Water Chestnuts have a high starch content/ Was Re: question about a legal/illegal

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna and Mimi,

Amylose is more digestible than amylopectin. Please see the diagrams in BTVC,

p29-30 10th edition.

The amylose is a chain of glucose molecules. The chains are acted upon by

amylase to break apart the structure into it's simpler to digest glucose

molecules. The problem with amylopectin is that it is highly branched and if an

individual doesn't have enough natural enzyme production happening (injured

gut...etc..) then only the outer branches will be broken down leaving a large

molecule. This leaves a large portion of the molecule undigested and in the

digestivally challenged individual it will feed the microbes that we are trying

to starve on the SCD.

Elaine wrote that water chestnuts are legal ( " Water chestnuts not at the

beginning but later on " from Lyris

http://lyris.dundee.net/read/messages?id=220212#220212). They are pretty

fibrous though and are for later in the diet after some healing occurs.

Sheila

hi mimi,

so amylopectin is more digestable than amylose. interestingly amylose

is more similar in structure to a disaccharide (baseed on the carbon

atoms bound togetherin each sugar unit). do you think amylopectin is

more digestable than a disaccharide? i know that they are all illegal

on scd but just curious about relative digestability. i would have

thought to move from simple sugar to disaccharide to amylose. from what

you sent me it seems to be very different than what i thought.

donna

>

> Hi Donna,

> Here is an article about water chestnuts. The article indicates that

> the amylose content of water chestnuts is 29%. Amylose starch is less

> readily digested than amylopectin.

> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Amylose

> Mimi

>

> http://www.blackwel l-synergy. com/doi/abs/ 10.1111/j. 1745-

4514.2005.00010. x?cookieSet= 1 & journalCode= jfbc

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

I am sorry but I think that Wiki made a mistake. I was very tired when

I answered your email. BTVC says the opposite. I will make more

searches and then apologyze to the list. Thank you so much for

correcting me,

> hi mimi,

> so amylopectin is more digestable than amylose. interestingly amylose

> is more similar in structure to a disaccharide (baseed on the carbon

> atoms bound togetherin each sugar unit). do you think amylopectin is

> more digestable than a disaccharide? i know that they are all illegal

> on scd but just curious about relative digestability. i would have

> thought to move from simple sugar to disaccharide to amylose. from what

> you sent me it seems to be very different than what i thought.

> donna

>

> >

> > Hi Donna,

> > Here is an article about water chestnuts. The article indicates that

> > the amylose content of water chestnuts is 29%. Amylose starch is less

> > readily digested than amylopectin.

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylose

> > Mimi

> >

> > http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1745-

> 4514.2005.00010.x?cookieSet=1 & journalCode=jfbc

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was very tired when I found the error on Wikipedia. I am making more

research about this matter. I was just ready to correct the error on

the list.

Mimi.

> Hi Donna and Mimi,

>

> Amylose is more digestible than amylopectin. Please see the diagrams in

> BTVC, p29-30 10th edition.

>

> The amylose is a chain of glucose molecules. The chains are acted upon by

> amylase to break apart the structure into it's simpler to digest glucose

> molecules. The problem with amylopectin is that it is highly branched and

> if an individual doesn't have enough natural enzyme production happening

> (injured gut...etc..) then only the outer branches will be broken down

> leaving a large molecule. This leaves a large portion of the molecule

> undigested and in the digestivally challenged individual it will feed the

> microbes that we are trying to starve on the SCD.

>

> Elaine wrote that water chestnuts are legal ( " Water chestnuts not at the

> beginning but later on " from Lyris

> http://lyris.dundee.net/read/messages?id=220212#220212). They are pretty

> fibrous though and are for later in the diet after some healing occurs.

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

> hi mimi,

> so amylopectin is more digestable than amylose. interestingly amylose

> is more similar in structure to a disaccharide (baseed on the carbon

> atoms bound togetherin each sugar unit). do you think amylopectin is

> more digestable than a disaccharide? i know that they are all illegal

> on scd but just curious about relative digestability. i would have

> thought to move from simple sugar to disaccharide to amylose. from what

> you sent me it seems to be very different than what i thought.

> donna

>

> >

> > Hi Donna,

> > Here is an article about water chestnuts. The article indicates that

> > the amylose content of water chestnuts is 29%. Amylose starch is less

> > readily digested than amylopectin.

> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Amylose

> > Mimi

> >

> > http://www.blackwel l-synergy. com/doi/abs/ 10.1111/j. 1745-

> 4514.2005.00010. x?cookieSet= 1 & journalCode= jfbc

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

I am not sure why it is listed as illegal. There is a lot of great

info in the Lyris archives but most people don't have access to it

any longer because of the money owed to the company.

I'll forward the post on water chestnuts that Elaine wrote to Iain ,

who is the http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/ webmaster

Sheila, SCD Feb., 2001, UC 23 yrs

mom of and

> thanks sheila,

> that makes sense to me. i thought the molecule most similar to the

> disaccharide was more digestable. however elaine's website lists

> water chestnuts as illegal. (unless i read it wrong ???). so maybe

> it was one of those foods elaine changed status on after learning

> more about it? is that possible?

> donna