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I am so exited...I just got the pachage and realise I have no idea

how to use it or when...but I really think it will be good...

I guess the one who knows a lot about it is Kim...but I am not

sure....so anyone that could help me or give a site on the web to

reasearch it....I will love the help...

Ah...torin has sinus problem since we came home from the nicu and my

husband has it all his life too...I've never had it...I guess...but

now my nose is not breathing like usual...it makes sound when I go

to sleep and i keep on paying atention to it and can't sleep...crasy

stuff...

love

val

PS: tomorrow is torin's birthday....woohoo!!!

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Hi Val,

I don't know if anyone else has responded to you yet, so I'll jump in.

Your post caught my eye because just yesterday, one of the teacher

aides at our school was telling me this awful story that happened to

her last year. Her ear drum ruptured from infection, and she was put

on many different antibiotics but nothing cleared it. She ended up in

the hospital on IV antibiotics because she ended up with a massive

sinus infection in the sinus cavity above her eyes (can't think of

the name of that sinus area). They were afraid it would go to the

brain, so that's why they admitted her.

After that, she kept getting repeat ear/sinus infections and she was

worn out. Finally, she searched the internet and read about TTO. She

added a drop of TTO to olive oil and put it in her ears. Two days

later she was fine, and has not had any problems since.

NOTE: I don't recommend putting the TTO directly into the ear because

I read a study showing that using it this way could cause hearing

loss. Instead, if you have an ear or sinus infection, put a drop of

TTO on a cotton ball and put the cotton in your ear. You can smell

the vapors and this really works and works quickly.

For lung issues, you can add drops of TTO to steamy water and inhale

the vapors (placing your face directly over the bowl of steamy

water), or many people just add TTO to a bowl of steamy water to

place by their bed at night. Be careful doing this around children or

pets. You don't want them to drink the water.

I've put TTO in those mini crockpots filled with water to help

moisten and clean the air. You can put drops of TTO into spray

bottles to use to wipe down high chairs, counters, etc. just like

you'd use Lysol.

You use eucalptus the same way that you use TTO. However, a Chinese

doctor told a woman (with CF) that I know, not to use eucalptus for

more than three days at a time for people with CF because it can

cause " heat, " which is another name for inflammation.

However, eucalptus is great for opening stuffy noses -- same

ingredient as found in Vick's Vapor Rub. So go ahead and use it in

water like the TTO, or even in the bath tub (don't get in eyes with

any oils). Just remember the 3-day rule.

Also, there is some disagreement among aromatherapy practioners and

teachers. Some say that organisms shouldn't become resistant to an

oil, some say they will -- just like antibiotics. This is one reason

we don't use the oils every day as a prophalactic. We use them when

we need them. And we use other oils, such as lavender when we WANT

them (for relaxing baths mixed with epsom salts).

I hope this helps.

Kim

> I am so exited...I just got the pachage and realise I have no idea

> how to use it or when...but I really think it will be good...

> I guess the one who knows a lot about it is Kim...but I am not

> sure....so anyone that could help me or give a site on the web to

> reasearch it....I will love the help...

> Ah...torin has sinus problem since we came home from the nicu and

my

> husband has it all his life too...I've never had it...I guess...but

> now my nose is not breathing like usual...it makes sound when I go

> to sleep and i keep on paying atention to it and can't

sleep...crasy

> stuff...

>

> love

> val

> PS: tomorrow is torin's birthday....woohoo!!!

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Dear Kim,

I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments for CF. I don't

write much but read everything, and everything you write has been good. I got

the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and (20 years) just went through 2 major

illness at Christmas without any antibiotic treatments.

But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has a lot of sinus

problems and whenever his face is swollen and he can't breath he puts TTO on

cotton (only need a little) and put it in his ears after doing this for 2 nights

he does well for a long time.

So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when was little I had

looked up this so she would have been even better. When she was a baby she did

drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she did that for about 1 1/2years and

during that time she was never sick. And it took a long for her to get sick

again.

So Thank you for everything

judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I give her!!!!

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I also have a lot of sinus problems. My sinuses have been bleeding

for over a week now. I tried using TTO on a cotton ball in my ears.

It burned and I got sores from it. I am misserable enough right now

though, to try it again. I think that it is the dry air that is

causing my nose to bleed non-stop. I have been boiling a pot of

water for three days straight. I'm going to have a big gas bill this

month. I also tried using a saline spray for about four days, but

the bleeding didn't stop.

I would appreciate any ideas.

Gale

Grandma to Abby (2yo wcf)

> Dear Kim,

> I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments for

CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you write

has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and (20

years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without any

antibiotic treatments.

> But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has a

lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he can't

breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in his

ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

> So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when was

little I had looked up this so she would have been even better. When

she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she did

that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never sick.

And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> So Thank you for everything

> judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I give

her!!!!

>

>

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If you suspect dryness to be causing the problem you can use a q-tip with just a

bit of vaseline on it and coat your nose to moisturize it. Mt pediatrician

taught me this trick when my middle son would have spontaneous blleds in the

summer when it was hot and in the winterwhen the heater was drying out the air.

Also get a humidifier to run at night at least

Maureen

danieleverettharris wrote:

I also have a lot of sinus problems. My sinuses have been bleeding

for over a week now. I tried using TTO on a cotton ball in my ears.

It burned and I got sores from it. I am misserable enough right now

though, to try it again. I think that it is the dry air that is

causing my nose to bleed non-stop. I have been boiling a pot of

water for three days straight. I'm going to have a big gas bill this

month. I also tried using a saline spray for about four days, but

the bleeding didn't stop.

I would appreciate any ideas.

Gale

Grandma to Abby (2yo wcf)

> Dear Kim,

> I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments for

CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you write

has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and (20

years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without any

antibiotic treatments.

> But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has a

lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he can't

breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in his

ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

> So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when was

little I had looked up this so she would have been even better. When

she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she did

that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never sick.

And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> So Thank you for everything

> judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I give

her!!!!

>

>

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Maureen,

Thanks for the advice. I'll go do this right now.

Gale

> > Dear Kim,

> > I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments

for

> CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you

write

> has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and (20

> years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without any

> antibiotic treatments.

> > But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has a

> lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he can't

> breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in his

> ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

> > So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when

was

> little I had looked up this so she would have been even better.

When

> she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she did

> that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never sick.

> And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> > So Thank you for everything

> > judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I

give

> her!!!!

> >

> >

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Dear Judy, thanks so much for such a nice note. I'm so happy to read

that these things are helping your daughter and husband.

Your note also serves as a reminder to me that all too often lately,

I forget to use TTO when my sinues flare up! Just last week I bought

a new bottle of gingko biloba, so I hope this restores my memory. :)

Gale, I'm really sorry to hear about your bleeding nose. It sounds

like it could be the dry air. I really sympathize. I wonder if taking

alfalfa tablets would help you? Alfalfa is rich in vitamin K, and as

you know from reading about CF, vitamin K is necessary for proper

clotting. If your intestinal flora is messed up, then your intestines

cannot properly produce adequate vitamin K (vitamin K is manufactured

in the intestines).

Doctors are learning that sinus infections are mainly fungal, not

bacterial, and people with frequent sinus infections are helped by

taking a probiotic to restore proper intestinal floral. I take

alfalfa tablets purchased from my local GNC. I take them because my

multivitamin/mineral doesn't have any K in it. takes alfalfa

tablets too.

As for the TTO on cotton balls. It's never bothered me to use it this

way. I take one giant size cotton ball, tear it in half and shake one

drop of TTO on each piece. Then I put it in my ear with the oil side

facing inward, but it doesn't touch any skin.

The first time I used TTO on my skin, I applied it directly to a zit

with a Q-Tip. It burned like holy heaven! This was pure TTO. Now, I

use a TTO that is a combo of TTO and lavender, which is much gentler

to the skin. This is what I also put in my bath water. But uses

pure TTO for inhalations.

I also have Lemon Scented TTO (LSTTO). As previously discussed on

this List, LSTTO isn't just TTO with a lemony scent, it's a specific

variety of the manuka family, and it's shown to have greater killing

power than both regular TTO and a specific fraction of manuka oil.

uses Lema oil for her family, which is a combo of both TTO and

manuka oil. Studies showed Lema oil had a good killing power when

dealing with MRSA. LSTTO also has this power.

The word " Lema " comes from simply blending the first two letters from

the latin names of manuka (Leptospermum) and TTO (Melaleuca).

Kim

Dear Kim,

I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments for

CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you write

has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and (20

years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without any

antibiotic treatments.

But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has a

lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he can't

breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in his

ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when was

little I had looked up this so she would have been even better. When

she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she did

that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never sick.

And it took a long for her to get sick again.

So Thank you for everything

judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I give

her!!!!

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Get some Polysporin (not neosporin, for some reason it doesn't have the same

affect), put it on a qtip and put it up your nasal passages. You might have to

do it once or twice, but it will make it quit sooner.

Dawn mom of 4, 7 and under, the youngest wcf

Re: I just got the TTO and Eucalyputus That I

oredered...and now..

I also have a lot of sinus problems. My sinuses have been bleeding

for over a week now. I tried using TTO on a cotton ball in my ears.

It burned and I got sores from it. I am misserable enough right now

though, to try it again. I think that it is the dry air that is

causing my nose to bleed non-stop. I have been boiling a pot of

water for three days straight. I'm going to have a big gas bill this

month. I also tried using a saline spray for about four days, but

the bleeding didn't stop.

I would appreciate any ideas.

Gale

Grandma to Abby (2yo wcf)

> Dear Kim,

> I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments for

CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you write

has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and (20

years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without any

antibiotic treatments.

> But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has a

lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he can't

breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in his

ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

> So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when was

little I had looked up this so she would have been even better. When

she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she did

that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never sick.

And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> So Thank you for everything

> judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I give

her!!!!

>

>

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Kim,

Thanks. I'll get some alfalfa from GNC tomorrow. I have also been

using the vasaline and Afrin nasal spray. It's still bleeding

today. What an unconfortable feeling to have dried blood up your

nose and sinuses.

Thanks for the advise,

Gale

> Dear Kim,

> I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments

for

> CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you

write

> has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and (20

> years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without any

> antibiotic treatments.

> But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has a

> lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he can't

> breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in his

> ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

> So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when

was

> little I had looked up this so she would have been even better.

When

> she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she did

> that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never sick.

> And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> So Thank you for everything

> judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I

give

> her!!!!

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I have some polysporin. I'll give this a try tonight. Thanks for

the advise.

Gale

> > Dear Kim,

> > I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments

for

> CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you

write

> has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and

(20

> years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without any

> antibiotic treatments.

> > But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has

a

> lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he

can't

> breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in

his

> ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

> > So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when

was

> little I had looked up this so she would have been even better.

When

> she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she

did

> that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never

sick.

> And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> > So Thank you for everything

> > judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I

give

> her!!!!

> >

> >

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Gale,

Afrin may be your problem. That has the highest rebound effect of any

spray nasal decongestant. My ENT won't even recommend its use unless

under severe circumstances, and then ONLY in diluted form (dilute

with saline). What he had me use for congestion was baby

neosynephrine mixed 1 part to 2 parts sterile saline. He said I could

use it as much as needed this way. I've used Afrin in the past and

would get rebound stuffiness within minutes. Some people get addicted

to it.

Kim

> > Dear Kim,

> > I want to thank you for knowing so much about other treatments

> for

> > CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you

> write

> > has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and

(20

> > years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without any

> > antibiotic treatments.

> > But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF) has

a

> > lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he

can't

> > breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in

his

> > ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

> > So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when

> was

> > little I had looked up this so she would have been even better.

> When

> > she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she

did

> > that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never

sick.

> > And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> > So Thank you for everything

> > judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything I

> give

> > her!!!!

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I was addicted to Afrin when I was in college, my roomate got so mad

at me, that she threw it away and told me that if she found another

bottle, she was going to throw it away, too. She was pre-med at the

time and knew better than I did, thankgoodness.

Literally, I could not breath, if I did not have Afrin, that's how

bad it was.

> > > Dear Kim,

> > > I want to thank you for knowing so much about other

treatments

> > for

> > > CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything

you

> > write

> > > has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and

> (20

> > > years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without

any

> > > antibiotic treatments.

> > > But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF)

has

> a

> > > lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he

> can't

> > > breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it

in

> his

> > > ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long

time.

> > > So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when

> > was

> > > little I had looked up this so she would have been even

better.

> > When

> > > she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice,

she

> did

> > > that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never

> sick.

> > > And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> > > So Thank you for everything

> > > judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything

I

> > give

> > > her!!!!

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Kim,

Thanks for the note. I know that Afrin is bad stuff. It was either

that or sleep with my mouth open. I only use it when I absolutely

have too. I will buy the baby neosynephrine and try mixing it with

saline. The Afrin makes my heart race. I think that the polysporin

and vasaline have also helped. The bleeding stopped today.

FINALLY!

Gale

> > > Dear Kim,

> > > I want to thank you for knowing so much about other

treatments

> > for

> > > CF. I don't write much but read everything, and everything you

> > write

> > > has been good. I got the Mg , Flaxseed,Zinc and TTO and

> (20

> > > years) just went through 2 major illness at Christmas without

any

> > > antibiotic treatments.

> > > But mostly I wanted to say my husband (who doesn't have CF)

has

> a

> > > lot of sinus problems and whenever his face is swollen and he

> can't

> > > breath he puts TTO on cotton (only need a little) and put it in

> his

> > > ears after doing this for 2 nights he does well for a long time.

> > > So thank you for everything you have learned, I wish when

> > was

> > > little I had looked up this so she would have been even

better.

> > When

> > > she was a baby she did drink carrot, celery and beet juice, she

> did

> > > that for about 1 1/2years and during that time she was never

> sick.

> > > And it took a long for her to get sick again.

> > > So Thank you for everything

> > > judy (sarah's mom) she thanks you too, as she takes anything

I

> > give

> > > her!!!!

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