Re: Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach pain/vomiting

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Cathy,

Whenever you post with a question like that, you really have got to remind us of

how long she's been on the diet. I can't go back and search through the list to

find out when she started... I have to have all that info right here in the

current message.

I'm not sure what might be going on with your daughter. I don't know if

increasing the probiotic more rapidly would help or not. You have gone very

slowly.... and I can't figure out how in the world you measure out one TWELVTH

of a capsule! I would maybe try the electrolyte drink recipe (on

www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info ... under " Knowledge Base " under " E " ), as it

should help alkalinize her system and settle her tummy.

Patti

Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach pain/vomiting

My daughter has had some stomach pain over the past month(it hasn't

been too bad...it has always went away on its own). It worsened a bit

over the past week, with vomiting this weekend.

.It wasn't acid reflex. She is doing better today..no pain..just not

hungry yet.

I am wondering if this was die-off. I don't think it was a bug as

there was no other symptoms besides being a bit tired. No one else in

the family is sick.

I started the probiotic capsule back up with her, the beginning of

January slowly increasing it 1/12 of the capsule every 10 days or so.

There has been some die-off for about 3 days or so,(ie. really tired,

crying easily,..) every time after I increase the probiotic amount.

She is up to 5/12 of the probiotic capsule daily. She also has been

taking the full dose of Green pastures fermented cod liver oil for 6

weeks now.

She is handling the probiotic very well this time.

Is there such a thing as going too slow with the probiotics?

Would increasing the probiotic , and not going so slow with it help

with regards to stomach pain/vomiting?

Thanks,

Cathy

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Sorry for not mentioning how long she as been on SCD. --Since

august..2006. We stopped the probiotics just before Christmas, after

being on a full capsule for about 1 month.

I've been using the probiotic mixture as Mimi..suggested...1 capsule

in 1/2 cup of water. 1 TB of the mixture equals 1/12 of the capsule.

We have been using the electrolyte drinks.(she won't drink much of

anything)

Cathy

>

> Cathy,

>

> Whenever you post with a question like that, you really have got to

remind us of how long she's been on the diet. I can't go back and

search through the list to find out when she started... I have to have

all that info right here in the current message.

>

> I'm not sure what might be going on with your daughter. I don't know

if increasing the probiotic more rapidly would help or not. You have

gone very slowly.... and I can't figure out how in the world you

measure out one TWELVTH of a capsule! I would maybe try the

electrolyte drink recipe (on www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info ...

under " Knowledge Base " under " E " ), as it should help alkalinize her

system and settle her tummy.

>

> Patti

>

> Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach

pain/vomiting

>

>

> My daughter has had some stomach pain over the past month(it hasn't

> been too bad...it has always went away on its own). It worsened a bit

> over the past week, with vomiting this weekend.

> .It wasn't acid reflex. She is doing better today..no pain..just not

> hungry yet.

>

> I am wondering if this was die-off. I don't think it was a bug as

> there was no other symptoms besides being a bit tired. No one else in

> the family is sick.

> I started the probiotic capsule back up with her, the beginning of

> January slowly increasing it 1/12 of the capsule every 10 days or so.

> There has been some die-off for about 3 days or so,(ie. really tired,

> crying easily,..) every time after I increase the probiotic amount.

> She is up to 5/12 of the probiotic capsule daily. She also has been

> taking the full dose of Green pastures fermented cod liver oil for 6

> weeks now.

> She is handling the probiotic very well this time.

>

> Is there such a thing as going too slow with the probiotics?

> Would increasing the probiotic , and not going so slow with it help

> with regards to stomach pain/vomiting?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Cathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, Cathy.

I am really stumped then, as to what could be causing the stomach pain and

vomiting.

It sounds like you're doing everything right with the probiotic... and you feel

she is tolerating it well? It sounds like you are sure she is.

Is she better today.... as far as the pain and/or vomiting?

Patti

Re: Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach pain/vomiting

Sorry for not mentioning how long she as been on SCD. --Since

august..2006. We stopped the probiotics just before Christmas, after

being on a full capsule for about 1 month.

I've been using the probiotic mixture as Mimi..suggested...1 capsule

in 1/2 cup of water. 1 TB of the mixture equals 1/12 of the capsule.

We have been using the electrolyte drinks.(she won't drink much of

anything)

Cathy

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Cathy,

What probiotic are you using? Have you tried the GI prohealth one?

Mimi

> Thanks, Cathy.

>

> I am really stumped then, as to what could be causing the stomach pain and

> vomiting.

>

> It sounds like you're doing everything right with the probiotic... and you

> feel she is tolerating it well? It sounds like you are sure she is.

>

> Is she better today.... as far as the pain and/or vomiting?

>

> Patti

>

> Re: Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach

> pain/vomiting

>

>

> Sorry for not mentioning how long she as been on SCD. --Since

> august..2006. We stopped the probiotics just before Christmas, after

> being on a full capsule for about 1 month.

> I've been using the probiotic mixture as Mimi..suggested...1 capsule

> in 1/2 cup of water. 1 TB of the mixture equals 1/12 of the capsule.

> We have been using the electrolyte drinks.(she won't drink much of

> anything)

> Cathy

>

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Patti,

I thought she was better this morning. No more vomiting since late

saturday...but she smells awful, moderate pain, on and off...hasn't

ate or drank much since sat afternoon...as it makes her stomach

hurt...no fever...just looks tired(a bit dehydrated)...as she hasn't

been eating or drinking much...popsicles even taste bad

She has only felt this way in the past after eating something she was

allergic to...but it never lasted for more than a day.

...Maybe it is just a virus that needs to run its course....

Cathy

>

> Thanks, Cathy.

>

> I am really stumped then, as to what could be causing the stomach

pain and vomiting.

>

> It sounds like you're doing everything right with the probiotic...

and you feel she is tolerating it well? It sounds like you are sure

she is.

>

> Is she better today.... as far as the pain and/or vomiting?

>

> Patti

>

> Re: Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach

pain/vomiting

>

>

> Sorry for not mentioning how long she as been on SCD. --Since

> august..2006. We stopped the probiotics just before Christmas, after

> being on a full capsule for about 1 month.

> I've been using the probiotic mixture as Mimi..suggested...1 capsule

> in 1/2 cup of water. 1 TB of the mixture equals 1/12 of the capsule.

> We have been using the electrolyte drinks.(she won't drink much of

> anything)

> Cathy

>

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Mimi,

I'm using Kirkmans...the legal one. We used the GI prohealth one in

nov. I think the cellulose in it was too much for her. Kirkmans has

much less in the capsule..I think It doesn't have cellulose in it.

things like carbomethyl cellulose or even cellulose in Gf bread in the

past were never tolerated by her.

cathy

> > Thanks, Cathy.

> >

> > I am really stumped then, as to what could be causing the stomach

pain and

> > vomiting.

> >

> > It sounds like you're doing everything right with the probiotic...

and you

> > feel she is tolerating it well? It sounds like you are sure she is.

> >

> > Is she better today.... as far as the pain and/or vomiting?

> >

> > Patti

> >

> > Re: Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach

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> >

> >

> > Sorry for not mentioning how long she as been on SCD. --Since

> > august..2006. We stopped the probiotics just before Christmas, after

> > being on a full capsule for about 1 month.

> > I've been using the probiotic mixture as Mimi..suggested...1 capsule

> > in 1/2 cup of water. 1 TB of the mixture equals 1/12 of the capsule.

> > We have been using the electrolyte drinks.(she won't drink much of

> > anything)

> > Cathy

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> Thanks, Cathy.

Patti,

Don't be stumped .I have answers to this.. Stomach/pain vomiting was

caused by 2 things.

1)I just found out from by daughter that she thinks she was glutenized

at school last week...apparently their are things going on in the

classroom that shouldn't be(lots of Playdoh.(flour).and no-one is

washing now etc. .)...I told the teacher what was necessary to to keep

my celiac daughter safe in the classroom...but I guess she forgot..she

is a super reactor to small traces of gluten.

I almost forget her signs of her being glutenized(I guess I was to

busy thinking about die-off)..symetrical rashs, stomach pain(many

days), constipation, floating bm's for a week or more(just started),

she starts refusing to eat(she pretty much hyperventilated over a pork

chop at lunch last week.!)

I Almost forgot that nothing can make her stomach hurt for so long,

and so bad ...nothing but traces of gluten. Her stomach still

hurts...the only way I could get her to eat or drink anything(even

just a sip) today was to medicate her...she really can't afford to

loose more weight.

2) The stomach flu is the second culprit...I have it now...I've been

pretty sick for the last 15 hrs. ..I had to get some meds for myself

or it wasn't going to stop...My daughter was hardly sick at all on

Saturday...compared to me.

The only thing that makes sense is she was contaminated by gluten and

she got the flu too.

Cathy(not on SCD)

Celiac Kids SCD since august 2006

> I am really stumped then, as to what could be causing the stomach

pain and vomiting.

>

> It sounds like you're doing everything right with the probiotic...

and you feel she is tolerating it well? It sounds like you are sure

she is.

>

> Is she better today.... as far as the pain and/or vomiting?

>

> Patti

>

> Re: Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach

pain/vomiting

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>

> Sorry for not mentioning how long she as been on SCD. --Since

> august..2006. We stopped the probiotics just before Christmas, after

> being on a full capsule for about 1 month.

> I've been using the probiotic mixture as Mimi..suggested...1 capsule

> in 1/2 cup of water. 1 TB of the mixture equals 1/12 of the capsule.

> We have been using the electrolyte drinks.(she won't drink much of

> anything)

> Cathy

>

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Cathy,

OH, NO!! Not one hit.... but TWO! Yikes!

I'm sorry you have to deal with the fallout of all of this, and being sick as a

mom is just downright unfair..... I hope you are back to normal soon.

At least now you know what's been going on..... you must be furious! Your

daughter is certainly learning to be more aware of how she feels and what's

probably caused it, isn't she?

Best wishes for a quick turnaround for both of you.

Patti

Re: Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach pain/vomiting

Patti,

Don't be stumped .I have answers to this.. Stomach/pain vomiting was

caused by 2 things.

1)I just found out from by daughter that she thinks she was glutenized

at school last week...apparently their are things going on in the

classroom that shouldn't be(lots of Playdoh.(flour).2) The stomach flu is the

second culprit...I have it now...I've been

pretty sick for the last 15 hrs. ..

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Patti,

I'm fine today.It was a good thing my parents took my son overnight as

I diffinetly couldn't of cooked for him yesterday. My daughter went

to school today but she still is not eating, and drinking little..She

still looks and smells bad. I have never seen her hit so badly with

her stomach before.

I wrote the teacher today ...surprisingly the Principal approached

me in the hall at lunch and thanked me for the note...

It looks like now they are going to take more measures to make her

safer. It is sad that she has to get so sick before they listen!

I kept her home at lunch time as I couldn't get her to eat.

I really don't like medicating the kid, but I have to get her drinking

and eating more. She is not in real pain anymore, but anything in her

stomach hurts a bit.

I'm sure everything will turn around in a couple of days...

Take Care,

Cathy

>

> Cathy,

>

> OH, NO!! Not one hit.... but TWO! Yikes!

>

> I'm sorry you have to deal with the fallout of all of this, and

being sick as a mom is just downright unfair..... I hope you are

back to normal soon.

>

> At least now you know what's been going on..... you must be

furious! Your daughter is certainly learning to be more aware of how

she feels and what's probably caused it, isn't she?

>

> Best wishes for a quick turnaround for both of you.

>

> Patti

>

> Re: Going too slow with probiotics?Stomach

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> Patti,

> Don't be stumped .I have answers to this.. Stomach/pain vomiting was

> caused by 2 things.

>

> 1)I just found out from by daughter that she thinks she was glutenized

> at school last week...apparently their are things going on in the

> classroom that shouldn't be(lots of Playdoh.(flour).2) The stomach

flu is the second culprit...I have it now...I've been

> pretty sick for the last 15 hrs. ..

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