Re:was Is elli's legal? now: juice vs fruit?

[Guest guest]

Is this one of the reasons why juicing is so important VS eating the whole

fruit? (Besides easier to digest) Sure don't want to feed any bad microbes!

No one in our family has diarrhea problems so I thought the juicing was not

essential - but now I'm thinking we need a juicer. The thought of juiced veggies

is a complete turn off to me, but juiced fruit I can envision I'm also

thinking I might get our son to take one swallow of juice compared to getting

him to eat fruit. I'm having to change my thinking about juice - I've always

thought that eating the whole fruit was better for you / more wholesome,

natural, etc. hence, we do not drink juice around here. But I've read about

the benefits of juicing for helping the body detoxify too.

Can diarrhea problems turn up after starting the diet - when the book talks

about " do this or don't do that " until the diarrhea clears, can the diarrhea be

caused by die off / clearing out the junk in the gut ? Or is this in reference

to people that already have diarrhea?

W. SCD Jan 2007

Zachariah age 12, dyslexic

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From: Sheila Trenholm

It probably isn't a good idea to use this pulp especially for newbies.

When you remove all the good stuff in the juice (vitamins, minerals..)

you'll be left with concentrated cellulose. This concentrated

cellulose can feed the harmful microbes we're trying to starve.

Sheila, SCD Feb., 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

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[Guest guest]

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<<Is this one of the reasons why juicing is so important VS eating the whole

fruit? (Besides easier to digest) Sure don't want to feed any bad microbes!>>

You don't have to juice. If you do use juices at all, home-juicing is the

safest way to ensure you have zero additives or illegals, that's all. With apple

juice, this seems to be the easiest way. Always dilute.

It is actually preferred to be eating whole, PEELED and COOKED fruits, in the

beginning.

<<Can diarrhea problems turn up after starting the diet>> << can the diarrhea be

caused by die off / clearing out the junk in the gut ? >>

Yes.... it can be from die-off, and should be temporary.

<<- when the book talks about " do this or don't do that " until the diarrhea

clears, Or is this in reference to people that already have diarrhea? >>

Yes, the diet was created for people with GI disorders like colitis and Crohn's

disease, who usually have diarrhea issues.

Patti

[Guest guest]

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> Is this one of the reasons why juicing is so important VS eating the whole

fruit? (Besides

easier to digest) Sure don't want to feed any bad microbes!

>

,

I have a great juicer, the Omega and do not use it for juice lately. I eat the

whole fruit and

lots of cooked vegetables.

I use my juicer for several other functions , making sherbet from frozen pieces

of fresh

fruit, making " truffles " by grinding nuts and dried fruit.

Right now I am not eating many calorie dense foods so it's idle.

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

>

> Is this one of the reasons why juicing is so important VS eating the whole

fruit? (Besides

easier to digest) Sure don't want to feed any bad microbes!

>

,

I have a great juicer, the Omega and do not use it for juice lately. I eat the

whole fruit and

lots of cooked vegetables.

I use my juicer for several other functions , making sherbet from frozen pieces

of fresh

fruit, making " truffles " by grinding nuts and dried fruit.

Right now I am not eating many calorie dense foods so it's idle.

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

These are Elaine's instructions:

Elaine wanted us to wait until brisk D was over before trying the raw

juices. She wanted us to be sure to dilute them.

If you are a beginner to SCD then you need to use a traditional juicer

rather than a blender or a Vitamix. The Vitamix and the blender do not

eliminate the difficult to digest parts. You probably have to wait a

couple of months before using a Vitamix or a blender for making juice

from raw veggies or fruits.

Mimi

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> >

> > Is this one of the reasons why juicing is so important VS eating the whole

> fruit? (Besides

> easier to digest) Sure don't want to feed any bad microbes!

> >

> ,

> I have a great juicer, the Omega and do not use it for juice lately. I eat

> the whole fruit and

> lots of cooked vegetables.

>

> I use my juicer for several other functions , making sherbet from frozen

> pieces of fresh

> fruit, making " truffles " by grinding nuts and dried fruit.

>

> Right now I am not eating many calorie dense foods so it's idle.

>

> Carol F.

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>

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[Guest guest]

One more thing about juicing, the juicers that spin the juice really fast

destroy the enzymes in the juice. By leaving the pulp out you are leaving

out the part your body has to work to digest. The juice can be completely

digested in 20 minutes and all those nutrients from the fruits and

vegetables are readily available for your body to absorb. There are some

great books on juicing that tell you what kind of things to juice for

different ailments. Carrot/apple juice is a healthy and tasty one.

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now: juice vs fruit?

These are Elaine's instructions:

Elaine wanted us to wait until brisk D was over before trying the raw

juices. She wanted us to be sure to dilute them.

If you are a beginner to SCD then you need to use a traditional juicer

rather than a blender or a Vitamix. The Vitamix and the blender do not

eliminate the difficult to digest parts. You probably have to wait a

couple of months before using a Vitamix or a blender for making juice

from raw veggies or fruits.

Mimi

>

> >

> > Is this one of the reasons why juicing is so important VS eating the

whole

> fruit? (Besides

> easier to digest) Sure don't want to feed any bad microbes!

> >

> ,

> I have a great juicer, the Omega and do not use it for juice lately. I eat

> the whole fruit and

> lots of cooked vegetables.

>

> I use my juicer for several other functions , making sherbet from frozen

> pieces of fresh

> fruit, making " truffles " by grinding nuts and dried fruit.

>

> Right now I am not eating many calorie dense foods so it's idle.

>

> Carol F.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

<< Is this one of the reasons why juicing is so important VS eating

the whole fruit? (Besides easier to digest) Sure don't want to feed

any bad microbes! >>

No, this isn't a reason why juicing is important over eating a whole

fruit. I was explaining that eating the pulp that has the juice (and

natural enzymes) removed gives too large a concentration of

cellulose. Large amounts of concentrated cellulose like this are

harder to digest and are more likely to end up feeding some nasty

microbes.

Juicing is good, *if* you are able to tolerate the juices. Newbies

should always start with diluted juices - because it's a big " hit "

of natural sugars and can be tough on those with bowel issues. BUT

eating whole fruit and veggies is also very important. The pulp when

eating as a whole food, and not juice, provides bulk necessary for

the formation of stool. For those unable to tolerate raw fruits and

veggies, peeled and cooked fruit and vegetables are still a good

source of important nutrients.

<< Can diarrhea problems turn up after starting the diet - when the

book talks about " do this or don't do that " until the diarrhea

clears, can the diarrhea be caused by die off / clearing out the junk

in the gut ? Or is this in reference to people that already have

diarrhea? >>

In the book I believe that that refernce is to those who already have

diarrhea. However, you can develop diarrhea as a result of die off

as the toxins of the starving microbes leave the body.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

mom of and