high fevers....HELP....?

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I really need some encouragement. My little Autistic daughter has had a really

tough sinus infx. for over 6 weeks now. I decided to go ahead and give her the

UNDA #'s for kidney flush and help with bringing her fever on so that she can

burn it out. I am now caring for a baby with a high fever and am scared. I have

never encountered her to have this high of a fever without using tylenol. I know

the stuff is poisonous. How can I make her comfy until it's over? How long will

it last for? Before she went to bed, she barely had one at all so, it's fast

rising up to 104.6 now. Please be here for me guys. Jenn L

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Have you tried bringing it down with a lukewarm bath? Remember that you don't

want her to shiver because that can actually cause the fever to go up, so just

keep the water teppid. Dress her in a T-shirt and her underwear or pull up, and

just cover her with a light blanket. Again, watch her for shivering, and give

her another light cover if she does shiver. Remember too, that medication has

its place. Certainly, people use meds way more than they need to, but meds can

help in a serious situation. Six weeks for a sinus infection is a long time,

and I think you tried just about everything before you did the flush. It may be

that she will require the use of an antibiotic to get rid of this. I do not say

this lightly. The other thing that concerns me is the high fever. Too high of

a fever can cause seizures. I think she is already proned to them, if I am

remembering correctly, but you certainly want to be cautious about high fever

enducing one. Is she taking fluids? That would be my other concern. My 3yr

old had mono and strep when he was 2yrs. old. His fever was getting so high,

and he wouldn't eat or drink for several days because he felt so crummy. We

finally took him to the ER on a weekend for fluids on the advice of my friend

that is a nurse. It is amazing how water can bring a fever down. They gave him

the first bag of fluids, and he went from completely lethargic to sitting up

with only about a 101 temp(that was from 105). They gave the second bag of

fluids, and he had no fever, was laughing and playing, ect. He was able to

fight it off after that, and recovered quickly...he had already had an

antibiotic injection at the ped.'s office a few days before, but it wasn't able

to do its job because he was so dehydrated. Anyway, I am concerned that you

keep the fever under control. Keep us posted. I'll check my email frequently

today, and we'll pray for K in a couple of minutes when we do our family prayers

this morning.

Meleah

high fevers....HELP....?

I really need some encouragement. My little Autistic daughter has had a really

tough sinus infx. for over 6 weeks now. I decided to go ahead and give her the

UNDA #'s for kidney flush and help with bringing her fever on so that she can

burn it out. I am now caring for a baby with a high fever and am scared. I have

never encountered her to have this high of a fever without using tylenol. I know

the stuff is poisonous. How can I make her comfy until it's over? How long will

it last for? Before she went to bed, she barely had one at all so, it's fast

rising up to 104.6 now. Please be here for me guys. Jenn L

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Her fever just lowered on it's own to under 102* on it's own. I was hoping she

would sweat it out & it would go away completely. Thank you by the way for

returning email at this difficult time. She was shivering laying in bed until I

covered her with an extra blanket then she took a nap for about an hour. That's

when her fever lowered. She is in a pull-up & t-shirt already. That's pretty

much what she wears to bed every pm. She has had the seizures in her sleep for

the past 3 nights. They just came back after 3 years. She is drinking like a

fish and eating a lot of ice cubes, popsickles, bone broth. She still has a

fever which does concern me. I will be able to speak with her ND in about an

hour. I'm not as scared as I was but, praying really helped me. Thanks again,

I'll keep you posted. Thanks, Jenn L

robin wrote: Have you tried bringing it down

with a lukewarm bath? Remember that you don't want her to shiver because that

can actually cause the fever to go up, so just keep the water teppid. Dress her

in a T-shirt and her underwear or pull up, and just cover her with a light

blanket. Again, watch her for shivering, and give her another light cover if she

does shiver. Remember too, that medication has its place. Certainly, people use

meds way more than they need to, but meds can help in a serious situation. Six

weeks for a sinus infection is a long time, and I think you tried just about

everything before you did the flush. It may be that she will require the use of

an antibiotic to get rid of this. I do not say this lightly. The other thing

that concerns me is the high fever. Too high of a fever can cause seizures. I

think she is already proned to them, if I am remembering correctly, but you

certainly want to be cautious about high fever

enducing one. Is she taking fluids? That would be my other concern. My 3yr old

had mono and strep when he was 2yrs. old. His fever was getting so high, and he

wouldn't eat or drink for several days because he felt so crummy. We finally

took him to the ER on a weekend for fluids on the advice of my friend that is a

nurse. It is amazing how water can bring a fever down. They gave him the first

bag of fluids, and he went from completely lethargic to sitting up with only

about a 101 temp(that was from 105). They gave the second bag of fluids, and he

had no fever, was laughing and playing, ect. He was able to fight it off after

that, and recovered quickly...he had already had an antibiotic injection at the

ped.'s office a few days before, but it wasn't able to do its job because he was

so dehydrated. Anyway, I am concerned that you keep the fever under control.

Keep us posted. I'll check my email frequently today, and we'll pray for K in a

couple of minutes when we do our

family prayers this morning.

Meleah

high fevers....HELP....?

I really need some encouragement. My little Autistic daughter has had a really

tough sinus infx. for over 6 weeks now. I decided to go ahead and give her the

UNDA #'s for kidney flush and help with bringing her fever on so that she can

burn it out. I am now caring for a baby with a high fever and am scared. I have

never encountered her to have this high of a fever without using tylenol. I know

the stuff is poisonous. How can I make her comfy until it's over? How long will

it last for? Before she went to bed, she barely had one at all so, it's fast

rising up to 104.6 now. Please be here for me guys. Jenn L

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Oh, I'm so glad to hear that. Why do you think the seizures have returned? Are

you nearing a common die off time frame(3mths. SCD, 6mths. SCD)?

Meleah

high fevers....HELP....?

I really need some encouragement. My little Autistic daughter has had a really

tough sinus infx. for over 6 weeks now. I decided to go ahead and give her the

UNDA #'s for kidney flush and help with bringing her fever on so that she can

burn it out. I am now caring for a baby with a high fever and am scared. I have

never encountered her to have this high of a fever without using tylenol. I know

the stuff is poisonous. How can I make her comfy until it's over? How long will

it last for? Before she went to bed, she barely had one at all so, it's fast

rising up to 104.6 now. Please be here for me guys. Jenn L

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I think the seizures have returned because we are getting down to the layers of

illness that we have always supressed in the past. They are trying to return her

body to normal by resetting it I think. I KNOW this is due to die-off. I don't

think it has anything to do with yeast though. We've been plugging away on SCD

since May 17, 2005. You see, after the yeast is the viruses or during. And, they

are so much harder to fight than the yeast I think. I was never explained to

about this. I think some would give up if they were told that the killing the

yeast is just the beginning in autism healing. I just recently read something on

latent viruses on another group and wanted to try an anti-viral. I added the OLE

and increased over a few days time. She started to have the die-off and I didn't

want to push it due to her trying to fight a virus as it was already. I didn't

want the die-off to be too terrible for her but after watching her endure this

long illness, I wanted her to be

done with it. So, I added in copper from the compendium. I think this is what

did it for us. I see this as the greatest help we've ever had! I know others

would think I'm crazy about letting her temp. get that high. I took a class with

Sheri Nakken(homeopath) online and she taught me that a fever is present to

assist the body in burning out the bugs. She also said that even if a fever gets

high enough to induce a seizure, there is no lasting damage. And, a fever cannot

get over 106*. Not giving her the Motrin or tylenol was the best thing for her.

Her fever is now @ 101.2 Has gone down considerably. Waiting for this all to be

over though. Thank you for being here for me.

Jenn L bin wrote:

Oh, I'm so glad to hear that. Why do you think the seizures have

returned? Are you nearing a common die off time frame(3mths. SCD, 6mths. SCD)?

Meleah

high fevers....HELP....?

I really need some encouragement. My little Autistic daughter has had a really

tough sinus infx. for over 6 weeks now. I decided to go ahead and give her the

UNDA #'s for kidney flush and help with bringing her fever on so that she can

burn it out. I am now caring for a baby with a high fever and am scared. I have

never encountered her to have this high of a fever without using tylenol. I know

the stuff is poisonous. How can I make her comfy until it's over? How long will

it last for? Before she went to bed, she barely had one at all so, it's fast

rising up to 104.6 now. Please be here for me guys. Jenn L

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Jen,

I'd really like to know more of what you've learned about the viral issues, and

what to do about it. iel's DAN started him on Valtrex at the first of the

year because his inflammation levels were nearly off the charts. He's got

serious viral problems even though the viral titers came back normal...which I'm

not surprised about one bit. It's been about 10 days since starting Valtrex,

and we've had no healing regression(behavioral, fever, ect.). I have seen some

language gains that are good, but I just wonder how much of the virals are being

shed without the expression of them. I guess OLE is olive leaf extract? That's

a natural antiviral? What other naturals are there, and how much do you start

with? I'd never heard that a fever cannot go over 106 before. What about the

thing about getting too high of a fever causing death? Myth...old wives' tale?

I hadn't heard that the seizures won't cause permanent damage before. I would

really like to get moving with driving these viruses out of iel. We've

cleaned up the yeast and bacterial overgrowth, and I am ready to move on.

Personally, I'm willing to deal with whatever it takes to heal my son. God will

not allow me to deal with more than I can handle. Please tell me what you know

about the natural antiviral treatments.

Meleah

high fevers....HELP....?

I really need some encouragement. My little Autistic daughter has had a really

tough sinus infx. for over 6 weeks now. I decided to go ahead and give her the

UNDA #'s for kidney flush and help with bringing her fever on so that she can

burn it out. I am now caring for a baby with a high fever and am scared. I have

never encountered her to have this high of a fever without using tylenol. I know

the stuff is poisonous. How can I make her comfy until it's over? How long will

it last for? Before she went to bed, she barely had one at all so, it's fast

rising up to 104.6 now. Please be here for me guys. Jenn L

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Do you use Coconut oil? That is also a natural anti-viral as well as OLE,

germanium, copper & some others. I simply refused the Valtrex because of the

long & short term side effects. I think these kids are way too overburdened with

meds. & such. The natural way is the best way to go. We have tried Nystatin for

yeast. I talked to so many other parents of ASD kids about it. Almost all of

them said the yeast returned when they stopped the Nystatin. That means we have

some mutated yeast that's going to be even harder to kill off the next time

around. What will we need in the end? A nuclear bomb? No way! I refused to

continue to give it to her. She has virtually no yeast problems with the all

naturals we've been doing and SCD for 20 months. The fevers are helping to rid

their bodies of these toxins. We actually need them in order to get better.

Especially with the viruses. If you want to try the OLE, start with 1/4 cap.

usually works better on an empty stomach. Fevers cannot

cause death. Complications from fevers can though. Like dehydration for

instance. Please give me your email addy. I will send you a couple of things

about fevers and starting out slowly with any supp. Isn't Valtrex suppose to

target some kinds of viruses? Well, what about those that the Valtrex doesn't

touch. You may have to do both if you are doing the Valtrex. And, the more

toxins we have in our bodies, the higher the fevers have to go to burn it all

out. Valtrex could be suppressive in this instance and not actually doing the

whole job. We can't let our kids grow up with these viruses. What if they wanted

to detox or use anti-virals when they are older? First, they might not work if

we're doing stronger ones first. Second, the detox will actually be much worse

off for them at that time. I am very worried about doing this for myself due to

the fact that I have always suppressed everything up until now. Antibiotics is

another thing. We will NEVER use them again unless it

is life-threatening. It has contributed to K having the intestinal dysbiosis.

Now, what were we suppose to use for that? You see. it's like a merry-go-round.

The all-natural stuff is necessary, IMO. Send me your addy and I will send you

some info. & good luck with your son. Jenn & K robin

wrote: Jen,

I'd really like to know more of what you've learned about the viral issues, and

what to do about it. iel's DAN started him on Valtrex at the first of the

year because his inflammation levels were nearly off the charts. He's got

serious viral problems even though the viral titers came back normal...which I'm

not surprised about one bit. It's been about 10 days since starting Valtrex, and

we've had no healing regression(behavioral, fever, ect.). I have seen some

language gains that are good, but I just wonder how much of the virals are being

shed without the expression of them. I guess OLE is olive leaf extract? That's a

natural antiviral? What other naturals are there, and how much do you start

with? I'd never heard that a fever cannot go over 106 before. What about the

thing about getting too high of a fever causing death? Myth...old wives' tale? I

hadn't heard that the seizures won't cause permanent damage before. I would

really like to get moving with driving these

viruses out of iel. We've cleaned up the yeast and bacterial overgrowth,

and I am ready to move on. Personally, I'm willing to deal with whatever it

takes to heal my son. God will not allow me to deal with more than I can handle.

Please tell me what you know about the natural antiviral treatments.

Meleah

high fevers....HELP....?

I really need some encouragement. My little Autistic daughter has had a really

tough sinus infx. for over 6 weeks now. I decided to go ahead and give her the

UNDA #'s for kidney flush and help with bringing her fever on so that she can

burn it out. I am now caring for a baby with a high fever and am scared. I have

never encountered her to have this high of a fever without using tylenol. I know

the stuff is poisonous. How can I make her comfy until it's over? How long will

it last for? Before she went to bed, she barely had one at all so, it's fast

rising up to 104.6 now. Please be here for me guys. Jenn L

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My personal email is

rmcorner@...

My home address is

Meleah Corner

9121 Cedar River Road

Huntersville, NC 28078

Thanks. I am going to go get some OLE today. I do have coconut oil. I gave

him a spoonful one day, and he didn't have any reaction...not that I think he

would get sick after one bit. I know some parents report that it gives their

kids tummy aches, but not so for him. What about the other antivirals that you

mentioned? Should you give those, too, or just start with one to see if it

works? I guess you should probably use my private email, so we don't take up

space in the files with this OT discussion. Thanks for helping me out with

this. I am anxious to get this viral " cleanse " moving.

Meleah

high fevers....HELP....?

I really need some encouragement. My little Autistic daughter has had a really

tough sinus infx. for over 6 weeks now. I decided to go ahead and give her the

UNDA #'s for kidney flush and help with bringing her fever on so that she can

burn it out. I am now caring for a baby with a high fever and am scared. I have

never encountered her to have this high of a fever without using tylenol. I know

the stuff is poisonous. How can I make her comfy until it's over? How long will

it last for? Before she went to bed, she barely had one at all so, it's fast

rising up to 104.6 now. Please be here for me guys. Jenn L

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Copper can be a very problematic supplement for many kids on the

spectrum, since a good number have a toxic burden of copper already.

It can also make mercury issues worse. My son was copper deficient and

did need it, though he's in the minority.

Rene

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> Do you use Coconut oil? That is also a natural anti-viral as well as

OLE, germanium, copper & some others.

[Guest guest]

That's funny. I met 3 moms today online that said the same exact thing about

their ASD kids needing copper. I really distrust testing. I would be more opt to

believe that there is an error in the testing than to believe all these moms

would be wrong. I am a strong believer in momm's intuition. Jenn & K

joshisims wrote: Copper can be a very problematic

supplement for many kids on the

spectrum, since a good number have a toxic burden of copper already.

It can also make mercury issues worse. My son was copper deficient and

did need it, though he's in the minority.

Rene

>

> Do you use Coconut oil? That is also a natural anti-viral as well as

OLE, germanium, copper & some others.

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[Guest guest]

My son has high copper levels, so that is definitely one that I knew not to use.

What brands of OLE do people use? I had my husband pick a bottle up at GNC this

afternoon, but it says that it contains 80-90% grain alcohol. I'm guessing I

need to return this one? So, what brand can I trust, and where do I get it?

Meleah

Re: high fevers....HELP....?

Copper can be a very problematic supplement for many kids on the

spectrum, since a good number have a toxic burden of copper already.

It can also make mercury issues worse. My son was copper deficient and

did need it, though he's in the minority.

Rene

>

> Do you use Coconut oil? That is also a natural anti-viral as well as

OLE, germanium, copper & some others.

[Guest guest]

Sometimes a tiny bit of copper supplementation will tip the body to rid itself

of it and in turn flush out some of the excess. Our bodies know how to heal

themselves. Jenn L

robin wrote: My son has high copper levels, so

that is definitely one that I knew not to use. What brands of OLE do people use?

I had my husband pick a bottle up at GNC this afternoon, but it says that it

contains 80-90% grain alcohol. I'm guessing I need to return this one? So, what

brand can I trust, and where do I get it?

Meleah

Re: high fevers....HELP....?

Copper can be a very problematic supplement for many kids on the

spectrum, since a good number have a toxic burden of copper already.

It can also make mercury issues worse. My son was copper deficient and

did need it, though he's in the minority.

Rene

>

> Do you use Coconut oil? That is also a natural anti-viral as well as

OLE, germanium, copper & some others.