Re: lentil flour (was chick pea flour)

[Guest guest]

I'm so new that I don't know what flours are legal, but I'll ask the group

myself. Is mesquite flour by chance legal?

We have lots of mesquite trees where I live and when the bean pods are ripe

you can take the kids down the sidewalk with a bag for collecting them and take

them to the farmer's market where they grind it into mesquite flour. It's very

yummy (and free) -- is it legal?

-

zagorskygoldberg wrote:

Whoops! Yes, I know that chick peas aren't allowed--I've even made

" hommus " out of white beans. A friend asked about making chick pea

flour and I just didn't think it through before asking the group as a

whole. Sorry!

So, anyone know about making any type of flour-ish substance from

anything that IS allowed on the diet? One of my other children is

highly allergic to nuts, and being able to make baked goods, etc, that

we can all eat would be a huge help to me.

Thank you.

Ellen

9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for crohn's

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[Guest guest]

hi ellen and susan,

my daughter is fine with nut flour but i hate to overload her with

too many (plus i get sick of soaking and drying!) so i use coconut

flour also. it makes really yummy cakes and also moist bread for

preschool... its very fibrous and it is an advanced food so

introduce slowly and watch your childs stools - audrey is fine with

it in moderation now but when i first gave it to her she seemed to

have runny stools the following day.

if you are interested - i got my recipes from a cookbook by bruce

fife (cooking with coconut) and if you google it you can find recipes

online before you go and buy the cookbook.

roweena x

audrey 3.7 yrs

SCD since july 2006

Re: lentil flour (was " chick pea flour " )

Posted by: " Rob or Sunseri " RobRose@... robsusanrose

Thu Mar 1, 2007 9:56 pm (PST)

I'm so new that I don't know what flours are legal, but I'll ask the

group myself. Is mesquite flour by chance legal?

We have lots of mesquite trees where I live and when the bean pods

are ripe you can take the kids down the sidewalk with a bag for

collecting them and take them to the farmer's market where they grind

it into mesquite flour. It's very yummy (and free) -- is it legal?

-

zagorskygoldberg wrote:

Whoops! Yes, I know that chick peas aren't allowed--I've even made

" hommus " out of white beans. A friend asked about making chick pea

flour and I just didn't think it through before asking the group as a

whole. Sorry!

So, anyone know about making any type of flour-ish substance from

anything that IS allowed on the diet? One of my other children is

highly allergic to nuts, and being able to make baked goods, etc, that

we can all eat would be a huge help to me.

Thank you.

Ellen

9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for crohn's

[Guest guest]

>

Ellen, I have good news and bad news. It should be possible to make

the bean flour, but you really have to limit it per this old post from

Jody G:

I believe the process of making your own bean flour consists of

soaking the beans according to BTVC, then cooking them according to

BTVC, then putting the cooked beans in a dehydrator and drying them

out until you can turn them into a powder/flour.

All that said, beans are not recommended until well into the diet

after the intestinal tract is completely healed and I believe, even

then Elaine cautions on using too much bean flour because the starch

is so concentrated in the bean flour.

So, if you were looking into the idea of bean flour to use a staple

for your son on the SCD, it's not used that way.

,mom to

> Whoops! Yes, I know that chick peas aren't allowed--I've even made

> " hommus " out of white beans. A friend asked about making chick pea

> flour and I just didn't think it through before asking the group as a

> whole. Sorry!

>

> So, anyone know about making any type of flour-ish substance from

> anything that IS allowed on the diet? One of my other children is

> highly allergic to nuts, and being able to make baked goods, etc, that

> we can all eat would be a huge help to me.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Ellen

> 9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for crohn's

>

[Guest guest]

I actually don't know because I've never heard of it before. What a blessing

for you if it is though. Definitely ask the group. Carol, Patty, Sheila,

Charlene, and Marilyn are the big veterans, so they know a lot that some of the

rest of us don't yet.

Meleah

Re: lentil flour (was " chick pea flour " )

I'm so new that I don't know what flours are legal, but I'll ask the group

myself. Is mesquite flour by chance legal?

We have lots of mesquite trees where I live and when the bean pods are ripe

you can take the kids down the sidewalk with a bag for collecting them and take

them to the farmer's market where they grind it into mesquite flour. It's very

yummy (and free) -- is it legal?

-

zagorskygoldberg wrote:

Whoops! Yes, I know that chick peas aren't allowed--I've even made

" hommus " out of white beans. A friend asked about making chick pea

flour and I just didn't think it through before asking the group as a

whole. Sorry!

So, anyone know about making any type of flour-ish substance from

anything that IS allowed on the diet? One of my other children is

highly allergic to nuts, and being able to make baked goods, etc, that

we can all eat would be a huge help to me.

Thank you.

Ellen

9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for crohn's

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[Guest guest]

> >

> Ellen, I have good news and bad news. It should be possible to make

> the bean flour, but you really have to limit it per this old post from

> Jody G:

>

I seem to recall. Elaine decided that bean flour was too starchy and it is no

longer

recommended. She asked a company advertising it as SCD legal to remove it from

their

web site. I do need confirmation on this. White bean PASTE is allowed and there

is a recipe

in BTVC for Herb's Bean Pancakes.

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

> >

> Ellen, I have good news and bad news. It should be possible to make

> the bean flour, but you really have to limit it per this old post from

> Jody G:

>

I seem to recall. Elaine decided that bean flour was too starchy and it is no

longer

recommended. She asked a company advertising it as SCD legal to remove it from

their

web site. I do need confirmation on this. White bean PASTE was still allowed and

there is a

recipe in BTVC for Herb's Bean Pancakes. As a begiiner, it would not be a good

choice IMO.

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi Ellen,

<< Whoops! Yes, I know that chick peas aren't allowed--I've even made

> " hommus " out of white beans. A friend asked about making chick pea

> flour and I just didn't think it through before asking the group as a

> whole. Sorry!

>

> So, anyone know about making any type of flour-ish substance from

> anything that IS allowed on the diet? One of my other children is

> highly allergic to nuts, and being able to make baked goods, etc, that

> we can all eat would be a huge help to me. >>

You should be able to make your own bean/lentil flour. You'd have to

make it by first soaking,rinsing and cooking the beans/lentils

according to the instructions in BTVC. After that dehydrate and grind

them to a powder. Since removing the water from the beans/lentils will

concentrate the (legal, but advanced) starches in them you should only

use this flour sparingly. Also when you start with it only use a

little to see if your daughter is ready for this advanced item.

I made vegetable flour a couple of years ago. I peeled and cooked

carrots and squash, dehydrated them and ground them to a powder. I

double checked with Elaine and she said this was fine to use on the

diet. I was looking for something to coat marshmallows with so that my

daughter could take them to her nut free school. The squash flour

tasted very good on the marshmallows. I used a small sweeter buttercup

squash. They were a great hit for halloween because they were orange.

You can find the recipe for the marshmallows at

http://pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html under " Candy "

Sheila, SCD, Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

No, I'm sure it would not be legal. I suppose these beans from the mesquite

trees must be somewhat different from other legumes, but for SCD purposes, you'd

need to treat them as you would any other legume. In other words, they'd have to

be soaked and cooked per the instructions in BTVC.... then dried and ground

into flour. Take into account everything that Jody G. posted, which was just

re-posted here by .... from which you can see that any sort of bean is

very advanced. Only certain ones of the legume family were ever declared SCD

legal by Elaine in the first place... so it's unkown, but very likely, that the

mesquite beans are probably too starchy. Sorry 'bout that.

Patti

Re: lentil flour (was " chick pea flour " )

I'm so new that I don't know what flours are legal, but I'll ask the group

myself. Is mesquite flour by chance legal?

We have lots of mesquite trees where I live and when the bean pods are ripe

you can take the kids down the sidewalk with a bag for collecting them and take

them to the farmer's market where they grind it into mesquite flour. It's very

yummy (and free) -- is it legal?

-

zagorskygoldberg wrote:

Whoops! Yes, I know that chick peas aren't allowed--I've even made

" hommus " out of white beans. A friend asked about making chick pea

flour and I just didn't think it through before asking the group as a

whole. Sorry!

So, anyone know about making any type of flour-ish substance from

anything that IS allowed on the diet? One of my other children is

highly allergic to nuts, and being able to make baked goods, etc, that

we can all eat would be a huge help to me.

Thank you.

Ellen

9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for crohn's

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

<< I'm so new that I don't know what flours are legal, but I'll ask the

group myself. Is mesquite flour by chance legal? >>

Mesquite flours would not be legal as they contain illegal mucilaginous

polysaccharides. Sorry.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

That's such a great idea Sheila.

As far as needing flours for baking though, we're so engrained in

our thinking that baking needs flour. If you dehydrate something

(vegetable or legume) that you are just going to add wet ingredients

to for baking, why dehydrate it in the first place? Just use it in

mashed form and use less liquid in the recipe. There are many online

sources for recipes that don't require the use of flours for making

SCD-legal baked goods.

The main reason for having flours is that they have a long shelf-

life, but for SCD, that's not necessary.

But if you're coating marshmallows (yum!), then yes, you would need

flour.

Theresa (in Vancouver, Canada)

>

> Hi Ellen,

>

> << Whoops! Yes, I know that chick peas aren't allowed--I've even

made

> > " hommus " out of white beans. A friend asked about making chick

pea

> > flour and I just didn't think it through before asking the group

as a

> > whole. Sorry!

> >

> > So, anyone know about making any type of flour-ish substance from

> > anything that IS allowed on the diet? One of my other children

is

> > highly allergic to nuts, and being able to make baked goods,

etc, that

> > we can all eat would be a huge help to me. >>

>

> You should be able to make your own bean/lentil flour. You'd have

to

> make it by first soaking,rinsing and cooking the beans/lentils

> according to the instructions in BTVC. After that dehydrate and

grind

> them to a powder. Since removing the water from the beans/lentils

will

> concentrate the (legal, but advanced) starches in them you should

only

> use this flour sparingly. Also when you start with it only use a

> little to see if your daughter is ready for this advanced item.

>

> I made vegetable flour a couple of years ago. I peeled and cooked

> carrots and squash, dehydrated them and ground them to a powder.

I

> double checked with Elaine and she said this was fine to use on

the

> diet. I was looking for something to coat marshmallows with so

that my

> daughter could take them to her nut free school. The squash flour

> tasted very good on the marshmallows. I used a small sweeter

buttercup

> squash. They were a great hit for halloween because they were

orange.

> You can find the recipe for the marshmallows at

> http://pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html under " Candy "

>

> Sheila, SCD, Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for the very interesting discussion and suggestions about this. I

really appreciate it!

Ellen

9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for Crohn's

[Guest guest]

I tried making lima bean flour by soaking, cooking and dehydrating it.

It almost distroyed my food processor. The beans were too hard for

grinding.

>

> Thank you all for the very interesting discussion and suggestions

about this. I really appreciate it!

>

> Ellen

> 9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for Crohn's

>

>

[Guest guest]

" I tried making lima bean flour by soaking, cooking and dehydrating it.

It almost destroyed my food processor. The beans were too hard for

grinding. "

Wow...Were they okay to eat but when you dehydrated them they just got too

hard??? Makes me glad I'm not a fan of lima beans.

In the end, I soaked, cooked and dehydrated the beans, but didn't grind them

into flour. It was a very interesting point about why exactly would they be

used in that way as a flour substitute. I realized that it would be most

helpful for me just to have beans ready to go when I need a quick supper, since

so much of SCD food requires rather a lot of advance work. So now I have an

ace up my sleeve (aka a jar of dehydrated beans in my cupboard).

Thanks,

Ellen

9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for croh's

recognizing one year since dd first got sick. Boy, is she better

[Guest guest]

I understand. Just a note though, once redried they do not cook fast. We tried

that too.

I used to hate lima beans, now I use them as a potatoe substitute. Their

unbeatable as that. : D

ZagorskyGoldberg wrote:

" I tried making lima bean flour by soaking, cooking and dehydrating

it.

It almost destroyed my food processor. The beans were too hard for

grinding. "

Wow...Were they okay to eat but when you dehydrated them they just got too

hard??? Makes me glad I'm not a fan of lima beans.

In the end, I soaked, cooked and dehydrated the beans, but didn't grind them

into flour. It was a very interesting point about why exactly would they be used

in that way as a flour substitute. I realized that it would be most helpful for

me just to have beans ready to go when I need a quick supper, since so much of

SCD food requires rather a lot of advance work. So now I have an ace up my

sleeve (aka a jar of dehydrated beans in my cupboard).

Thanks,

Ellen

9 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for croh's

recognizing one year since dd first got sick. Boy, is she better

[Guest guest]

>

> I understand. Just a note though, once redried they do not cook fast. We

tried that too.

>

> I used to hate lima beans, now I use them as a potatoe substitute. Their

unbeatable as

that. : D

>

How long have you been on SCD?

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi " forcurley " <thisiskathys@.,

<< I tried making lima bean flour by soaking, cooking and dehydrating

it.

> It almost distroyed my food processor. The beans were too hard for

> grinding. >>

When I made vegetable flour I mashed the cooked carrots and cooked

squash and spread them thinly in the dehydrator. This let them dry

quicker and made them easier to grind. I used a coffee grinder.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

What did you use the vegetable flour for? This sounds

very exciting.

--- Sheila Trenholm wrote:

> Hi " forcurley " <thisiskathys@.,

>

> << I tried making lima bean flour by soaking,

> cooking and dehydrating

> it.

> > It almost distroyed my food processor. The beans

> were too hard for

> > grinding. >>

>

> When I made vegetable flour I mashed the cooked

> carrots and cooked

> squash and spread them thinly in the dehydrator.

> This let them dry

> quicker and made them easier to grind. I used a

> coffee grinder.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

> mom of and

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi bnana <thisiskathys,

<< What did you use the vegetable flour for? This sounds

> very exciting. >>

I used the vegetable flour to coat marshmallows. The squash flour

tasted very good with the marshmallows.

I haven't tried it but it may work as a coating for chicken etc. as a

breading.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

wow! I just bought some squash, so I'm going to try it!

Thank you!

Sheila Trenholm wrote:

Hi bnana <thisiskathys,

<< What did you use the vegetable flour for? This sounds

> very exciting. >>

I used the vegetable flour to coat marshmallows. The squash flour

tasted very good with the marshmallows.

I haven't tried it but it may work as a coating for chicken etc. as a

breading.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

mom of and

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[Guest guest]

Hi all -

Just recently to save time, I soaked some beans overnight, then rinsed them

really good and froze them in a ziplock bag. When I needed them (since I always

forget to soak overnight!) I just pulled them out of freezer and cooked them

that day.

I wanted to try to make pasta out of lentils or beans. I have a pasta maker

that someone gave me. Anyone tried this before?

Kim Ludy