Subject: Another case in point: Pouch Rules For Dummies (long)

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In a message dated 11/26/01 9:02:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

duodenalswitch writes:

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Subject: Another case in point: Pouch Rules For Dummies (long)

Anyone who is considering the RNY should first read this essay written

by an RNY surgeon. Very eye-opening. (Cites at end of article.) >>

- this sounds like the littany of things I have heard doctors tell me

my whole life about dieting..........and about weight gain and not losing is

all *my* fault.

Anyone who decides to live like this *IS* Stupid, in my opinion. I don't

care if I'm the *one* who said it or any of the many who said it. But, if

one chooses to live like that, hell, more power to ya. You are the one who

will have to deal with it day to day, hour to hour, minute to minute. I will

be off eating normally, living a normal " new " life, like the one the Dr.

castigated people for in the last paragraph(s) of this article.

, I think you should note the number of this post and refer people to

it on the DS website, if you can't have a copy of this ver batem on the site.

Maybe it could be copied and put into a file, like Hull's files? To

refer people to and then let them make up their own minds.....if they think

this sounds like what they *deserve*, more power to them as I say.

I have no problem with anyone choosing RNY. BUT I *DO* have a problem with

those same people criticizing *ME* and *OTHERS* on this list *WHICH IS A DS

LIST* for us finding fault with the RNY.. I think those people need to grow

up and move on to the RNY lists where they can bash the DS till doomsday

(which might be closer than we think, unfortunately) because there are

literally hundreds of RNY lists for every one DS list. Those RNY people had

to look hard to find our DS lists and to come here and bash us is ignorant

and more, but I will try not to express myself with the depth I want to

here..............

Yes, there are even many surgeons they can quote who will agree with

them......the surgeons who perform the very RNY they think is

*best*......maybe......because........that means more money in *their*

pockets? Ya think anyone could be so biased for money??? If not, you must be

living a very protected life without contact from the real world!

It *also* occurred to me from reading this that *MAYBE* those who think RNY

is so GREAT and that they need a *different* relationship with food are those

who were *THIN* in their younger years and gained weight as they grew

older......perhaps when they had children (if they are women) or stopped

running track or stoppped being in sports or something like that. THOSE OF

US WHO WERE BORN FAT, who were

FAT TODDLERS, FAT KINDERGARTENERS, FAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS, FAT TEENAGERS,

FAT ADULTS, etc. who dieted and tried to get a *new* relationship with food

all their lives have already dieted ad naseum. I am NOT going to *SIGN UP*

for getting my body cut apart so I can go on another DIET!!!!!!!!!!

I *HAVE* suffered more than enough and lived a lonely life filled with lots

of failure already. I do *NOT* need some surgeon telling me I am

non-compliant and it is *AGAIN MY FAULT* that I gained weight, even after he

butchered my stomach!

Carole