Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Carol, What was the final outcome of this conversation? Legal or illegal? Thanks, Amy -- In pecanbread , Carol Frilegh wrote: > > Members please note it took me over a half hour to compose a response > to at Larabar which is why I will not undertake to be the > official food investigation commandant LOL! > > Anyhow here are the results from Larabar: > > > > > Dear Carol, > > > > I apologize for not responding more quickly to your email. The reason > > for > > my delay is that I wanted to take some time to better understand the > > Specific Carbohydrate Diet and its specific dietary allowances and > > restrictions. > > > > Through my research on csdiet.org, and breakingtheviciouscycle.info I > > have > > been unable to find a specific list of dates that are acceptable for > > people > > to eat if they are on this nutrition regimen. We, here at LaraBar, > > would > > like to better understand how the SCD delineates between various date > > varieties and what makes some dates permissible to eat while others > > are not > > allowed. What allows loose California Medjool dates to be directly > > absorbed > > into the bloodstream, but not other dates? If possible, could you > > direct me > > to any specific websites or books that would explain how the sugar > > content > > of dates is vastly different and how that affects people on the > > Specific > > Dear , > The book that defines and outlines " The Specific Carbohydrate Diet is > called " Breaking the Vicious Cycle " by Elaine Gottschall. In the > chapter introducing the diet under the category of fruit it is > specified " only loose California dates are permitted. In later > clarifications and discussions on SCD discussion groups Elaine > elaborated further that they are known as Medjool dates. These are > also grown in Mexico and there is lots of information on them from the > growers' association: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~bardmedjool/ > > Medjool dates are costly. Currently in Canada they are $8.99 a pound > (Cdn.) but available in 2 lb. clear plastic tubs for less at Costco. > They contain monosaccharide sugar which requires no involved digestive > process and is directly absorbed into the bloodstream without further > damaging a compromised gut such as one finds in Celiac Disease, Crohn's > Disease or Ulcerative Colitis. I believe Gottschall designated them > specifically because she was able to establish them as suitable without > researching a myriad of other types of dates. Since Elaine's death last > summer, no one is authorized to verify any changes in her original > basic protocols. > > This diet has a wonderful track record among people with gastric > diseases and and was discovered to be helpful and effective in many > cases of autism about six or seven years ago. Our little ASD support > group alone > > pecanbread@... > > has grown from a few parents to nearly 3000 > > SCDdiet is not an official website but is helpful. > > The two official websites are: > > www.breakingthevicouscycle.info > www.pecanbread.com > > SCD for ASD states dried fruits and ground nuts are considered an > advanced food reserved for the stage when significant healing has > taken place. Adults who tolerate these foods are advised they should > be occasional. > > Our advice to newcomers is to be very cautious about any store bought > food and stick to homemade. > > We ask our members to request a HAND WRITTEN letter from the food > processor stating the ingredients, process, involvement of third party > companies and several other details before trying a processed store > bought food not already approved. > . > Unwillingness for such disclosure creates the possibility of risk. > Small infractions feed harmful bacteria and they proliferate rapidly in > the gut creating malabsorption and damaging the villi that line the > intestine. > > There is also some type of citrus water I am not sure about. All of > which explains why we needed to know more about your " little trade > secrets " when I first inquired :-) > > (One website advertising that their food is SCD compliant offers > Larabar but specifies it as only for the advanced. However we often > get requests for approval of Larabar from beginners) > > Best regards, > > Carol Frilegh > > > Carbohydrate Diet? > > > > If you could please expand upon any of this we would greatly > > appreciate your > > time. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Morrill > > ---------------------------------------- > > A l l i s o n M o r r i l l > > L Ä R A B A R ® > > PO Box 18932, Denver, CO 80218 > > direct > > toll free > > fax > > www.larabar.com > > Re: New message from website > > > > Sent to Larabar: > > > > Dear , > > People on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet can only use loose California > > Medjool dates as they are directly absorbed into the bloodstream and > > do not stress a diseased digestive system. I have no choice but to > > inform our thousands of members world wide that Larabars are not > > suitable for the diet. > > > > > > > > Dear Carol, > > Thank you for taking the time to contact us. We appreciate your > > interest in our product. > > > > We use a variety of dates in our bars. Unfortunately, I am not able to > > give specific information on the types of dates we use as this is a > > trade secret and considered proprietary information. I am sorry I > > cannot be more helpful. > > > > Thank you again for your interest in LÄRABAR! > > > > Best wishes, > > Morrill > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > A l l i s o n M o r r i l l > > > > L Ä R A B A R ® > > > > > > Name = Carol Frilegh > > Email = c.frilegh@... > > Comments = what kind of dates are in Larabars? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 > > Carol, > What was the final outcome of this conversation? Legal or illegal? > > Thanks, > Amy > I have no authority to declare Larabar legal. Dried fruit and nut pieces are for the advanced. The dates in Larabar are not California Medjool dates. I don't know what " orange blossom water " is. Each flavor of the bars contains differnt ingredients. I had a bad reaction when I tried Larabar and will not have it again. If others wish to choose to us it. it is upon their own responsiblility. You can easily make a similar bar by putting legal dates and nuts in a food processor or through a juicer blank food cone, moisten with a little honey or juice and add addtional nut and dried fruit pieces while still being aware that: a. It is OK for someone that is healed b. Elaine said not to use dried fruit frequently. This whole discussion evolved because a list member found them on a website that sells SCD baking, assumed they were legal and posted about Larabar to the list. Carol F. SCD 7 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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