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> >

> > > I just gotta say one thing.....and I hope this comes out right.

I

> > > get how this thread is talking about exposing our kids to all

kind

> > > of experiences so that they can learn to deal and cope.......

> > >

> > > But,,,,,is there anyone out there, other than us, that has let

their

> > > child just " be " and seen good things?

> > >

> > > We not only pulled him from traditional school for this last

> > > grade,,,,,,, but I don't put him in anything he doesn't want to

try.

> > >

> > > He goes to the pool when he wants....or stays home if he

doesnt'

> > > want to go. He rides bikes......or not. He takes our dog for a

> > > walk with his ltl sis,,,,,,,,, or not. We go to church.

> > >

> > > We visit friends..... ......... ..some days are hermit-

> > > days......others are wonderful.

> > > He doesn't freak like he used to,,,,as if he was " coming down "

from

> > > interaction or having to keep it " together " all day.

> > >

> > > He talks to us. He's calmer.

> > > I guess we took a different approach.... .in a way. Maybe it

was

> > > because the social stuff he " got " was all negative,,,, ,that we

saw

> > > that not everyone enjoys being social.....

> > >

> > > I love to stay home. Love to see friends,,,but love to get home.

> > > Not all of us have " social " jobs........ .........

> > >

> > > So,,,,,I'm wondering if anyone else just lets their kid " be "

with AS

> > > and doesn't try to mold it into something better for them.

(Please

> > > don't take that wrong......cause I struggle from time to time

with

> > > whether we should still be going to therapists, etc. I stopped

> > > them, too, cause we were told to always be " getting out there "

and

> > > playing with more and more other kids to get experience on how

to

> > > " be " . We saw that Ian was nicer than most of the kids we were

> > > supposed to put him with. Sure,,,,,,,he talked aobut his

> > > games.....whatever, ,,,, but he was nicer. Ick.

> > >

> > > Anyway,,,,I hope I didn't offend. Just wondering if there were

> > > " others " like us.

> > >

> > > Hee hee.

> > >

> > >

> > > Robin

> > >

> > > Normal is just a cycle on a washing machine!!

>

Hey robin, I guess we are like that also. Maybe somewhere in the

middle. We like to be home too. We dont have alot of friends and I

guess thats because we became so obssessed with dx our son that we

lost touch with our friends or they lost touch with us but either way

we dont do a whole lot. Collin does have a few friends that he is

really close with and as long as he hangs with them a few times a

week I am fine with that. I also dont push him into things he does

not want to do. He tried soccer, hated it. He tried baseball hated

it, he did basketball for 3 years but was no good and his last year

he was just not into it at all so he doesnt do that anymore. He

loves bowling and we do that quite a bit. There is an afterschool

program 3 times throughout the school year and he is on the team all

3 times. Its on wednesdays after school and he has 2 other friends

on his team and he really enjoys it. The only rule we have is that

if you choose to start something you have to finish it cause its not

fair to your other teammates. I know he is not going to be an

athelete and Im not worried about it and neither is he. Well I take

that back he loves wrestling and wwe and raw and his friends are all

really into it and this is something him and his dad do together, and

he swears he is going to become a famous wrestler and who knows maybe

he will. Ha Ha. Hes so skinny I cant see it ! Ha Ha The only time I

really step in and get concerned is if he doesnt have anyone over for

more than 3 days in a row I try to get him to call a friend and have

them come over cause sometimes he can get into his own world and stay

there for long periods of time and I dont think that is healthy so if

a friend cant come over than we go bowling. Collin has a phobia of

leaving the house unless it is with me or his dad and it is hard for

him to just go with his dad and leave me most of the time. He has

severe seperation anxiety from me but we are working on it and it is

getting better. I have his two older sisters pick one day a week to

do something with him and take him somewhere even if its only for a

half hour he goes just cause its not healthy for him to be with me

24/7.He is getting better. I love having him around me but the

doctors tell me its time to cut the apron strings he is going to be

ten and he needs to not depend on me so much. I would like to see

him go to his friends houses once in a while because they always have

to come here because he gets anxiety at the thought of leaving home

and going to their houses but we are working on it. I dont like to

push him I find that by letting him do things his own way works

better for all of us. Im sure once he gets over that anxiety and goes

to someones house one time and finds out how fun it is he will start

doing it more often. I actually like the fact that my house is the

hang out house because that way I can keep my eye on things and know

whats going on. But anyway that is how we operate around the old

homestead pretty boring I guess. So just do what feels good for you

and your family, You dont have to do things the way someone else

does them. Whos to say their way is the right way? Basically, I

feel as though you know what works for your family so do what works.

LOL

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That's awesome that your kids are doing so well. It's wierd, ya know? When we were taking him here and there and trying to "acclimate" him,,,,,,,,,,,,it was physically exhausting and WE felt that we were constantly banging our head against the wall. Therapy would go well but we'd hear at the end, that "we still have to work on getting some friends over" or whatever it was. I understood this,,,,I did,,,,,,,but I kept thinking in my head that doing what the therapist said,,,,,wasn't what Ian wanted or needed. And I don't mean that Ian was spoiled and just didn't want to do it. He was uncomfortable. He honestly wasn't feeling 'safe'....if you know what I mean.

When we stopped all of it.......it stopped being physically exhausting and became emotionally trying.......because even though I know with all of my heart this is best for him......to just let him be who he is,,,,no matter what his troubles may someday be,,,,,it is hard for me (or maybe everyone), to see something/someone who has an issue/problem and not want to fix it. To make it better. I think it may be human nature.

SO,,,,,,,for US to sit by and just say, "Ian is Ian......"........well,,,,,it's hard....but right for us.

I hope I said that all right. I also want to reitterate that I'm talking aobut what's good for us.........so I hope I don't offend anyone. Not intending to.

From: Donna <AWEtismaol (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: torn Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 4:10 PM

My son rides the Special Ed bus, and so far (where is that wood?) there has been absolutely no teasing that I've seen. He's only going into 2nd grade, so perhaps it is coming.I like the protection it brings. The 2 ladies on the bus will guard these kids with their lives. Plus...the bus pulls right in my circle driveway. Thank you very much!I don't honestly know if my son would make it on the "real" bus, plus we are a tad bit too close to the school for him to ride it legitimately. So far, so good here.Donna

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Sue...

How long has your son been in college?

Also,,,,,ya know,,,,don't you find the "problem" with them not socializing as OUR problem,,,,,,and not theirs? Hee hee.

It's hard to get past, isn't it?

Maybe I'm the one who should be seeing people.........to get okay with the fact that we all have diffeerent levels of need as far as socially..........hmmmmmm.....

Robin

From: Sue Ann <iamgr8ful@...>Subject: ( ) Re: torn Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 2:10 PM

Robin and Donna,It appears I'm in the same 'boat' as you two. My 18 yr old son soundsvery much like Robin's. And, like Donna, our son loves to travel onfamily vacations.I struggle with feeling sad that he doesn't socialize, other thanfamily and church and, rarely, someone his own age group. It waseasier in high school as it was a very small school and he belonged tothe academic team and such. But this first year of college has beenrough. I had always hoped he'd find it easier by the time he got tocollege.At the same time, I'm not sure he 'misses' socializing. He enjoys hisown company and reads, has a strict exercise routine (yes,OCD-ish) ,and loves his animals. And like Robin mentioned, he doesn't get those'mild freak-outs' after forced social situations.How do you ever know if you are doing the right thing? We have justdecided to stay informed, pray/meditate and have faith that it

willunfold as it should.And I am grateful for this comforting forum.sue> > > I just gotta say one thing.....and I hope this comes out right. I > > get how this thread is talking about exposing our kids to all kind > > of experiences so that they can learn to deal and cope.......> >> > But,,,,,is there anyone out there, other than us, that has let their > > child just "be" and seen good things?> >> > We not only pulled him from traditional school for this last > > grade,,,,,,, but I don't put him in anything he doesn't want to

try.> >> > He goes to the pool when he wants....or stays home if he doesnt' > > want to go. He rides bikes......or not. He takes our dog for a > > walk with his ltl sis,,,,,,,,, or not. We go to church.> >> > We visit friends..... ......... ..some days are hermit- > > days......others are wonderful.> > He doesn't freak like he used to,,,,as if he was "coming down" from > > interaction or having to keep it "together" all day.> >> > He talks to us. He's calmer.> > I guess we took a different approach.... .in a way. Maybe it was > > because the social stuff he "got" was all negative,,,, ,that we saw > > that not everyone enjoys being social.....> >> > I love to stay home. Love to see friends,,,but love to get home.> > Not all of us have "social" jobs........ .........> >>

> So,,,,,I'm wondering if anyone else just lets their kid "be" with AS > > and doesn't try to mold it into something better for them. (Please > > don't take that wrong......cause I struggle from time to time with > > whether we should still be going to therapists, etc. I stopped > > them, too, cause we were told to always be "getting out there" and > > playing with more and more other kids to get experience on how to > > "be". We saw that Ian was nicer than most of the kids we were > > supposed to put him with. Sure,,,,,,,he talked aobut his > > games.....whatever, ,,,, but he was nicer. Ick.> >> > Anyway,,,,I hope I didn't offend. Just wondering if there were > > "others" like us.> >> > Hee hee.> >> >> > Robin> >> > Normal is just a cycle on a washing

machine!!

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I agree, Roxanna.

I think what a parent does greatly depends on the extent of the AS. It could be much worse with my son. He loves to do his own thing, yet doesnt' have too much trouble with dealing with things if he has to. He's always dressed himself.....can make his own food, etc.........I do wonder about the DRIVE to do things on his own someday. THere seems to be very little DRIVE. I hope to instill some DRIVE by example, I guess, as he ages. I've taken him to school with me a few times to show him dorms and all of the things that will be offered to him. To show him how different classrooms will be. That it will be up to him, ya know? He would say things like, "Cool,,,,hey,,,do you think they have hookups for tv so I can bring my XBox?"............God help me. Ha ha.

From: Donna <AWEtismaol (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: torn Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 4:10 PM

My son rides the Special Ed bus, and so far (where is that wood?) there has been absolutely no teasing that I've seen. He's only going into 2nd grade, so perhaps it is coming.I like the protection it brings. The 2 ladies on the bus will guard these kids with their lives. Plus...the bus pulls right in my circle driveway. Thank you very much!I don't honestly know if my son would make it on the "real" bus, plus we are a tad bit too close to the school for him to ride it legitimately. So far, so good here.Donna

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Totally agree.

I know many of us have said this before,,,,but it seems as though they have such incredible self esteem. Totally happy with themselves.

But,,,,yes,,,,,,,they have to be able to function in daily life some day.

Ah............that's a work in progress. hee hee.

Robin and Donna,It appears I'm in the same 'boat' as you two. My 18 yr old son soundsvery much like Robin's. And, like Donna, our son loves to travel onfamily vacations.I struggle with feeling sad that he doesn't socialize, other thanfamily and church and, rarely, someone his own age group. It waseasier in high school as it was a very small school and he belonged tothe academic team and such. But this first year of college has beenrough. I had always hoped he'd find it easier by the time he got tocollege.At the same time, I'm not sure he 'misses' socializing. He enjoys hisown company and reads, has a strict exercise routine (yes,OCD-ish) ,and loves his animals. And like Robin mentioned, he doesn't get those'mild freak-outs' after forced social situations.How do you ever know if you are doing the right thing? We have justdecided to stay informed, pray/meditate and have faith that it

willunfold as it should.And I am grateful for this comforting forum.sue> > > I just gotta say one thing.....and I hope this comes out right. I > > get how this thread is talking about exposing our kids to all kind > > of experiences so that they can learn to deal and cope.......> >> > But,,,,,is there anyone out there, other than us, that has let their > > child just "be" and seen good things?> >> > We not only pulled him from traditional school for this

last > > grade,,,,,,, but I don't put him in anything he doesn't want to try.> >> > He goes to the pool when he wants....or stays home if he doesnt' > > want to go. He rides bikes......or not. He takes our dog for a > > walk with his ltl sis,,,,,,,,, or not. We go to church.> >> > We visit friends..... ......... ..some days are hermit- > > days......others are wonderful.> > He doesn't freak like he used to,,,,as if he was "coming down" from > > interaction or having to keep it "together" all day.> >> > He talks to us. He's calmer.> > I guess we took a different approach.... .in a way. Maybe it was > > because the social stuff he "got" was all negative,,,, ,that we saw > > that not everyone enjoys being social.....> >> > I love to stay home. Love to see friends,,,but love to get

home.> > Not all of us have "social" jobs........ .........> >> > So,,,,,I'm wondering if anyone else just lets their kid "be" with AS > > and doesn't try to mold it into something better for them. (Please > > don't take that wrong......cause I struggle from time to time with > > whether we should still be going to therapists, etc. I stopped > > them, too, cause we were told to always be "getting out there" and > > playing with more and more other kids to get experience on how to > > "be". We saw that Ian was nicer than most of the kids we were > > supposed to put him with. Sure,,,,,,,he talked aobut his > > games.....whatever, ,,,, but he was nicer. Ick.> >> > Anyway,,,,I hope I didn't offend. Just wondering if there were > > "others" like us.> >> > Hee hee.> >> >>

> Robin> >> > Normal is just a cycle on a washing machine!!

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So true, ...

I'm with you on the "3 day thing".....if it's been a few,,,,,he has to call someone.

We like bowling too. And,,,,,,,rollerskating. They love it!!!!!

From: gina <ginak1117@...>Subject: ( ) Re: torn Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 10:06 PM

> > > > > I just gotta say one thing.....and I hope this comes out right. I > > > get how this thread is talking about exposing our kids to all kind > > > of experiences so that they can learn to deal and cope.......> > >> > > But,,,,,is there anyone out there, other than us, that has let their > >

> child just "be" and seen good things?> > >> > > We not only pulled him from traditional school for this last > > > grade,,,,,,, but I don't put him in anything he doesn't want to try.> > >> > > He goes to the pool when he wants....or stays home if he doesnt' > > > want to go. He rides bikes......or not. He takes our dog for a > > > walk with his ltl sis,,,,,,,,, or not. We go to church.> > >> > > We visit friends..... ......... ..some days are hermit- > > > days......others are wonderful.> > > He doesn't freak like he used to,,,,as if he was "coming down" from > > > interaction or having to keep it "together" all day.> > >> > > He talks to us. He's calmer.> > > I guess we took a different approach.... .in a way. Maybe it was > >

> because the social stuff he "got" was all negative,,,, ,that we saw > > > that not everyone enjoys being social.....> > >> > > I love to stay home. Love to see friends,,,but love to get home.> > > Not all of us have "social" jobs........ .........> > >> > > So,,,,,I'm wondering if anyone else just lets their kid "be" with AS > > > and doesn't try to mold it into something better for them. (Please > > > don't take that wrong......cause I struggle from time to time with > > > whether we should still be going to therapists, etc. I stopped > > > them, too, cause we were told to always be "getting out there" and > > > playing with more and more other kids to get experience on how to > > > "be". We saw that Ian was nicer than most of the kids we were > > > supposed

to put him with. Sure,,,,,,,he talked aobut his > > > games.....whatever, ,,,, but he was nicer. Ick.> > >> > > Anyway,,,,I hope I didn't offend. Just wondering if there were > > > "others" like us.> > >> > > Hee hee.> > >> > >> > > Robin> > >> > > Normal is just a cycle on a washing machine!!>Hey robin, I guess we are like that also. Maybe somewhere in the middle. We like to be home too. We dont have alot of friends and I guess thats because we became so obssessed with dx our son that we lost touch with our friends or they lost touch with us but either way we dont do a whole lot. Collin does have a few friends that he is really close with and as long as he hangs with them a few times a week I am fine with that. I also dont push him into things he does not want to do. He

tried soccer, hated it. He tried baseball hated it, he did basketball for 3 years but was no good and his last year he was just not into it at all so he doesnt do that anymore. He loves bowling and we do that quite a bit. There is an afterschool program 3 times throughout the school year and he is on the team all 3 times. Its on wednesdays after school and he has 2 other friends on his team and he really enjoys it. The only rule we have is that if you choose to start something you have to finish it cause its not fair to your other teammates. I know he is not going to be an athelete and Im not worried about it and neither is he. Well I take that back he loves wrestling and wwe and raw and his friends are all really into it and this is something him and his dad do together, and he swears he is going to become a famous wrestler and who knows maybe he will. Ha Ha. Hes so skinny I cant see it ! Ha Ha The

only time I really step in and get concerned is if he doesnt have anyone over for more than 3 days in a row I try to get him to call a friend and have them come over cause sometimes he can get into his own world and stay there for long periods of time and I dont think that is healthy so if a friend cant come over than we go bowling. Collin has a phobia of leaving the house unless it is with me or his dad and it is hard for him to just go with his dad and leave me most of the time. He has severe seperation anxiety from me but we are working on it and it is getting better. I have his two older sisters pick one day a week to do something with him and take him somewhere even if its only for a half hour he goes just cause its not healthy for him to be with me 24/7.He is getting better. I love having him around me but the doctors tell me its time to cut the apron strings he is going to be ten and he

needs to not depend on me so much. I would like to see him go to his friends houses once in a while because they always have to come here because he gets anxiety at the thought of leaving home and going to their houses but we are working on it. I dont like to push him I find that by letting him do things his own way works better for all of us. Im sure once he gets over that anxiety and goes to someones house one time and finds out how fun it is he will start doing it more often. I actually like the fact that my house is the hang out house because that way I can keep my eye on things and know whats going on. But anyway that is how we operate around the old homestead pretty boring I guess. So just do what feels good for you and your family, You dont have to do things the way someone else does them. Whos to say their way is the right way? Basically, I feel as though you know what works for your family so

do what works. LOL

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>> Autism Happens

> Re: ( ) Re: torn

>

>

> I just gotta say one thing.....and I hope this comes out

right. I get how this thread is talking about exposing our kids to

all kind of experiences so that they can learn to deal and cope.......

>

> But,,,,,is there anyone out there, other than us, that has

let their child just " be " and seen good things?

>

> We not only pulled him from traditional school for this

last grade,,,,,,,but I don't put him in anything he doesn't want to

try.

>

> He goes to the pool when he wants....or stays home if he

doesnt' want to go. He rides bikes......or not. He takes our dog

for a walk with his ltl sis,,,,,,,,,or not. We go to church.

>

> We visit friends................some days are hermit-

days......others are wonderful.

> He doesn't freak like he used to,,,,as if he was " coming

down " from interaction or having to keep it " together " all day.

>

> He talks to us. He's calmer.

> I guess we took a different approach.....in a way. Maybe

it was because the social stuff he " got " was all negative,,,,,that we

saw that not everyone enjoys being social.....

>

> I love to stay home. Love to see friends,,,but love to get

home.

> Not all of us have " social " jobs.................

>

> So,,,,,I'm wondering if anyone else just lets their

kid " be " with AS and doesn't try to mold it into something better for

them. (Please don't take that wrong......cause I struggle from time

to time with whether we should still be going to therapists, etc. I

stopped them, too, cause we were told to always be " getting out

there " and playing with more and more other kids to get experience on

how to " be " . We saw that Ian was nicer than most of the kids we were

supposed to put him with. Sure,,,,,,,he talked aobut his

games.....whatever,,,,, but he was nicer. Ick.

>

> Anyway,,,,I hope I didn't offend. Just wondering if there

were " others " like us.

>

> Hee hee.

>

>

> Robin

Hi Robin,

I'm glad you wrote this post. I'm doing that too. I do treat the

kids biomedically because based on their lab results, there have been

some very serious issues that were causing them a lot of distress.

I am actively caring for their bodies by doing that though, not

attempting to cure them of autism (although it really has been

miraculous in that regard... but it's never my goal, when choosing a

particular treatment.)

As for the other stuff, I am a very attachment, holistic type of

parent. I could never force either of my kids to do something

because other kids/people should/can do it. Our rules here are

listen to your body, listen to your feelings, be safe, and be kind.

That's it. No time outs, no behavior therapies, no consequences of

any sort.

Here is the amazing thing. I have the most perfect children in the

world (seriously, I'm not saying that arrogantly). They clean up

after themselves 100% of the time without me asking, they say please

and thank you to everyone, they never get in trouble, my daughter's

school is so convinced she can't possibly have autism because she's

so well behaved and polite that they called CPS (see other posts),

and my son is the only child in his school - he's in a self contained

autism program for severe children - without a behavior plan. He

doesn't even have a reference to a single behavior on his entire

IEP. I feel like letting them be and meeting their needs the best I

can, and validating their frustration that I can't always meet every

need and definitely not everything they want, has worked beautifully

for us. We are hoping to adopt another autistic child soon so I'll

see how it works with a child who wasn't raised that way from birth I

guess. I can't imagine it doesn't feel wonderful to have life be how

you need it though.

I'm a single parent with only the 2 autistic kids so I think I'm in a

unique position to be able to have our lives revolve so much around

the kids' needs, and I definitely do not have time for myself or get

enough sleep, so it's not entirely a rose garden. I don't mean to

suggest this is how anyone else should do things at all, but I did

just want to reply because I don't see much of that in real life and

it's nice to hear from someone else who's trying this approach with

some success.

Amy

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Hi,

My son is 18 and starts his sophomore year in college next month.

He really wants to major in a subject that is not offered at any of

the local universities. But, I know he feels unable to move away (it

would be a 10 hr drive to the closest college program)on his own. I

find myself wondering what to do about this, or if anything can be done.

And, yes, I wonder how much of the worrying and stress is 'my

problem'. He used to say things about when he 'gets married and has

kids', etc. And now I think he's prepared himself that it may not

happen. And it makes me so sad! I want to ask him if it makes him

sad, but I usually get a 'I don't know' to those open-ended questions.

Ugh! And then I feel guilty about making this all about 'me' and my

feelings! Aha, it's time to push myself back into the positive, again.

sue

>

> From: Sue Ann <iamgr8ful@...>

> Subject: ( ) Re: torn

>

> Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 2:10 PM

>

>

>

>

> Robin and Donna,

> It appears I'm in the same 'boat' as you two. My 18 yr old son sounds

> very much like Robin's. And, like Donna, our son loves to travel on

> family vacations.

> I struggle with feeling sad that he doesn't socialize, other than

> family and church and, rarely, someone his own age group. It was

> easier in high school as it was a very small school and he belonged to

> the academic team and such. But this first year of college has been

> rough. I had always hoped he'd find it easier by the time he got to

> college.

> At the same time, I'm not sure he 'misses' socializing. He enjoys his

> own company and reads, has a strict exercise routine (yes,OCD-ish) ,

> and loves his animals. And like Robin mentioned, he doesn't get those

> 'mild freak-outs' after forced social situations.

> How do you ever know if you are doing the right thing? We have just

> decided to stay informed, pray/meditate and have faith that it will

> unfold as it should.

> And I am grateful for this comforting forum.

> sue

>

>

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See,,,,,I think someday,,,or maybe I HOPE,,,,that someday, he will be self-sufficient. And, yes, he has AS.

Do you not think a person with AS can become self-sufficient without therapies?

We talk about life with him all the time. Jobs,,,school, apartments,,,,wives...etc. Hopefully, he'll have some of it all...........but at the same time,,,he has no more therapy.

I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about AS as this specific difference for our kids or as a wide variety of differences............I mean,,,there are co-morbid differences also,,,,and I know you know that (I'm not trying to insult)........there are kids who have toilet issues and those who were potty trained at 2. Those that cook all the time and those who we wouldn't trust at the stove. Those who can't wait to drive and those who don't want to........ever. Those who are very verbal about all that they know and who tell the world about it and those who could care a less about anything other than Runescape or other RPG's. Those who are violent and those who are tender-hearted.

All of these can have AS.

Ugh.....

Robin

From: Donna <AWEtismaol (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: torn Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 4:10 PM

My son rides the Special Ed bus, and so far (where is that wood?) there has been absolutely no teasing that I've seen. He's only going into 2nd grade, so perhaps it is coming.I like the protection it brings. The 2 ladies on the bus will guard these kids with their lives. Plus...the bus pulls right in my circle driveway. Thank you very much!I don't honestly know if my son would make it on the "real" bus, plus we are a tad bit too close to the school for him to ride it legitimately. So far, so good here.Donna

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I am torn with which decision to make. My daughter has been in a Danmar helmet

since August 7th and will be graduating on January 14th. She will be 14 months

old and they discontinue treatment at that age. At our visit in November Camille

measured .7 off. That is nothing compared to where we started and I was

confident that they would take the helmet off then. I was and still am thrilled

with her head shape. The specialist stated that we could take her out if we

wanted, but we could leave it on and hopefully catch the next growth spurt and

be as close to fully corrected as possible. That is what we did.

So.......for the last 2 days Camille has been ripping at her helmet and trying

desperately to take it off, which is something that she has never done. I took

it off to make sure that there were no pressure spots which there was not. After

examining the helmet there are wrinkles on the inside in the forehead area which

is in indicator that it is not fitting properly. You can see that all the area

that was previously " hollowed out " is now filled in making me believe that we

caught the final growth spurt.

So.....my delimma is do I make the long hike to have a helmet adjusted for a

mere 24 days of wear??? Or shall I make it an early Christmas present and just

take it off and be done with it?

When / if you comment, please keep in mind that it is not a matter of needing

every bit of correction we can get.

Thank you

Hooper

Camille Hooper 13 months

Danmar helemet since August 7th graduating January 14th