Where to start

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HI , I AM PREPAIRING ORE PART 1 AND IELTS AT THE MOMENT ,WOULD YOU LIKE TO STUDY

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MANY THANKS ,

SANDRA

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My daughter is 12 weeks old and her doctor noticed at her 2 month appointment

that her head was a little flat. So for the last four weeks I have been doing

more tummy time (2-5 minutes 2-3 times a day instead of once a day) and putting

a rolled receiving blanket under her right side while she slept. I was not

really worried about it.

Four days ago, a friend mentioned that she hardly ever turns her head to the

left which I had known but it made me think harder. Then two days ago, I

noticed how difficult it was for me to encourage her to turn to the left. I

googled it and found info on tort and plagio. After a day or two of working

with her, she is turning her head much better so now I'm thinking maybe it's not

tort but I'm not certain.

I took a closer look at her head though and realized that the back of her head

hasn't gotten much better. But what really has me concerned is that after

reading up on it, I looked at her forehead, ears, and face and realized that one

ear is farther forward, one side of her face looks fuller, and her forehead is

pushed forward on one side. The back of her head isn't terrible in my opinion

but I know there is a short window of opportunity I don't want to miss it.

Now I'm wondering if I should make a separate appointment with her doc before

her 4 month visit. I am keeping her off of her head 90% of the time she is

awake and continuing to prop her while sleeping and working even more on tummy

time and turning her head.

Also, I am fortunate enough to live 40 minutes from Pasadena, CA where there is

Cranial Tech as well as a Starscanner facility. I actually grew up there and my

parents are still there as well.

So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Should I make an appointment

with her pediatrician ASAP? Keep up repositioning efforts until her 4 month

check? Get a free consult at Cranial Tech to document where she is now and see

what they say?

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I would go ahead and go back to your ped and ask for a referral to either CT or the Starband place. Sometimes it takes awhile to get the ball rolling. Then you may have to battle with the insurance company if they deny the first time. Some people are in the position that they can go ahead and pay for the band up front while they continue the battle with the insurance company, however, I was not. Luckily, I had no problem with my insurance. I was in the peds office the very day I noticed my son's head shape when he was 10 weeks old. We got his band when he was 5 months old after 2 months of aggressive repositioning. This is a great place to get your questions answered. There is alot of knowledge on this board about plagio and tort. p.s. if you were noticing your daughter's head

tilting, you may want to also get a referral to a physical therapist to rule out tort.

From: lkpod <kpodley@...>Plagiocephaly Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 1:02:06 AMSubject: Where to start

My daughter is 12 weeks old and her doctor noticed at her 2 month appointment that her head was a little flat. So for the last four weeks I have been doing more tummy time (2-5 minutes 2-3 times a day instead of once a day) and putting a rolled receiving blanket under her right side while she slept. I was not really worried about it.Four days ago, a friend mentioned that she hardly ever turns her head to the left which I had known but it made me think harder. Then two days ago, I noticed how difficult it was for me to encourage her to turn to the left. I googled it and found info on tort and plagio. After a day or two of working with her, she is turning her head much better so now I'm thinking maybe it's not tort but I'm not certain.I took a closer look at her head though and realized that the back of her head hasn't gotten much better. But what really has me concerned is that after reading up on it, I looked at her forehead, ears, and

face and realized that one ear is farther forward, one side of her face looks fuller, and her forehead is pushed forward on one side. The back of her head isn't terrible in my opinion but I know there is a short window of opportunity I don't want to miss it.Now I'm wondering if I should make a separate appointment with her doc before her 4 month visit. I am keeping her off of her head 90% of the time she is awake and continuing to prop her while sleeping and working even more on tummy time and turning her head. Also, I am fortunate enough to live 40 minutes from Pasadena, CA where there is Cranial Tech as well as a Starscanner facility. I actually grew up there and my parents are still there as well.So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Should I make an appointment with her pediatrician ASAP? Keep up repositioning efforts until her 4 month check? Get a free consult at Cranial Tech to document where she is now and see

what they say?

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To some of the people that have had PT advice on stretches for torticollis, can you share some of the techniques?

Thank you!

Carmen

From: "ralevalley@..." <ralevalley@...>Plagiocephaly Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:26:44 AMSubject: Re: Where to start

I so get where you're coming from!! My son is almost 10 weeks old, but his tort/plagio was so bad at his 2 month check up that our ped (who is AMAZING) sent us to CT in Pasadena as well. How I didn't notice his ears and forehead, now that they have been pointed out to me, is crazy! In any case, I would suggest going in sooner simply because of the tort. We started seeing a Physical Therapist in Santa Clarita (where we live) and the neck stretches, just in the past week, have made a big difference.Cranial Tech definitely agreed with our doc that our little man is ultimately going to need a helmet, but they can't do the scan or fit him until he's at least 3 months because of head control. We're sort of on the fence right now because the Physical Therapist wants us to give it more time with aggressive sleep positioning and the PT to let his head naturally grow to a better shape.We keep him on his tummy as much as possible and do the

stretches at least 5-6 times a day, as well as PT 2-3 times per week for the next 3 weeks until we go back to Pasadena. Just thought it would help to know that you aren't the only one going through it!!Good luck, >> My daughter is 12 weeks old and her doctor noticed at her 2 month appointment that her head was a little flat. So for the last four weeks I have been doing more tummy time (2-5 minutes 2-3 times a day instead of once a day) and putting a rolled receiving blanket under her right side while she slept. I was not really worried about it.> > Four days ago, a friend mentioned that she hardly ever turns her head to the left which I had known but it made me think harder. Then two days ago, I

noticed how difficult it was for me to encourage her to turn to the left. I googled it and found info on tort and plagio. After a day or two of working with her, she is turning her head much better so now I'm thinking maybe it's not tort but I'm not certain.> > I took a closer look at her head though and realized that the back of her head hasn't gotten much better. But what really has me concerned is that after reading up on it, I looked at her forehead, ears, and face and realized that one ear is farther forward, one side of her face looks fuller, and her forehead is pushed forward on one side. The back of her head isn't terrible in my opinion but I know there is a short window of opportunity I don't want to miss it.> > Now I'm wondering if I should make a separate appointment with her doc before her 4 month visit. I am keeping her off of her head 90% of the time she is awake and continuing to prop her while sleeping and

working even more on tummy time and turning her head. > > Also, I am fortunate enough to live 40 minutes from Pasadena, CA where there is Cranial Tech as well as a Starscanner facility. I actually grew up there and my parents are still there as well.> > So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Should I make an appointment with her pediatrician ASAP? Keep up repositioning efforts until her 4 month check? Get a free consult at Cranial Tech to document where she is now and see what they say?>

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It sounds like you are on the right track. I would have her evaluated by CT.

They can probably give you a good idea if it looks like tort. It quite likely is

since tort is a huge contributor to plagio, and any restricted movement or

strong preference is a good reason to suspect tort. I would also call your

doctor and ask for a referral to a physical therapist who specializes in tort to

get an evaluation done. Many peds miss tort, just as they miss plagio because

they are unaware of it. One thing to look at is your photos - is your baby's

head always tilting to the same side? This is another indicator of tort. Don't

worry too much if it is tort - finding it now means you can do the stretches to

help correct it.

-christine

sydney, 5 yrs, starband grad

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> My daughter is 12 weeks old and her doctor noticed at her 2 month appointment

that her head was a little flat. So for the last four weeks I have been doing

more tummy time (2-5 minutes 2-3 times a day instead of once a day) and putting

a rolled receiving blanket under her right side while she slept. I was not

really worried about it.

>

> Four days ago, a friend mentioned that she hardly ever turns her head to the

left which I had known but it made me think harder. Then two days ago, I

noticed how difficult it was for me to encourage her to turn to the left. I

googled it and found info on tort and plagio. After a day or two of working

with her, she is turning her head much better so now I'm thinking maybe it's not

tort but I'm not certain.

>

> I took a closer look at her head though and realized that the back of her head

hasn't gotten much better. But what really has me concerned is that after

reading up on it, I looked at her forehead, ears, and face and realized that one

ear is farther forward, one side of her face looks fuller, and her forehead is

pushed forward on one side. The back of her head isn't terrible in my opinion

but I know there is a short window of opportunity I don't want to miss it.

>

> Now I'm wondering if I should make a separate appointment with her doc before

her 4 month visit. I am keeping her off of her head 90% of the time she is

awake and continuing to prop her while sleeping and working even more on tummy

time and turning her head.

>

> Also, I am fortunate enough to live 40 minutes from Pasadena, CA where there

is Cranial Tech as well as a Starscanner facility. I actually grew up there and

my parents are still there as well.

>

> So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Should I make an appointment

with her pediatrician ASAP? Keep up repositioning efforts until her 4 month

check? Get a free consult at Cranial Tech to document where she is now and see

what they say?

>

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Thanks ladies. , I'm in Santa Clarita also...small world, huh? I'd love

to know who your pediatrician and PT are if you wouldn't mind sharing. We see

Dr. Tang at Facey Canyon Country. I think I will call her office Monday to get

the ball rolling. I'll see how they respond and then decide about consulting

with CT. I figure a consult with CT and a referral to PT can't hurt, right?

I'm still hopeful that aggressive repositioning might work as I don't think she

is severe but the facial/ear asymmetry is what really bothers me. Just in a few

days of trying to get her to turn her head the other way she seems to be able to

do that much better already. I've also found a few ways to do tummy time that

she doesn't absolutely hate so I think we are making some progress on our own

but I know it could probably be helped even more with professional guidance.

How do you think you make the judgment call as to what is good enough? If she

makes progress with repositioning but it is still noticeable to me but not

others, I just don't know what to do in that case. I obviously want to do what

is best for her in both the long run and short run. I guess if I'm thinking

about it this much it's probably something I should move on sooner rather than

later.

Kendall

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> > My daughter is 12 weeks old and her doctor noticed at her 2 month

appointment that her head was a little flat. So for the last four weeks I have

been doing more tummy time (2-5 minutes 2-3 times a day instead of once a day)

and putting a rolled receiving blanket under her right side while she slept. I

was not really worried about it.

> >

> > Four days ago, a friend mentioned that she hardly ever turns her head to the

left which I had known but it made me think harder. Then two days ago, I

noticed how difficult it was for me to encourage her to turn to the left. I

googled it and found info on tort and plagio. After a day or two of working

with her, she is turning her head much better so now I'm thinking maybe it's not

tort but I'm not certain.

> >

> > I took a closer look at her head though and realized that the back of her

head hasn't gotten much better. But what really has me concerned is that after

reading up on it, I looked at her forehead, ears, and face and realized that one

ear is farther forward, one side of her face looks fuller, and her forehead is

pushed forward on one side. The back of her head isn't terrible in my opinion

but I know there is a short window of opportunity I don't want to miss it.

> >

> > Now I'm wondering if I should make a separate appointment with her doc

before her 4 month visit. I am keeping her off of her head 90% of the time she

is awake and continuing to prop her while sleeping and working even more on

tummy time and turning her head.

> >

> > Also, I am fortunate enough to live 40 minutes from Pasadena, CA where there

is Cranial Tech as well as a Starscanner facility. I actually grew up there and

my parents are still there as well.

> >

> > So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Should I make an appointment

with her pediatrician ASAP? Keep up repositioning efforts until her 4 month

check? Get a free consult at Cranial Tech to document where she is now and see

what they say?

> >

>

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In order to decide about banding I would suggest taking picture every week or

two then comparing them over time. Also if you get an evaluation the

measurements can help somewhat.

-christine

sydney, 5 yrs, starband grad

> > >

> > > My daughter is 12 weeks old and her doctor noticed at her 2 month

appointment that her head was a little flat. So for the last four weeks I have

been doing more tummy time (2-5 minutes 2-3 times a day instead of once a day)

and putting a rolled receiving blanket under her right side while she slept. I

was not really worried about it.

> > >

> > > Four days ago, a friend mentioned that she hardly ever turns her head to

the left which I had known but it made me think harder. Then two days ago, I

noticed how difficult it was for me to encourage her to turn to the left. I

googled it and found info on tort and plagio. After a day or two of working

with her, she is turning her head much better so now I'm thinking maybe it's not

tort but I'm not certain.

> > >

> > > I took a closer look at her head though and realized that the back of her

head hasn't gotten much better. But what really has me concerned is that after

reading up on it, I looked at her forehead, ears, and face and realized that one

ear is farther forward, one side of her face looks fuller, and her forehead is

pushed forward on one side. The back of her head isn't terrible in my opinion

but I know there is a short window of opportunity I don't want to miss it.

> > >

> > > Now I'm wondering if I should make a separate appointment with her doc

before her 4 month visit. I am keeping her off of her head 90% of the time she

is awake and continuing to prop her while sleeping and working even more on

tummy time and turning her head.

> > >

> > > Also, I am fortunate enough to live 40 minutes from Pasadena, CA where

there is Cranial Tech as well as a Starscanner facility. I actually grew up

there and my parents are still there as well.

> > >

> > > So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Should I make an

appointment with her pediatrician ASAP? Keep up repositioning efforts until her

4 month check? Get a free consult at Cranial Tech to document where she is now

and see what they say?

> > >

> >

>

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We were in the same boat with our son. Knowing what I know now, I would

definitely get her to a Physical Therapist for a Tort eval. I would also

recommend an eval with a band provider - they're free and you have nothing to

lose. In fact, it will give you baseline information. I don't know that an

appointment with your pediatrician will do much good right now... unless you

need to do that in order to get a referral for PT.

I can tell you from personal experience that tort has a major impact on baby's

head shape. So, you are very lucky that you are aware of it early in your

daughter's life and can do something about it now. PT will help a lot, but you

must be diligent about doing the exercises at home and lots of tummy time.

Your daughter is young and her brain is growing at a fast rate, so I would think

that you should see good results with repositioning.

If you do end up in a band, get it while she's young (5-6 months, or as soon as

they will allow it) to take advantage of all that brain growth - you will see

quicker & probably better results.

I can tell you my story so you can learn from my mistakes. Ped noticed his flat

head at 2 month check. She told us (again) to alternate his head when we lay

him down to sleep. She had told us from day one, but I was never diligent about

it. I became more diligent about it after this visit, but the damage had

already been done. After that appt, I started doing research and found out

about plagio and tort. I scheduled a follow-up with the ped and got a referral

to a neurosurgeon. I also asked her if she thought he had tort and she said no.

We went to the neurosurg when he was 3.5 months old. He minimized our concerns

but did say Tyler had tort. Because of what the ped said, we actually didn't

believe him. It probably also had something to do with the general vibe we got

off the guy. He told us to see a PT for the tort and showed us the neck

stretches. I started doing the neck stretches anyway and saw some improvement.

About 1 month later, I finally realized for myself that Tyler had tort and we

began 5.5 months of PT. I think it took so long because I was not good about

doing his stretches at home. Tyler was older and he could fight back when I

stretched him. So, I didn't push the issue. I also waited way too long to get

serious about tummy time. At 7 months, we saw a 2nd neuro for a 2nd opinion

because it results from our repo efforts had tapered off. It was more of the

same... keep doing what you're doing, his case is mild, it will round out on

it's own. Blah, blah, blah. We left the appt deciding to let nature take it's

course (but I also asked him to write a scrip for the band, just in case). I

continued to obsess over his head for the next few months and finally just

before his 1st bday, I took him to CT for an eval. He was banded at 13 months

and will graduate tomorrow. He will have worn 2 bands for a total of 7.5

months. His head will never be perfect, but we have seen so much change and we

are so happy we did this for him. My regrets are that my own lack of

self-discipline caused him problems. If only I had gotten it all together when

he was younger & could have had better results. I guess that's why I think you

are so fortunate... Your baby is young and you can avoid the same regrets &

mistakes I made by jumping on this now.

Best of luck to you. Keep us posted.

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> My daughter is 12 weeks old and her doctor noticed at her 2 month appointment

that her head was a little flat. So for the last four weeks I have been doing

more tummy time (2-5 minutes 2-3 times a day instead of once a day) and putting

a rolled receiving blanket under her right side while she slept. I was not

really worried about it.

>

> Four days ago, a friend mentioned that she hardly ever turns her head to the

left which I had known but it made me think harder. Then two days ago, I

noticed how difficult it was for me to encourage her to turn to the left. I

googled it and found info on tort and plagio. After a day or two of working

with her, she is turning her head much better so now I'm thinking maybe it's not

tort but I'm not certain.

>

> I took a closer look at her head though and realized that the back of her head

hasn't gotten much better. But what really has me concerned is that after

reading up on it, I looked at her forehead, ears, and face and realized that one

ear is farther forward, one side of her face looks fuller, and her forehead is

pushed forward on one side. The back of her head isn't terrible in my opinion

but I know there is a short window of opportunity I don't want to miss it.

>

> Now I'm wondering if I should make a separate appointment with her doc before

her 4 month visit. I am keeping her off of her head 90% of the time she is

awake and continuing to prop her while sleeping and working even more on tummy

time and turning her head.

>

> Also, I am fortunate enough to live 40 minutes from Pasadena, CA where there

is Cranial Tech as well as a Starscanner facility. I actually grew up there and

my parents are still there as well.

>

> So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Should I make an appointment

with her pediatrician ASAP? Keep up repositioning efforts until her 4 month

check? Get a free consult at Cranial Tech to document where she is now and see

what they say?

>

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When you said you were 40 minutes from Pasadena I wondered if you lived up here!

We go to Valencia Pediatrics - they are absolutely amazing. Luckily our doctor

(Dr. Mike Shoenwetter) is very up-to-date and told us at his 2 month appointment

about the tort and plagio and encouraged us to go to CT and PT right away. I'm

so glad we did! We are going to PT at Bright Stars, on Soledad & Bouquet right

behind Chi Chi's. We had our evaluation last week and they were really good.

They want to see our little man 3x per week. We start tomorrow morning. He has

taken to the neck stretches that they showed us really well and has improved

drastically in just 4 days. I'm hoping that all this means that we won't need

quite as much PT as others on here have needed. Once the tort is under control

we can address his head and hopefully have him banded. From everything I've read

it looks like the best time to have the DocBand made is between 4 and 6 months.

We go back for another evaluation at CT in a few weeks and I'm really looking

forward to finding out how much his measurements have changed.

About making the judgement call, that's a really hard one. Our little guy has

really bad symmetry and CT says even aggressive repositioning probably won't fix

it, so I'm resigned to needing the band, even though I'm doing whatever I can to

help it not get worse.

Please keep me updated! I'd love to hear about your experience, especially since

we are in the same area!!!

> > >

> > > My daughter is 12 weeks old and her doctor noticed at her 2 month

appointment that her head was a little flat. So for the last four weeks I have

been doing more tummy time (2-5 minutes 2-3 times a day instead of once a day)

and putting a rolled receiving blanket under her right side while she slept. I

was not really worried about it.

> > >

> > > Four days ago, a friend mentioned that she hardly ever turns her head to

the left which I had known but it made me think harder. Then two days ago, I

noticed how difficult it was for me to encourage her to turn to the left. I

googled it and found info on tort and plagio. After a day or two of working

with her, she is turning her head much better so now I'm thinking maybe it's not

tort but I'm not certain.

> > >

> > > I took a closer look at her head though and realized that the back of her

head hasn't gotten much better. But what really has me concerned is that after

reading up on it, I looked at her forehead, ears, and face and realized that one

ear is farther forward, one side of her face looks fuller, and her forehead is

pushed forward on one side. The back of her head isn't terrible in my opinion

but I know there is a short window of opportunity I don't want to miss it.

> > >

> > > Now I'm wondering if I should make a separate appointment with her doc

before her 4 month visit. I am keeping her off of her head 90% of the time she

is awake and continuing to prop her while sleeping and working even more on

tummy time and turning her head.

> > >

> > > Also, I am fortunate enough to live 40 minutes from Pasadena, CA where

there is Cranial Tech as well as a Starscanner facility. I actually grew up

there and my parents are still there as well.

> > >

> > > So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Should I make an

appointment with her pediatrician ASAP? Keep up repositioning efforts until her

4 month check? Get a free consult at Cranial Tech to document where she is now

and see what they say?

> > >

> >

>

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> I went through the file section and bought most of if not all the required

books.Just wondering which book to start first or should I start by the

questions?should I do a thorough reading first or try to study by hard? I have

been away from studying for quite a bit so any advise will be really

appreciated.

> Thanks everyone.

>

Could someone helpppppp pleasssse?