daughter is one state and I'm in another. 

 I'm trying to get my daughter to start a treatment  and I need a good

practitioner because my daughter is starting to turn me off. 

She needs to start treatment and too many things are going on in her young life

that is keeping her from thinking clearly. 

 

PLEASE  " only " respond if you know of such a physician..

 

Please e-mail me personally at

 

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Sincere thanks!!! Mindy 

[Guest guest]

> I have a 10 year old Aspie Son that has decided that it is too much

> work to walk to the bathroom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I am not sure what to tell you but have you had him try cleaning it up

as it might make him see that its just easier to go use the potty than

the corner????

How about a sticker or something everytime that he DOES use the

bathroom and after he has earned so many than he gets a special treat

of his choicing (but you can give him a list of choices that YOU

approve of)???

Good Luck and my heart goes out to you.

Marj

[Guest guest]

Maybe going back to the old " potty training " routine would help. I

think that it would get pretty old for him if his mother is asking him

to try and go potty every 20 minutes?

[Guest guest]

That is not a bad idea.

-- In , " Missy " <mfilas76@...> wrote:

>

> Maybe going back to the old " potty training " routine would help. I

> think that it would get pretty old for him if his mother is asking

him

> to try and go potty every 20 minutes?

>

[Guest guest]

I know that would drive Brady nuts (he goes crazy if I ask him to try

after being in a car for 4 hours).... Having him clean it up

wouldn't be an option for us, because that would cause a huge blowup!

[Guest guest]

He is just playing you. if he doesn't stop put him in a diaper

From: Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1@...>Subject: ( ) Help please Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:23 AM

I have a 10 year old Aspie Son that has decided that it is too much work to walk to the bathroom and has decided that the corners of his bedroom work just fine to urinate. Besides just being disgusting it is ruining the floors. Any ideas on how to stop this?

[Guest guest]

I agree. Do not put up with that. He's 10 years old and smart enough to know better. I would take a zero tolerance policy and make HIM clean it up.

On 9/16/08, teresa walker <rockymtnjd@...> wrote:

He is just playing you. if he doesn't stop put him in a diaper

From: Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1@...>

Subject: ( ) Help please Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:23 AM

I have a 10 year old Aspie Son that has decided that it is too much work to walk to the bathroom and has decided that the corners of his bedroom work just fine to urinate. Besides just being disgusting it is

ruining the floors. Any ideas on how to stop this?

[Guest guest]

Well that would be good if I knew he had done it. Unfortunately I

don't know about it until it has started to stink. Even then it can be

hard to find until the wood starts to turn black. Its not like he

tells me when he does it.

[Guest guest]

Heidi - I agree 200%Heidi Guarino <heidi.guarino@...> wrote: I agree. Do not put up with that. He's 10 years old and smart enough to know better. I would take a zero tolerance policy and make HIM clean it up. On 9/16/08, teresa walker <rockymtnjd > wrote: He is just playing you. if he doesn't stop put him in a diaper From: Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1msn>Subject: ( ) Help please Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:23 AM I have a 10 year old Aspie Son that has decided that it is too much work to walk to the bathroom and has decided that the corners of his bedroom work just fine to urinate. Besides just being disgusting it is ruining the floors. Any ideas on how to stop

this?

[Guest guest]

Vickie, it's in his room and as soon as you find out, that's when I would tell him to clean it up. or the " if " question will always be there.Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1@...> wrote: Well that would be good if I knew he had done it. Unfortunately I don't know about it until it has started to stink. Even then it can be hard to find until the wood starts to turn black. Its not like he tells me when he does it.

[Guest guest]

I guess I should give a little background of the problem. He did

this once before. He has drawers under his bed and he used one of

them to pee in. When we discovered it the drawer was shot. At that

time we made him help clean up and told him if he ever did it again

we would take everything out of his room but his bed. A few days

later we found a different spot that he had been using but he

vehemtly claimed that it was all done before we found the other

spot. Fast forward 6 months or more we found that he had done it

again. I don't know how many times he used this corner but it was

dry to the touch but smelled and the wood had started to become

discolored.

We have followed through with the threat and removed everything from

his room but his bed. All his toys have been taken away. He has a

computer and tv that he shares with his sisters (in a play room).

For now we are letting this stay in use but these will be taken away

if he does it again.

I guess I was wondering if anyone else has ever delt with this issue

and what steps were taken to deal with it. I like the idea of the

Potty training and even the diapers (assuming he doesn't decide that

he likes the idea of not having to go to the bathroom and just using

the diaper). Sometimes things that any other kid would be horrified

of just doesn't faze him.

Vickie

[Guest guest]

Hi Vickie,

I googled " ten year old urinates in his room " and look at all the hits

that came up!!

Best wishes.

M.

[Guest guest]

Vickie, that is a great idea about using the diaper and your concern is also a Hugh concern of him - maybe- liking that idea of using a diaper. Parents always post on this site to make sure you replace a bad habit with a better habit or the child can replace a bad habit with another bad habit. I still feel it doesn't matter how long ago he used anyplace in his room as a toilet. I would tell him " this spot smells " and still make him clean it as soon as you smell it. If he has a meltdown, when finished, I would still tell him to clean it - until he does. or he will learn that having a meltdown will be his ' out ' to get out of things. What if you were to laminate signs saying - this is not a toilet - use the bathroom. place these signs in each corner of the room. Also include a pic of a toilet with a red diagonally line across the toilet. On the bottom of the sign,

write- use the bathroom with a picture of your bathroom. you can have these made at an office supply store. Not knowing when it happens is the hard part because it will be hard to find the reason why he started this especially after he knows to use the toilet. (like was he upset he had to do his homework, clean his room, etc) Does he have siblings? pets? What does he say when you speak to him about smelling urine in his room? That is a hard one. I wish you the best. I had a neighbor who had a child that did this When he was 5 - he would stand on the top of the stairs and pee down to the first floor. you would need an umbrella. She was packing to move at that same time it started.. I hope this passes soon for you. Best luck Rose Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1@...> wrote: I guess I should give a little background of the problem. He did this once before. He has drawers under his bed and he used one of them to pee in. When we discovered it the drawer was shot. At that time we made him help clean up and told him if he ever did it again we would take everything out of his room but his bed. A few days later we found a different spot that he had been using but he vehemtly claimed that it was all done before we found the other spot. Fast forward 6 months or more we found that he had done it again. I don't know how many times he used

this corner but it was dry to the touch but smelled and the wood had started to become discolored. We have followed through with the threat and removed everything from his room but his bed. All his toys have been taken away. He has a computer and tv that he shares with his sisters (in a play room). For now we are letting this stay in use but these will be taken away if he does it again. I guess I was wondering if anyone else has ever delt with this issue and what steps were taken to deal with it. I like the idea of the Potty training and even the diapers (assuming he doesn't decide that he likes the idea of not having to go to the bathroom and just using the diaper). Sometimes things that any other kid would be horrified of just doesn't faze him.Vickie

[Guest guest]

This is not an ultimate fix, but if punishment, training, etc. don't

work, you may want to try an old-fashioned chamber pot in his room.

There may be other issues...is he afraid of the dark? is it a long

distance to the bathroom? Once again...not the best fix, but if you

want to save your floor while you are working the problem.....

Jaelynne

>

> I have a 10 year old Aspie Son that has decided that it is too much

> work to walk to the bathroom and has decided that the corners of his

> bedroom work just fine to urinate. Besides just being disgusting it is

> ruining the floors. Any ideas on how to stop this?

>

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't let him have anything to drink past 6pm or so and make him use the restroom right before he gets in bed. Similar to potty training, but helps decrease the chance he'll have to go in the first place which might help break the bad habit. Hang in there, mom!

( ) Re: Help please

That is not a bad idea. -- In , "Missy" <mfilas76@.. .> wrote:>> Maybe going back to the old "potty training" routine would help. I > think that it would get pretty old for him if his mother is asking him > to try and go potty every 20 minutes?>

[Guest guest]

My son at ages 10-14 used the trashcans in his room & the kitchen, the kitchen sink. He did this in the middle of the night when he was stealing & hoarding food. He finally stopped when he went to residential placement for 16 months. He has been home for 3.5 months & no incidents of that or smearing poop all over the bathroom. No answers for you. Sent from my iPhoneBlessings, DonnaOn Sep 16, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

Heidi - I agree 200%Heidi Guarino <heidi.guarinogmail> wrote: I agree. Do not put up with that. He's 10 years old and smart enough to know better. I would take a zero tolerance policy and make HIM clean it up. On 9/16/08, teresa walker <rockymtnjd > wrote: He is just playing you. if he doesn't stop put him in a diaper From: Vickie Boehnlein <baneline1msn>Subject: ( ) Help please Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:23 AM I have a 10 year old Aspie Son that has decided that it is too much work to walk to the bathroom and has decided that the corners of his bedroom work just fine to urinate. Besides just being disgusting it is ruining the floors. Any ideas on how to stop

this?

[Guest guest]

No offense to the person who made the suggestion, but I think

it could be a bad mistake to try making him wear diapers again.

I've read too many stories about those sorts of childhood humiliations

causing the onset of fetishes or other issues.

Willa

[Guest guest]

> I have a 10 year old Aspie Son that has decided that it is too much

> work to walk to the bathroom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hey Vickie,

I wonder if he might be sleep walking and thinks that he is using

the bathroom?? Just a thought.

Marj

[Guest guest]

Wow, I actually feel better now. Aparently this is not altogether that

unusual. All the tips on Google match with a lot of the tips I have

gotten here as well as what we have done.

I have been working on the assumption that he is doing this when he is

playing/watching tv/computer because he doesnt want to take the time to

stop whatever he is doing to use the bathroom. It hadn't even crossed

my mind that he would be doing it at night since potty training has

never been an issue.

My girlfriend has a 16 year old Aspie that for a while was urinating on

the outside of the shower curtain because he thought the toilet was to

dirty to use (interesting logic there hey:). So I guess I need to dig

a little deeper and see if I can get an explanation from him as to why.

Vickie

[Guest guest]

Does it do it at night or anytime day or night?

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) Help please

I have a 10 year old Aspie Son that has decided that it is too much work to walk to the bathroom and has decided that the corners of his bedroom work just fine to urinate. Besides just being disgusting it is ruining the floors. Any ideas on how to stop this?

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