vest vs physio

[Guest guest]

n - can you please explain the difference between autogenic and active

cycle breathing techniques? Are they alternate therapy methods for each

other or would one normally use both?

Thanks,

M

[Guest guest]

The problem is, for some kids, like mine, manual percussion is less effective.

was very unproductive with therapy, until they tried the vest on him.

That worked great, and so does the flutter valve. Sounds like the Australian

hospitals are being a bit narrow minded.

Dori Ownbey... " If I haven't grown up by now, I'm never going to. "

[Guest guest]

never brought anything up in terms of mucus unless she was sick until we

got the vest. ( And I was very vigorous with the manual pt) She doesn't bring

up much now either but when we first got the vest she was productive for about a

week or 2 until she really got rid of all the junk that was down in her lungs.

I wonder if the vest and resultant productivity is part of the reason why we

were able to get rid of PA (combined with the tobi being able to get into her

lungs better because there was less junk). After all she was bringing up a lot

of old stuff that was " down in there " at first with the vest. It just seems

like there have been quite a few independent studies in the US that show that

chest wall oscillation is at least as effective as manual pt...........I wonder

how many independent studies have been done on it in Australia or any of the

other countries where they are not using it. it would seem that they would want

to investigate it fully with a large number of CF patients with varying degrees

of productivity........... Just thinking out loud.

vest vs physio

The problem is, for some kids, like mine, manual percussion is less effective.

was very unproductive with therapy, until they tried the vest on him.

That worked great, and so does the flutter valve. Sounds like the Australian

hospitals are being a bit narrow minded.

Dori Ownbey... " If I haven't grown up by now, I'm never going to. "

[Guest guest]

Sounds like the Australian hospitals are being a bit narrow minded.

Hi,

.... and the really open minded people skip that uncomfy CPT at all. :-

))

We have stopped doing CPT six years ago and up to now we are happy

with that decision. And we are even happier that there is now a piece

of scientific " proof " , that we have done it right. Here's a recent

mail from Val Hudson.

Peace

Torsten, dad of Fiona 6wcf

I have read an interesting article in the most recent

Pediatric Pulmonology:

The article mentions research findings that " in a long

term (30 month) study of the effects of a daily

exercise program, CPT was removed after 12 months.

Results indicated that the patients either maintained

or improved their lung function after the removal of

CPT. " The authors concluded that physical exercise

should be the basis of pulmonary therapy in CF, and

that these studies provide evidence that exercise is a

viable alternative to CPT.

Sincerely, VAL

[Guest guest]

I do autogenic breathing and active cycle of breathing--learned them in

Denmark--still here--Love to all of you, n, wcf, 66

Re: vest vs physio

Sounds like the Australian hospitals are being a bit narrow minded.

Hi,

... and the really open minded people skip that uncomfy CPT at all. :-

))

We have stopped doing CPT six years ago and up to now we are happy

with that decision. And we are even happier that there is now a piece

of scientific " proof " , that we have done it right. Here's a recent

mail from Val Hudson.

Peace

Torsten, dad of Fiona 6wcf

I have read an interesting article in the most recent

Pediatric Pulmonology:

The article mentions research findings that " in a long

term (30 month) study of the effects of a daily

exercise program, CPT was removed after 12 months.

Results indicated that the patients either maintained

or improved their lung function after the removal of

CPT. " The authors concluded that physical exercise

should be the basis of pulmonary therapy in CF, and

that these studies provide evidence that exercise is a

viable alternative to CPT.

Sincerely, VAL

-------------------------------------------

The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY

be construed as medical advice.

PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS.

------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

If you would like a tape on this , i would be happy to send to you. Give me

your mailing address & I will send . There is no charge. I have quite a few

of them. to share.

LOVE & HUGS, GrandmomBEV

Re: Re: vest vs physio

n - can you please explain the difference between autogenic and active

cycle breathing techniques? Are they alternate therapy methods for each

other or would one normally use both?

Thanks,

M

-------------------------------------------

The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY

be construed as medical advice.

PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS.

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I would ove one thank you

O'Neill

10 court

Pukete

Hamiton

New Zealand

Re: Re: vest vs physio

>

>

> n - can you please explain the difference between autogenic and

active

> cycle breathing techniques? Are they alternate therapy methods for each

> other or would one normally use both?

>

> Thanks,

> M

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------------

> The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY

> be construed as medical advice.

>

> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

TREATMENTS.

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>