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Really.! I hear ya'! I just failed to mention I am a very OLD nurse, and I

was referring to times back when I was a new nurse, and every patient got

their back washed, rubbed, and powdered before they went to sleep! Now, you

never even get touched!

It was better then! Later, I love your humor, Donna. PhillyJude

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From what I see in the nursing field these days, I don't think they teach the

same stuff we had to learn. Backrubs 101 was way back in 1964. Now, I don't

know what it is, just lets get done and go home. I guess.

Shelby

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Hey Genz,

OK 'cause you asked for it. These are my stats so far. Had the Open on Aug

14th. Lost 25lbs the first month, 19lbs the second. Thats 44lbs in two

months and if you add the 27lbs I lost two months prior to surgery...that's a

grand total of 71lbs gone forever!!!

I only weigh once a month at my doctor's...but I think before the end of

November I'll be buying me a postal scale. Then I can see if I hit a plateau

instead of just guessing.

Still waiting to see if my hair's gonna fall out. LOL LOL Nothing yet.

Hugs and Blessings,

Rose

Post-Op

Dr Shikora - Boston, MA

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I'm a masseuse--do you suppose I could get you to trade with me?

Sperb

>>> Judyh1022@... 10/30/00 07:00PM >>>

Really.! I hear ya'! I just failed to mention I am a very OLD nurse, and I

was referring to times back when I was a new nurse, and every patient got

their back washed, rubbed, and powdered before they went to sleep! Now, you

never even get touched!

It was better then! Later, I love your humor, Donna. PhillyJude

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Hey Rose,

How are you doing??????? Give us an update on your surgery and weight

loss. Can't wait to hear how your doing.

Love,

Genz ( Rose)

MGB 5-31-00

249/193

56 pounds and 78 inches gone forever

MGB approved by Prudential in less than 72 hours!!!!!

JULIE0630@... wrote:

> >every patient got their back washed, rubbed,

> and powdered before they went to sleep!<

>

> Oh my my,

>

> I must be old...I remember that happening to me. Gave you a very warm and

> secure feeling, like the nurses really cared. Today the nurses have too many

> patients too handle or weren't taught in nursing school to do this. After

> all, nursing has to be updated, but do we have to lose all the good stuff???

>

> Hugs and Blessings,

> Rose

> Post-Op

> Dr Shikora - Boston, MA

>

>

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Awwwww Genz,

Not a HOT MAMA yet, but I'm feeling soooo much better. You're doing great,

wish I weighed 193, gonna be a while before I see a '1' in front of my

numbers.

To answer your questions: I was in the hospital for three days. My surgery

was around 4:00PM and they kept me overnite in recovery, Standard Operating

Procedure I'm told. That was great 'cause the nurses were at my beck and

call for any little thing. But I didn't bother them much and they always

seemed to come over to chat a little when I was awake. That made me feel

good.

Recovery time: Have an 8 inch scar which is longer than his usual cut

because he did three liver biopsys and an ultra scan directly on my liver. I

was only miserable when I tried to get up off or onto the couch or toilet or

bed. That lasted for about a week and then got much better and didn't need

d/h or son to pull me up or slowly set me down. I had two drains that came

out after two weeks along with 22 staples. Ouchyyy. Threw up twice, eating

toooo fast. My incision site is still sore and it took longer than I thought

to get my strength back, 'bout two months. Was depressed the first month, OK

now and I have good days where I have lots of energy and bad when I can't do

a thing. I expect that to change in the third month, all for the better.

I've had pain from drinking too fast and too much. Still do it without

thinking...when am I gonna learn???

Hospital stay: Wonderful overall. Was in a new bed, the kind that turns

into a chair and scoots you out. The hospital just got new and improved

models, and so comfy too. And the room I shared was huge and one wall was

floor to ceiling windows. Saw a beautiful sunset and sunrise right from my

bed.

Just had two minor 'Piss & Moan Events' but other than that everything was

great. One was a problem with the wrong food (if you could call it that

hehehe) being sent up to me. I bitched, it was fixed. The other thing...was

left in the bathroom waiting for the nurse to return with a clean johnny. It

was toooo warm in there and I nearly passed out. Had to open the door

(trying to cover myself at same time) and hold on to something so I wouldn't

fall to the floor, starting screaming for help and was rescued by a male

(figures) nurse who was attending to my roommate. My nurse forgot about me!!

Overall I'm doing well and on course, like a lot of us. Looking forward to

my first goal...losing my first 100lbs. Want to do that before Christmas, my

present to me.

Hope I didn't bore any of you. Love ya Genz.

Hugs and Blessings,

Rose

441 Highest

414 At Surgery

370 10/13(weigh once a mth)

Dr Shikora - Boston, MA

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Maybe it is that those going into nursing don't care anymore. Maybe. But I

also think the nature of medicine has changed so dramatically. Nurses are

now utilized to keep the paper flowing, keep the documentation up to the

minute for fear of law suits, keep all of the new required forms running in

all the right directions, and rarely given the time to stop and chat and be

kind and actually touch someone. They bitterly complain about that behind

closed doors. Many are leaving the profession because of this lack of

personal interplay, and we are worse off because of it. Managed care has

made every hospital worker a 'bottom liner', whether they want to be or not.

And many people are simply leaving the field, or not ever entering. Now,

again, we have a shortage. So they'll rush some folks thru a 2 year program,

give 'em an A>D>, and send them out to the floors. These nurses are much

less prepared than they used to be, in my opinion. I believe they should

have never closed the hospital schools of nursing. Those were the best

damned nurses!!

Those were the nurses who always wanted to be nurses and were willing to put

in long hours at low pay, and live in a hospital dorm in trade for a low

tuition and the best teaching possible, right on the floors with the patients

and staff.

Sometimes, progress seems regress. PhillyJude

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WOW Rose!!!!!!!

I'll bet you are one HOT MAMA!!!!!!! 71 pounds is wonderful! I'm 5

months

and I've lost 56 pounds. You're doing great......you may not notice hair loss

for

another month or two. I hope it's very little, mine is quite a bit.

I'm really glad you're doing good. How long did it take you to recovery

from the open procedure? How did your hospital stay go? Were you in there long?

Take care and keep me posted.

Love,

Genz

MGB 5-31-00

249/193

JULIE0630@... wrote:

> Hey Genz,

>

> OK 'cause you asked for it. These are my stats so far. Had the Open on Aug

> 14th. Lost 25lbs the first month, 19lbs the second. Thats 44lbs in two

> months and if you add the 27lbs I lost two months prior to surgery...that's a

> grand total of 71lbs gone forever!!!

>

> I only weigh once a month at my doctor's...but I think before the end of

> November I'll be buying me a postal scale. Then I can see if I hit a plateau

> instead of just guessing.

>

> Still waiting to see if my hair's gonna fall out. LOL LOL Nothing yet.

>

> Hugs and Blessings,

> Rose

> Post-Op

> Dr Shikora - Boston, MA

>

>

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< Where are all the good nurses these days..

they just don't care like they use to.

LOL >>

This good nurse quit to stay home with her kids. :>)

I also hated the fact that I was overworked and underpaid!! I LOVED spending

time with my pt's ( L & D) and always helped them with a bath if needed. The

c-section pt's almost always needed help, and I was happy to help. BUT the

other nurses, my charge nurse, the doctors and my other pts didn't like the

fact that I wasn't there at a moments notice! Sorry, but I am not leaving a

lady butt naked, covered in soap.. with no help!! I decided to take care of

my own kids.. where I could take my time and do it right!

Spunky

aka Cindy ;>)

Pre-op

Hoping to dance with the good doctor soon!!

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Listen, icky story, but I have to tell it.

I had galbalder surgery 2 yrs ago, and they did the open percedure, so I had

lots of pain, and couldn't reach all my spots to wash..

Get the picture? The nurse brings in the pain of water, clean wash cloth and a

towel and says I'll be back in a little bit to pick it all up. No help, no

washing back, or under belly, or needless to say anything lower..

The problem was I was on my period, and what a mess.. I said finally I would

need a little help, please?? She came back in and washed my back... period,

nothing else..

When my husband came in a little while later I still had the cleaning stuff

there, so he washed everything else.. He is such a sweetie, did n't even

embarass him.

Where are all the good nurses these days..

they just don't care like they use to.

LOL

Just my 2cents, Trudy

backrubs

>every patient got their back washed, rubbed,

and powdered before they went to sleep!<

Oh my my,

I must be old...I remember that happening to me. Gave you a very warm and

secure feeling, like the nurses really cared. Today the nurses have too many

patients too handle or weren't taught in nursing school to do this. After

all, nursing has to be updated, but do we have to lose all the good stuff???

Hugs and Blessings,

Rose

Post-Op

Dr Shikora - Boston, MA

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HEAR HEAR JUDE

Robin

At 01:24 PM 10/31/00 EST, you wrote:

>Maybe it is that those going into nursing don't care anymore. Maybe. But I

>also think the nature of medicine has changed so dramatically. Nurses are

>now utilized to keep the paper flowing, keep the documentation up to the

>minute for fear of law suits, keep all of the new required forms running in

>all the right directions, and rarely given the time to stop and chat and be

>kind and actually touch someone. They bitterly complain about that behind

>closed doors. Many are leaving the profession because of this lack of

>personal interplay, and we are worse off because of it. Managed care has

>made every hospital worker a 'bottom liner', whether they want to be or

not.

>And many people are simply leaving the field, or not ever entering. Now,

>again, we have a shortage. So they'll rush some folks thru a 2 year

program,

>give 'em an A>D>, and send them out to the floors. These nurses are much

>less prepared than they used to be, in my opinion. I believe they should

>have never closed the hospital schools of nursing. Those were the best

>damned nurses!!

>Those were the nurses who always wanted to be nurses and were willing to put

>in long hours at low pay, and live in a hospital dorm in trade for a low

>tuition and the best teaching possible, right on the floors with the

patients

>and staff.

>Sometimes, progress seems regress. PhillyJude

>

>

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Thanks for the info. I swan, sometimes I think fat people get treated

differently. I don't know. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Or maybe she just wasn't

thinking. But, you know, when you asked for help, she could've at least

realized your difficulty. I am, in fact, a registered masseuse, so if you're

real nice to me . . . . . LOL : )

>>> comic@... 10/31/00 09:28AM >>>

Listen, icky story, but I have to tell it.

I had galbalder surgery 2 yrs ago, and they did the open percedure, so I had

lots of pain, and couldn't reach all my spots to wash..

Get the picture? The nurse brings in the pain of water, clean wash cloth and a

towel and says I'll be back in a little bit to pick it all up. No help, no

washing back, or under belly, or needless to say anything lower..

The problem was I was on my period, and what a mess.. I said finally I would

need a little help, please?? She came back in and washed my back... period,

nothing else..

When my husband came in a little while later I still had the cleaning stuff

there, so he washed everything else.. He is such a sweetie, did n't even

embarass him.

Where are all the good nurses these days..

they just don't care like they use to.

LOL

Just my 2cents, Trudy

backrubs

>every patient got their back washed, rubbed,

and powdered before they went to sleep!<

Oh my my,

I must be old...I remember that happening to me. Gave you a very warm and

secure feeling, like the nurses really cared. Today the nurses have too many

patients too handle or weren't taught in nursing school to do this. After

all, nursing has to be updated, but do we have to lose all the good stuff???

Hugs and Blessings,

Rose

Post-Op

Dr Shikora - Boston, MA

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