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In a message dated 11/18/99 5:38:20 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

bullandbetty@... writes:

<< : I'm new to the group and so I'm wondering who you are, what your

" thyroid credentials " are, and what are your sources of information?

Thanks. >>

Hi Everyone,

I guess it's good to go over my " thyroid credentials " once in a while for

the benefit of the new members. First of all I want to stress that I'm not a

doctor and have no formal medical training. This is probably an advantage

because doctors, for some reason, seem to be discouraged in medical school

from finding nutritional causes of diseases and prefer to treat the symptoms

of diseases with drugs.

I started studying nutrition about 28 years ago for the benefit of my own

health and the health of my family members. Whenever I've gotten sick I've

gotten out the library of nutrition books and studied until I figured out

what was wrong and corrected it. Whenever I got really stumped, I'd go to my

nutritionally oriented MD and he would usually help.

Whenever I got sick my premise was that either I was not getting enough

of some nutrient or I was getting too much of some toxin. Usually my first

assumption was that I was being poisoned by something in my food or

environment because that's the way I would feel. I would usually start

eliminating the foods or supplements that disagreed with me and eventually

get into fasting, a fruit diet, or a raw food diet. These restrictive diets

always helped me when I was congested or had a cold or flu, but never seemed

to help when I had a long-term sickness.

After many years of correcting problems I have come to the conclusion

that all of my long-term illnesses have been as the result of nutritional

deficiencies, which has always been the direct opposite of what I thought

originally.

I have had both hypothyroidism (corrected by dental amalgam removal and

supplementing with zinc and selenium), and hyperthyroidism. Correcting

hyperthyroidism is not a simple thing. I got all the popular nutrition books

and tried everything. I also followed the advice from my nutritional doctor.

The situation only got worse. It seems that there is no good information

out there (Traditional Chinese Medicine being the only possible exception

that I've seen so far).

It took many months of experimentation before I finally stumbled onto the

right combination of supplements (and avoiding the wrong ones) and while I

now feel that while I know much of the story, there are still some missing

pieces (maybe a lot of them). So what I know about thyroid disease

correction has come mainly from these experiences and my subsequent studies

with members of this group and research using Medline (go to

www.Medscape.com).

Right now, besides continuing research I'm trying to consolidate the

information into an organized, readable format to enable someone with hyperT

or hypoT to get started. So far the best concise information is in the

Supplement List.

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In a message dated 5/14/2004 7:30:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, sohada@...

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i have a

suggestion. when giving out information-let's try giving a source.

Thank you for the tip!

Lee

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hi everyone,

i have a thought.

i assume that people here on this list are on it not only for their personal

interests of CI as we all spread information like its gossip! i have a

suggestion. when giving out information-let's try giving a source. i'm not

an audiologist, (my husband thinks i should be with all the knowledge i have

of it though) i'm just an occupational therapist :-). like i wonder about

Jerome..is all this knowledge you share with us objective vs. personal and

Alice, you seem so bright! are you a master in this field? :-) I appreciate

reading up on Brad's credentials too..anyways, maybe there will be more

trust in what we read..But then again, thats what the professionals mapping,

fitting, whatever..are there for, or arent they?!!

ill end here. have a good night everyone!

Re: Re: proud of CI? (Jerome - this and that)

>

> In a message dated 5/11/2004 3:13:53 AM Central Standard Time,

> jt1@... writes:

> Not surprising, since when you have louder aids, the noise will damange

> the hair cells Dear Jerome,

>

> First of all, I'd like to tell you how impressed I am that you were able

> to learn English as a second language, while obviously not having the

> proper hearing aids or any other ALD's. That's quite a feat. English is

> a very hard language to learn as a second language. My fiancee speaks 7

> languages fluently and during our travels he has tried to teach me some

> key phases that I may need in other countries. The only ones I've

> mastered so far are, Where is the toilet?

> Please, thank you, How much for that? Along with, OH NO, that's way too

> much (he told me this one was imperative for me to know, I beg to

> differ). When he speaks to other people in a foreign language, I usually

> can't tell he's speaking another language, never mind which language it

> is. So for you to be able to master the language in the way you seem to

> have done is a great accomplishment, in and of itself. You've also gone

> on to earn an advanced degree. That's super!

>

> I've read all of your posts with great interest and tried so hard to put

> myself in your shoes. I hope that you do end up with the CI you want so

> badly, sooner rather than later and that it meets and/or exceeds all

> your expectations.

> But for every thing there is a proper time and one thing to think about

> is, if you are planning to put your trust into this CI team to operate

> on your ears, handle all the pre-op, post-op, and mapping, etc., then

> maybe it's a good idea to think about also putting your trust into their

> judgment of when the CI operation should take place. If you do not feel

> comfortable with their judgment, then perhaps it would be prudent to

> find another team.

>

> There's a few things that you've posted that have disturbed me though, I

> hope you don't mind me addressing them. One was from a prior post, that

> Siemens claimed in a press release to be able to restore one's hearing

> with a hearing aid, as if they were a normal, college age student. If

> Siemens is claiming this, then someone should be after them for

> violating truth in advertising. I am not an audi, nor doctor, but I do

> NOT believe there are any artificial means of restoring normal hearing

> and feel that Siemens is doing a great disservice, not only to potential

> customers, but to the public in general.

>

> The other thing is noted above, about louder aids causing

> damage.....have you read articles or have any sources that claim that

> hearing aids actually cause damage to your hearing? I have never heard

> anything to this effect.

> Although, I know that loud noise on a consistent basis can cause hearing

> loss, I would certainly hope that a hearing aid would never be

> programmed to cause any sort of damage to the end user in this day and

> age.

>

> I'd also like to thank you for educating me. I had never heard of

> recruitment before reading your posts. So, I did lots of research on it.

> In every article I came across, it stated that most modern hearing aids

> can address recruitment with AGC (automatic gain control) so that people

> with this issue can be comfortable. Of course, you may very well fall

> into the small percentage that can't be helped, but there's no way of

> knowing without trying the aids your team is suggesting right now.

> Nothing to lose.

> Everything to gain in the long run.

>

> Good luck with everything and I wish you well in maintaining your

> patience.

>

> Best regards,

> Shirley

>

>

>

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Sohada,

When I send information that is beyond my area of expertise, I try to give the

source so that the list members can follow it thru. I am certainly not an

expert just a fairly long time CI user and a life long hard of hearing person

who is very happy with the technology of the CI. I'm also the president of a

large chapter of SHHH (just re-elected for another year) and this is where I

must become informed because my duties give me the responsibility to make sure I

have accurate information.

Alice

hi everyone,

i have a thought.

i assume that people here on this list are on it not only for their personal

interests of CI as we all spread information like its gossip! i have a

suggestion. when giving out information-let's try giving a source. i'm not an

audiologist, (my husband thinks i should be with all the knowledge i have of it

though) i'm just an occupational therapist :-). like i wonder about Jerome..is

all this knowledge you share with us objective vs. personal and Alice, you seem

so bright! are you a master in this field? :-) I appreciate reading up on Brad's

credentials too..anyways, maybe there will be more trust in what we read..But

then again, thats what the professionals mapping, fitting, whatever..are there

for, or arent they?!! ill end here. have a good night everyone!

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I'm not sure if Brad do mapping for cochlear implants, I'm sure he's an

expert with hearing aid fitting. Regarding credentials, all I know is Brad

is an authority when comes to hearing aids, I'm an engineering graduate from

Philippines, all I know about hearing aids came from personal experience and

online research and conclusion from both my past experiences and observation

from others' experience.

Being almost in the same field, he work in the industry while I have been

fooled by our local audiologist, we may have opposing views base on our

current situation and past encounters. He is hearing normal and helping

people with hearing loss while I'm bitter about my hearing loss. More or

less, I have gave you a short view of what you wanted to know.

I have inquired our local audiologist who is a professor and do mapping, was

told that not all masters in audiology have any idea how to map. So you will

be surprised if some implantees on this list know more about mapping than

some audiologists.

I was told cochlear implant mapping is a separate specialization.

By the way, with CI, I doubt we can be very objective as different people

experience different, so it's an individual thing, an individual thing is

subjective and not objective. With hearing aids, it's also the same, nothing

is objective... An individual's experience is always subjective.

Our local CI center is good and allow us to contact other CI users in the

Philippines. (with the permission of the implantee)

Regards/

Jerome

Re: credentials

hi everyone,

i have a thought.

i assume that people here on this list are on it not only for their personal

interests of CI as we all spread information like its gossip! i have a

suggestion. when giving out information-let's try giving a source. i'm not

an audiologist, (my husband thinks i should be with all the knowledge i have

of it though) i'm just an occupational therapist :-). like i wonder about

Jerome..is all this knowledge you share with us objective vs. personal and

Alice, you seem so bright! are you a master in this field? :-) I appreciate

reading up on Brad's credentials too..anyways, maybe there will be more

trust in what we read..But then again, thats what the professionals mapping,

fitting, whatever..are there for, or arent they?!!

ill end here. have a good night everyone!

Re: Re: proud of CI? (Jerome - this and that)

>

> In a message dated 5/11/2004 3:13:53 AM Central Standard Time,

> jt1@... writes:

> Not surprising, since when you have louder aids, the noise will damange

> the hair cells Dear Jerome,

>

> First of all, I'd like to tell you how impressed I am that you were able

> to learn English as a second language, while obviously not having the

> proper hearing aids or any other ALD's. That's quite a feat. English is

> a very hard language to learn as a second language. My fiancee speaks 7

> languages fluently and during our travels he has tried to teach me some

> key phases that I may need in other countries. The only ones I've

> mastered so far are, Where is the toilet?

> Please, thank you, How much for that? Along with, OH NO, that's way too

> much (he told me this one was imperative for me to know, I beg to

> differ). When he speaks to other people in a foreign language, I usually

> can't tell he's speaking another language, never mind which language it

> is. So for you to be able to master the language in the way you seem to

> have done is a great accomplishment, in and of itself. You've also gone

> on to earn an advanced degree. That's super!

>

> I've read all of your posts with great interest and tried so hard to put

> myself in your shoes. I hope that you do end up with the CI you want so

> badly, sooner rather than later and that it meets and/or exceeds all

> your expectations.

> But for every thing there is a proper time and one thing to think about

> is, if you are planning to put your trust into this CI team to operate

> on your ears, handle all the pre-op, post-op, and mapping, etc., then

> maybe it's a good idea to think about also putting your trust into their

> judgment of when the CI operation should take place. If you do not feel

> comfortable with their judgment, then perhaps it would be prudent to

> find another team.

>

> There's a few things that you've posted that have disturbed me though, I

> hope you don't mind me addressing them. One was from a prior post, that

> Siemens claimed in a press release to be able to restore one's hearing

> with a hearing aid, as if they were a normal, college age student. If

> Siemens is claiming this, then someone should be after them for

> violating truth in advertising. I am not an audi, nor doctor, but I do

> NOT believe there are any artificial means of restoring normal hearing

> and feel that Siemens is doing a great disservice, not only to potential

> customers, but to the public in general.

>

> The other thing is noted above, about louder aids causing

> damage.....have you read articles or have any sources that claim that

> hearing aids actually cause damage to your hearing? I have never heard

> anything to this effect.

> Although, I know that loud noise on a consistent basis can cause hearing

> loss, I would certainly hope that a hearing aid would never be

> programmed to cause any sort of damage to the end user in this day and

> age.

>

> I'd also like to thank you for educating me. I had never heard of

> recruitment before reading your posts. So, I did lots of research on it.

> In every article I came across, it stated that most modern hearing aids

> can address recruitment with AGC (automatic gain control) so that people

> with this issue can be comfortable. Of course, you may very well fall

> into the small percentage that can't be helped, but there's no way of

> knowing without trying the aids your team is suggesting right now.

> Nothing to lose.

> Everything to gain in the long run.

>

> Good luck with everything and I wish you well in maintaining your

> patience.

>

> Best regards,

> Shirley

>

>

>

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thanks you alice for all the wonderful expereince and knowledge you share

with us. it is truly valued!

sohada

Re: Re: credentials

> Sohada,

>

> When I send information that is beyond my area of expertise, I try to give

the source so that the list members can follow it thru. I am certainly not

an expert just a fairly long time CI user and a life long hard of hearing

person who is very happy with the technology of the CI. I'm also the

president of a large chapter of SHHH (just re-elected for another year) and

this is where I must become informed because my duties give me the

responsibility to make sure I have accurate information.

>

> Alice

>

>

> hi everyone,

> i have a thought.

> i assume that people here on this list are on it not only for their

personal interests of CI as we all spread information like its gossip! i

have a suggestion. when giving out information-let's try giving a source.

i'm not an audiologist, (my husband thinks i should be with all the

knowledge i have of it though) i'm just an occupational therapist :-). like

i wonder about Jerome..is all this knowledge you share with us objective vs.

personal and Alice, you seem so bright! are you a master in this field? :-)

I appreciate reading up on Brad's credentials too..anyways, maybe there will

be more trust in what we read..But then again, thats what the professionals

mapping, fitting, whatever..are there for, or arent they?!! ill end here.

have a good night everyone!

>

>

>

>

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thanks jerome for your input..i was wondering about you!

Re: Re: proud of CI? (Jerome - this and that)

> >

> > In a message dated 5/11/2004 3:13:53 AM Central Standard Time,

> > jt1@... writes:

> > Not surprising, since when you have louder aids, the noise will damange

> > the hair cells Dear Jerome,

> >

> > First of all, I'd like to tell you how impressed I am that you were able

> > to learn English as a second language, while obviously not having the

> > proper hearing aids or any other ALD's. That's quite a feat. English is

> > a very hard language to learn as a second language. My fiancee speaks 7

> > languages fluently and during our travels he has tried to teach me some

> > key phases that I may need in other countries. The only ones I've

> > mastered so far are, Where is the toilet?

> > Please, thank you, How much for that? Along with, OH NO, that's way too

> > much (he told me this one was imperative for me to know, I beg to

> > differ). When he speaks to other people in a foreign language, I usually

> > can't tell he's speaking another language, never mind which language it

> > is. So for you to be able to master the language in the way you seem to

> > have done is a great accomplishment, in and of itself. You've also gone

> > on to earn an advanced degree. That's super!

> >

> > I've read all of your posts with great interest and tried so hard to put

> > myself in your shoes. I hope that you do end up with the CI you want so

> > badly, sooner rather than later and that it meets and/or exceeds all

> > your expectations.

> > But for every thing there is a proper time and one thing to think about

> > is, if you are planning to put your trust into this CI team to operate

> > on your ears, handle all the pre-op, post-op, and mapping, etc., then

> > maybe it's a good idea to think about also putting your trust into their

> > judgment of when the CI operation should take place. If you do not feel

> > comfortable with their judgment, then perhaps it would be prudent to

> > find another team.

> >

> > There's a few things that you've posted that have disturbed me though, I

> > hope you don't mind me addressing them. One was from a prior post, that

> > Siemens claimed in a press release to be able to restore one's hearing

> > with a hearing aid, as if they were a normal, college age student. If

> > Siemens is claiming this, then someone should be after them for

> > violating truth in advertising. I am not an audi, nor doctor, but I do

> > NOT believe there are any artificial means of restoring normal hearing

> > and feel that Siemens is doing a great disservice, not only to potential

> > customers, but to the public in general.

> >

> > The other thing is noted above, about louder aids causing

> > damage.....have you read articles or have any sources that claim that

> > hearing aids actually cause damage to your hearing? I have never heard

> > anything to this effect.

> > Although, I know that loud noise on a consistent basis can cause hearing

> > loss, I would certainly hope that a hearing aid would never be

> > programmed to cause any sort of damage to the end user in this day and

> > age.

> >

> > I'd also like to thank you for educating me. I had never heard of

> > recruitment before reading your posts. So, I did lots of research on it.

> > In every article I came across, it stated that most modern hearing aids

> > can address recruitment with AGC (automatic gain control) so that people

> > with this issue can be comfortable. Of course, you may very well fall

> > into the small percentage that can't be helped, but there's no way of

> > knowing without trying the aids your team is suggesting right now.

> > Nothing to lose.

> > Everything to gain in the long run.

> >

> > Good luck with everything and I wish you well in maintaining your

> > patience.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Shirley

> >

> >

> >

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I am going to be calling some clinics tomorrow and was wondering if anyone knew

what credentials/trainings etc. I should be looking for to make sure they are

experienced. Thank you for your help!

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What the heck is SAD? Also Al, Please try not to be so militant in your

replies. It hurts me to read them. I know you are passionate about your

eating lifestyle but you sound really hateful in your responses and it is a

real turn off. Sounds kind of like an ex smoker talking about cigarettes.

Thanks, Belinda

PS, We wouldn't be in this group if we didn't care about our health. We all

do what we can and but pressuring people to do things your way will not get

the results you are looking for. It is more likely to drive people away from

a good source of information.

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Yes, ***please,*** let’s return to kefir discussion. It is getting so

uncomfortable to read all the hostile and preachy posts.

Belinda, SAD stands for Standard American Diet. I’m not sure what that is

though. Americans are a very diverse people and just because someone is American

doesn’t mean they eat a certain way.

From: Belinda Hunt

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:09 AM

Subject: Re: credentials

What the heck is SAD? Also Al, Please try not to be so militant in your

replies. It hurts me to read them.

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Greetings,

SAD is standard American Diet, a tad better than the British, but not

much. It is a shame we can not see each other as we communicate,

sometimes enthusiasm comes across the wrong way.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

On 7/19/2012 8:09 AM, Belinda Hunt wrote:

> What the heck is SAD? Also Al, Please try not to be so militant in your

> replies. It hurts me to read them. I know you are passionate about your

> eating lifestyle but you sound really hateful in your responses and it is a

> real turn off. Sounds kind of like an ex smoker talking about cigarettes.

>

> Thanks, Belinda

>

> PS, We wouldn't be in this group if we didn't care about our health. We all

> do what we can and but pressuring people to do things your way will not get

> the results you are looking for. It is more likely to drive people away from

> a good source of information.

>

>

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belinda and tanya,

SAD is a term coined in " Diet for a New America "

by john robbins. by SAD, he means the food

that people eat by shopping from grocery stores...

manufactured, packaged, full of chemicals, etc.

robbins is also encouraging - for the sake of

animals and for the sake of our health - a vegan

lifestyle. the book is very moving. i have met

many people whose lives were changed by

reading this book.

i hope you might pick up a copy and read it.

it is very informative and helpful.

love, patricia

On Jul 19, 2012, at 11:59 AM, wrote:

> Yes, ***please,*** let�s return to kefir discussion. It is getting so

uncomfortable to read all the hostile and preachy posts.

>

> Belinda, SAD stands for Standard American Diet. I�m not sure what that is

though. Americans are a very diverse people and just because someone is American

doesn�t mean they eat a certain way.

>

>

>

> From: Belinda Hunt

> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:09 AM

>

> Subject: Re: credentials

>

> What the heck is SAD? Also Al, Please try not to be so militant in your

> replies. It hurts me to read them.

>

>

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SAD stands for " Standard American Diet " .

It would not matter what Al was into. He would still be angry. He has an anger

problem, just like mine.

From: belinda.hunt@...

Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:09:00 -0600

Subject: Re: credentials

What the heck is SAD? Also Al, Please try not to be so militant in your

replies. It hurts me to read them. I know you are passionate about your

eating lifestyle but you sound really hateful in your responses and it is a

real turn off. Sounds kind of like an ex smoker talking about cigarettes.

Thanks, Belinda

PS, We wouldn't be in this group if we didn't care about our health. We all

do what we can and but pressuring people to do things your way will not get

the results you are looking for. It is more likely to drive people away from

a good source of information.

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Belinda,

Belinda, please forgive me... if I sound 'militant' it might be because I am a

former Army journalist. I will try to be a bit softer in my delivery. I'll try

to be more " civilian-ish " . Please know that I can't force you to do anything.

Even if I would like to spoon feed everyone to health, I can't. And they could

still refuse to swallow. I'm just hoping to educate people on healthy eating

habits, so they can heal themselves.

And its not " my " eating lifestyle, I didn't create it. I read, learn, try

things. I research a lot and read the work of many natural healers and PhD's

that have developed these diets and their diets work to heal bodies of health

problems. I've healed my body from a lot of health problems because of healthy

eating, not pharmacutical drugs or eating processed foods. Remember, there are

no diseases that can't be healed. It's heartbreaking for me to talk with people

that complain about diseases and then refuse to do what it takes. I'm just

trying to provide good information.

I'm not saying any of this to be mean.

Al

Re: credentials

What the heck is SAD? Also Al, Please try not to be so militant in your

replies. It hurts me to read them. I know you are passionate about your

eating lifestyle but you sound really hateful in your responses and it is a

real turn off. Sounds kind of like an ex smoker talking about cigarettes.

Thanks, Belinda

PS, We wouldn't be in this group if we didn't care about our health. We all

do what we can and but pressuring people to do things your way will not get

the results you are looking for. It is more likely to drive people away from

a good source of information.

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I wish it were true that there are no diseases that cannot be healed. In

addition to my oldest brother having type I diabetes, my other brother and his

son both have amyloidosis which is also incur able and genetic. There are many

diseases that cannot be healed and there are a lot of bogus cues floating around

the Internet preying on the hope of suffering people.

Lee Anne, pennsylvania

>

> Belinda,

>

> Belinda, please forgive me... if I sound 'militant' it might be because I am a

former Army journalist. I will try to be a bit softer in my delivery. I'll try

to be more " civilian-ish " . Please know that I can't force you to do anything.

Even if I would like to spoon feed everyone to health, I can't. And they could

still refuse to swallow. I'm just hoping to educate people on healthy eating

habits, so they can heal themselves.

>

> And its not " my " eating lifestyle, I didn't create it. I read, learn, try

things. I research a lot and read the work of many natural healers and PhD's

that have developed these diets and their diets work to heal bodies of health

problems. I've healed my body from a lot of health problems because of healthy

eating, not pharmacutical drugs or eating processed foods. Remember, there are

no diseases that can't be healed. It's heartbreaking for me to talk with people

that complain about diseases and then refuse to do what it takes. I'm just

trying to provide good information.

>

> I'm not saying any of this to be mean.

>

> Al

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> eating lifestyle but you sound really hateful in your responses and it is a

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> real turn off. Sounds kind of like an ex smoker talking about cigarettes.

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> PS, We wouldn't be in this group if we didn't care about our health. We all

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> do what we can and but pressuring people to do things your way will not get

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> the results you are looking for. It is more likely to drive people away from

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> a good source of information.

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