Re: Do you really want this?

[Guest guest]

This goes against EVERYTHING I've heard about Dr. R. There must be something

that isn't being told??? Any thoughts from the rest of you?

[Guest guest]

Trudy,

As we all know if we dig deep down that we as larger people not

always see things as they are. Not everyone is picking on us or thinking we

eat to much. When RR says I give you a chance at anew life and someone can

only think about or whine about giving up soda it really doesn't seem like

you are ready. I gave up diabetes and failing kidneys. Giving up soda was

nothing compared to that. Your mind set should be on What am I gaining (not

weight) not obsessing on food and drinks. After a couple of months food is

no longer your friend. You eat it to live not live to eat it. When I get

upset now (don't listen Dr. BILL) I go to 's Secrets. I used to go to

the bakery. lol

So it may sound cruel that RR said that but to him it's like a lung

transplant patient saying can I smoke? I will have a new lung can't I start

destroying that one too?

And you know what he will not rush a surgery he wants you to know that YOU

really want this. He is charming and funny BUT he is also firm on his

instructions! OK I am jumping down from the soap box.

Sorry rambling today.

Trish

[Guest guest]

I'm assuming this is an email from our " unwelcomed guest " !!! I would like to

know if this did really happen as well (although I believe in my heart that

it didn't).

[Guest guest]

I'm just sitting here in shock!!

How could something like this happen? This doesn't sound like the Dr. Rutledge

I've been hearing about for months...

Don't really know how to react to this horror story.

I am sorry for you if everything happened just as you stated, but I must admit I

am having a hard time believeing this doctor everyone has praised hold heartedly

could be this cruel, un-careing, or unprofessional.

Just my two cents..

Trudy/Indiana

MGB 11/03/00

just one week away!!

Do you really want this?

I'll probably get censored off this list for posting this but I think

it's worth reading for those who are collecting information.

______________________________________________________________________

Subj: Re: [gastricbypass] Wait until you find the right Doctor

Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:46:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: GDF45@...

To: gastricbypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com

I went thru two Doctors before I found the right one. The first one

(In North Carolina) was rude to the people who attended his clinic.

When I checked in I was asked for 3500 dollars. I was thrilled. I

thought that I was just going to meet him but I had E-mailed three

times and not gotten an answer. I had asked to have the surgery on

the same week of the clinic. I had driven with a friend for 10 hours

in pouring rain. When I signed in and was asked for such a large

amount of money I thought that he had gotten my e-mails. I asked his

staff if I was down for surgery. I was told YES! I went to the

clinic and the doctor was rude from the start. Someone asked about

insurance and he said " do I look like an insurance agent? " He

then spent two hours defending himself against some women who had

taken a web site against him. I asked about diet coke and he said " I

give you a new chance atlife and you whine about not having a diet

coke. " We were all weighed in front of the others then we saw him

one by one for five minutes. I watched his surgery on tape and was

very impressed. I had E-mailed lots of his patients and they had

been thrilled with his results. During my five minutes I begged him

to do the surgery. I had done all of the paper work and jumped thru

all of the hoops that he required. Also, I was self pay so I did not

need insurance approval. He said that he would do the surgery if his

nurse could fit me in the schedule. She said that they could do it

on Friday. I was so thrilled that I could hardly contain myself.

The next day I went and paid the hospital 11,000 dollars. I called

and gave anestheology my credit card. I went to the Durham hospital

and registered. It was all done. I called my husband to fly in from

overseas and got my children squared away.

I called my elderly parents and my friends and told them that I had

been accepted. I had the hotel hold my room and my friends room for

10 more days.My last stop was to get pre-op and post-op drugs. When

the pharmacy handed me my drugs they were 628.00 At this point I said

I would go to the hotel and see if my drug card would (hopefully)

cover some of the cost. When I got to my room, my phone's light was

blinking. I thought that it was my DAD (for the 10th time). Much to

my shock, it was DR.Rutledge's nurse. All she said was " Dr. Rutledge

has decided not to do your surgery. Pack up and go

home. " I was in shock! I called and asked to speak to Barbara (the

nurse). At first she said that I did not have all my paper work

done. I told her that I had a copy of everything and asked if I

could bring the papers to the office.The she said " No " " The Doctor

does not like this rush rush. " I started to sob and said that I had

even gone by the pharmacy. I had everything finished. How could she

be so cruel.She told me to pack up. The Doctor never called. I left

Durham sobbing. I have never seen any one play such a cruel

and unprofessional game with peoples lives and feelings. When I got

back home, my best friends said to swallow my pride, redo all of the

paper work and call and apologize to the nurse. I did all of this

and was rudely told to reapply in five months. " Will he take me in

five months? " I asked. " I don't know, " she rudely answered. I

pathetically E-mailed the doctor and asked if it was possible to be

given a surgery date. He never replied. It chills me that I was so

desperate that I would have let such a cruel, cold hearted man cut on

me. He dismissed me as if I was Nothing. I will never know why. I

really do not think that there was a problem with me

personally.Something came up in his life and I was disposable. He

dismissed me without a second thought of the cost or affect that it

would have on my life. When I called for my money I was told that

there was a 250.00 fee for the clinic.This was the first that I had

heard this. Sorry that this is so long. In hind site' I know that

thing work out for the best.

[Guest guest]

Isn't perception a funny thing? hmmmm and what date was that? Oh... didn't

say., yeah....... and unsigned too..... well like my mother always said,

consider the source.....

oh yeah, we can't,..... like I said.!...Jillian Bopeep

[Guest guest]

My only thought is this. Be she right or be she wrong, what difference?

It's over. It's her perception. It was months ago. Let's let it die.

PhillyJude

[Guest guest]

Hi Trish,

What you say is very true. Dr. R has always tried to make certain his

patients were ready for this life altering surgery. Sometimes he goes by certain

indications that tell him someone is not ready and he makes them wait. This is

not all bad....I know it seems like it at the time for the person that has to

wait, but it a person rushes into this without being ready there could be

terrible consequences. This surgery could cost you your life and giving up soft

drinks is a very small price to pay and should never come into the equation.

Everyone needs to make sure they fully understand this and all

surgeries.

Love,

Genz

metrishal@... wrote:

> Trudy,

> As we all know if we dig deep down that we as larger people not

> always see things as they are. Not everyone is picking on us or thinking we

> eat to much. When RR says I give you a chance at anew life and someone can

> only think about or whine about giving up soda it really doesn't seem like

> you are ready. I gave up diabetes and failing kidneys. Giving up soda was

> nothing compared to that. Your mind set should be on What am I gaining (not

> weight) not obsessing on food and drinks. After a couple of months food is

> no longer your friend. You eat it to live not live to eat it. When I get

> upset now (don't listen Dr. BILL) I go to 's Secrets. I used to go to

> the bakery. lol

> So it may sound cruel that RR said that but to him it's like a lung

> transplant patient saying can I smoke? I will have a new lung can't I start

> destroying that one too?

> And you know what he will not rush a surgery he wants you to know that YOU

> really want this. He is charming and funny BUT he is also firm on his

> instructions! OK I am jumping down from the soap box.

>

> Sorry rambling today.

> Trish

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. I am 1 month post-op and certainly NO ONE in his office was at all

rude. They were rushed and tired, but always cordial and helpful. Barbara

is the greatest. Dr. R. has a shorthand way of speaking at times that you

have to think twice about what he means, but I have never had more support

from a doctor.

It is hard to believe that this really happened. Was anyone else there that

day that was treated in this way.

Betty in WNC

Re: Do you really want this?

>I'm assuming this is an email from our " unwelcomed guest " !!! I would like

to

>know if this did really happen as well (although I believe in my heart that

>it didn't).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ditto to that, JIll

Ditto to that! LOL

Trudy

Re: Do you really want this?

Isn't perception a funny thing? hmmmm and what date was that? Oh... didn't

say., yeah....... and unsigned too..... well like my mother always said,

consider the source.....

oh yeah, we can't,..... like I said.!...Jillian Bopeep

[Guest guest]

Trudy: This sounds more like some LT stuff to me. I dont put much stock in

anything that someone does not sign their name too. Wunderbird? sounds LT all

the way. Phyllis

Alan Strong wrote:

> I'm just sitting here in shock!!

> How could something like this happen? This doesn't sound like the Dr. Rutledge

I've been hearing about for months...

> Don't really know how to react to this horror story.

> I am sorry for you if everything happened just as you stated, but I must admit

I am having a hard time believeing this doctor everyone has praised hold

heartedly could be this cruel, un-careing, or unprofessional.

> Just my two cents..

> Trudy/Indiana

> MGB 11/03/00

> just one week away!!

> Do you really want this?

>

> I'll probably get censored off this list for posting this but I think

> it's worth reading for those who are collecting information.

> ______________________________________________________________________

>

> Subj: Re: [gastricbypass] Wait until you find the right Doctor

> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:46:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> From: GDF45@...

> To: gastricbypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com

>

> I went thru two Doctors before I found the right one. The first one

> (In North Carolina) was rude to the people who attended his clinic.

> When I checked in I was asked for 3500 dollars. I was thrilled. I

> thought that I was just going to meet him but I had E-mailed three

> times and not gotten an answer. I had asked to have the surgery on

> the same week of the clinic. I had driven with a friend for 10 hours

> in pouring rain. When I signed in and was asked for such a large

> amount of money I thought that he had gotten my e-mails. I asked his

> staff if I was down for surgery. I was told YES! I went to the

> clinic and the doctor was rude from the start. Someone asked about

> insurance and he said " do I look like an insurance agent? " He

> then spent two hours defending himself against some women who had

> taken a web site against him. I asked about diet coke and he said " I

> give you a new chance atlife and you whine about not having a diet

> coke. " We were all weighed in front of the others then we saw him

> one by one for five minutes. I watched his surgery on tape and was

> very impressed. I had E-mailed lots of his patients and they had

> been thrilled with his results. During my five minutes I begged him

> to do the surgery. I had done all of the paper work and jumped thru

> all of the hoops that he required. Also, I was self pay so I did not

> need insurance approval. He said that he would do the surgery if his

> nurse could fit me in the schedule. She said that they could do it

> on Friday. I was so thrilled that I could hardly contain myself.

> The next day I went and paid the hospital 11,000 dollars. I called

> and gave anestheology my credit card. I went to the Durham hospital

> and registered. It was all done. I called my husband to fly in from

> overseas and got my children squared away.

> I called my elderly parents and my friends and told them that I had

> been accepted. I had the hotel hold my room and my friends room for

> 10 more days.My last stop was to get pre-op and post-op drugs. When

> the pharmacy handed me my drugs they were 628.00 At this point I said

> I would go to the hotel and see if my drug card would (hopefully)

> cover some of the cost. When I got to my room, my phone's light was

> blinking. I thought that it was my DAD (for the 10th time). Much to

> my shock, it was DR.Rutledge's nurse. All she said was " Dr. Rutledge

> has decided not to do your surgery. Pack up and go

> home. " I was in shock! I called and asked to speak to Barbara (the

> nurse). At first she said that I did not have all my paper work

> done. I told her that I had a copy of everything and asked if I

> could bring the papers to the office.The she said " No " " The Doctor

> does not like this rush rush. " I started to sob and said that I had

> even gone by the pharmacy. I had everything finished. How could she

> be so cruel.She told me to pack up. The Doctor never called. I left

> Durham sobbing. I have never seen any one play such a cruel

> and unprofessional game with peoples lives and feelings. When I got

> back home, my best friends said to swallow my pride, redo all of the

> paper work and call and apologize to the nurse. I did all of this

> and was rudely told to reapply in five months. " Will he take me in

> five months? " I asked. " I don't know, " she rudely answered. I

> pathetically E-mailed the doctor and asked if it was possible to be

> given a surgery date. He never replied. It chills me that I was so

> desperate that I would have let such a cruel, cold hearted man cut on

> me. He dismissed me as if I was Nothing. I will never know why. I

> really do not think that there was a problem with me

> personally.Something came up in his life and I was disposable. He

> dismissed me without a second thought of the cost or affect that it

> would have on my life. When I called for my money I was told that

> there was a 250.00 fee for the clinic.This was the first that I had

> heard this. Sorry that this is so long. In hind site' I know that

> thing work out for the best.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree... a little hard to believe. I'm thinking that there's more to this

story than was told. Considering everything I've read, and all the praise

(and there's been A LOT of praise), some people even stating, " I love that

man. " I feel certain something happened that's not being told. First off,

she stated that her friend told her to apologize and she did. FOR WHAT?

According to the post, she didn't have anything to apologize for. So, she

apologized for not doing anything wrong????!! Just don't add up. All I have

to say is: There's two sides to every story. I haven't saw any other posts

even remotely like this. AND that brings up question ... so where's all the

other's that was in clinic that day??!!??? Hmmmmm. Interesting, huh???!!!

Strange that they didn't post anything, don't you think??? Think about it,

before you go believing that woman's e-mail. Too many other's spoke to

highly of Dr. R for me to believe what that woman said.

Bells

[Guest guest]

Hi Bells,

The thing I don't quite get is she was surprised to learn she had to pay

$255 for her clinic visit with Dr.R. The clinic visit charge is not a

secret......if you see the Doc one on one you pay. The same goes with the fee

Dr.R charges for surgery.....why was that such a surprise????? Obviously her

research was not thorough enough and this was probably very apparent to the good

Doc. It doesn't sound to me like she was very prepared.

It takes all kinds in this world and hopefully we all learn from our

mistakes as well as others. If this was a legitimate post I think the lady

should have done her homework better.

Love,

Genz

WadeAndShelley@... wrote:

> I agree... a little hard to believe. I'm thinking that there's more to this

> story than was told. Considering everything I've read, and all the praise

> (and there's been A LOT of praise), some people even stating, " I love that

> man. " I feel certain something happened that's not being told. First off,

> she stated that her friend told her to apologize and she did. FOR WHAT?

> According to the post, she didn't have anything to apologize for. So, she

> apologized for not doing anything wrong????!! Just don't add up. All I have

> to say is: There's two sides to every story. I haven't saw any other posts

> even remotely like this. AND that brings up question ... so where's all the

> other's that was in clinic that day??!!??? Hmmmmm. Interesting, huh???!!!

> Strange that they didn't post anything, don't you think??? Think about it,

> before you go believing that woman's e-mail. Too many other's spoke to

> highly of Dr. R for me to believe what that woman said.

>

> Bells

>

>