Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Fiona, That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier. (Adelaide) vest in australia For all of you in Australia, I sent an e-mail to the vest people - .... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will be available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? The physios here have never even mentioned the vest. Fiona _________________________________________________________________ Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ------------------------------------------- The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY be construed as medical advice. PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS. ------------------------------------ _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Yeah I agree with you and I can't understand why they might not consider using them in the hospital when they are so short staffed. They didn't have any physios over Xmas New Year. And it would really help if you had a little one that struggled alot during physio and for school camps / trips with friends etc. Jack absolutely hates sitting still so I have to catch him when he is really tired - usually right on dinner time! and I end up doing all the physio myself. Fiona > >Reply-To: cfparents >To: <cfparents > >Subject: RE: vest in australia >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:39:50 +1030 > >Fiona, > >That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually >doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to >different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as >it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now >Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier. > > (Adelaide) > > vest in australia > > >For all of you in Australia, > >I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > >... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom >is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for >every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and >compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of >assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to >you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will >be >available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience >and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > >I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? >The >physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > >Fiona > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click >here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > >------------------------------------------- >The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY >be construed as medical advice. > >PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR >TREATMENTS. > >------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 You know , you have hit on a possibility for the company(either one) might use to help getting them to be sold there. Your countries KNOW that the USA has researched & found they are " safe " , etc. You don't have a company there that having them would be put out of business------so , If the vest company would offer to GIVE each (CF) clinic hospital there one to use FREE in your country, for an exchange right to sell to those who can afford. them... Maybe in a short time, they would see how they really help save them $$ by preventing more illness---.THEY MIGHT AGREE AND eventually pay for them in the medical plan of the country...... FOLKS should ban together & all write the government folks in charge of medical issues AND the vest companies. Address etc. are all on line...... bless you. i sure do hope someone will take the ball on that & throw at them!! Good luck!! That's how we got some insurance companies to pay here......threatened to stay in hospital & get treatments .about 40-75 thousand a 10-14 day stay........... BUT with the vest , those stays , either stopped-- or lessened greatly. They did it to save themselves $$$$$$$$$$$ LOVE & HUGS, GrandmomBEV vest in australia > > >For all of you in Australia, > >I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > >... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom >is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for >every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and >compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of >assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to >you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will >be >available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience >and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > >I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? >The >physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > >Fiona > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click >here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > >------------------------------------------- >The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY >be construed as medical advice. > >PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR >TREATMENTS. > >------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 , Does the PEP do as good as manual percussions? Gale > Fiona, > > That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually > doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to > different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as > it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now > Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier. > > (Adelaide) > > vest in australia > > > For all of you in Australia, > > I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > > ... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom > is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for > every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and > compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of > assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to > you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will > be > available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience > and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > > I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? > The > physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > > Fiona > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click > here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > > ------------------------------------------- > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR > TREATMENTS. > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I think that PEP is good, but that ACAPELLA (great name!) is even better! Just my personal bias, n Rojas vest in australia > > > For all of you in Australia, > > I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > > ... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom > is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for > every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and > compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of > assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to > you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will > be > available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience > and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > > I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? > The > physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > > Fiona > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click > here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > > ------------------------------------------- > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR > TREATMENTS. > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Gale, I am not sure yet as she is only learning to do it and it's only been just over a week. They say it keeps the airways open a bit longer to expel the mucus. I think this is right, if not somebody can correct me. I am also just learning. (Australia) vest in australia > > > For all of you in Australia, > > I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > > ... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom > is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for > every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and > compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of > assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to > you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will > be > available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience > and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > > I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? > The > physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > > Fiona > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click > here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > > ------------------------------------------- > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR > TREATMENTS. > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Hi all, I have only just got around to reading my emails from the start of January and came across this one about vests in Australia. I asked the physio about it last time was in hospital and she said that we dont use them over here as they are very expensive and dont do the job as well as manual percussion. There had been a trial of them about 5 years ago in the hospital and they found that there was still alot of mucous left in the lower lobes and sides of the lungs because the vest doesnt reach there. Hope this is useful to you all. Fiona Eaton wrote: Yeah I agree with you and I can't understand why they might not consider using them in the hospital when they are so short staffed. They didn't have any physios over Xmas New Year. And it would really help if you had a little one that struggled alot during physio and for school camps / trips with friends etc. Jack absolutely hates sitting still so I have to catch him when he is really tired - usually right on dinner time! and I end up doing all the physio myself. Fiona > >Reply-To: cfparents >To: <cfparents > >Subject: RE: vest in australia >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:39:50 +1030 > >Fiona, > >That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually >doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to >different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as >it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now >Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier. > > (Adelaide) > > vest in australia > > >For all of you in Australia, > >I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > >... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom >is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for >every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and >compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of >assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to >you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will >be >available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience >and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > >I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? >The >physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > >Fiona > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click >here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > >------------------------------------------- >The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY >be construed as medical advice. > >PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR >TREATMENTS. > >------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Hi all, I have only just got around to reading my emails from the start of January and came across this one about vests in Australia. I asked the physio about it last time was in hospital and she said that we dont use them over here as they are very expensive and dont do the job as well as manual percussion. There had been a trial of them about 5 years ago in the hospital and they found that there was still alot of mucous left in the lower lobes and sides of the lungs because the vest doesnt reach there. Hope this is useful to you all. -mum to 2 1/2 with CF Fiona Eaton wrote: Yeah I agree with you and I can't understand why they might not consider using them in the hospital when they are so short staffed. They didn't have any physios over Xmas New Year. And it would really help if you had a little one that struggled alot during physio and for school camps / trips with friends etc. Jack absolutely hates sitting still so I have to catch him when he is really tired - usually right on dinner time! and I end up doing all the physio myself. Fiona > >Reply-To: cfparents >To: <cfparents > >Subject: RE: vest in australia >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:39:50 +1030 > >Fiona, > >That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually >doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to >different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as >it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now >Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier. > > (Adelaide) > > vest in australia > > >For all of you in Australia, > >I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > >... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom >is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for >every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and >compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of >assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to >you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will >be >available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience >and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > >I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? >The >physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > >Fiona > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click >here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > >------------------------------------------- >The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY >be construed as medical advice. > >PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR >TREATMENTS. > >------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Oh, they can make studies say whatever they want! There have been so many that say that the vest is better than manual PT done by parents and respiratory therapists that I would wonder who is telling the truth. I guess the vest companies want us to buy it so their studies are positive and the people who have to pay for it don't want to spend the money! Honestly I am sure that it was better than what we were doing because is sometimes able to bring up mucus after PT (she never did with manual PT unless she was sick) Can you at least get the flutter or pep mask in Australia? Mom of 5 with CF vest in australia > > >For all of you in Australia, > >I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > >... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom >is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for >every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and >compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of >assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to >you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will >be >available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience >and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > >I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? >The >physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > >Fiona > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click >here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp<http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.\ asp> > > > >------------------------------------------- >The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY >be construed as medical advice. > >PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR >TREATMENTS. > >------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hi , I'm not sure what device was trialed in Australia, but it was not ours. We have asked, but have been denied, any access to patients in Australia or from importing the device into the country. We tried to work with CF research teams or groups in Australia to see if they were interested in independently determning the value of high frequency chest wall oscillation (HFCWO, what the Vest does). We made several attepmts, but there just wasn't any interest. We can only offer our resources. As far as expensive...well, I think there is enough documentation available to demonstrate the cost effectiveness of the device. Not doing the job as well as manual percussion and not reaching all areas of the lung? Again, I will refer to the vast amount of research and literature that is available. I hope that clarifies the Australian situation. Maybe in the future it will work out. We'll see. Randy Hill-Rom vest in australia > > >For all of you in Australia, > >I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > >... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom >is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for >every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and >compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of >assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to >you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will >be >available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience >and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > >I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? >The >physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > >Fiona > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click >here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > >------------------------------------------- >The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY >be construed as medical advice. > >PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR >TREATMENTS. > >------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 ooops...I meant " attempts " . Sorry. vest in australia > > >For all of you in Australia, > >I sent an e-mail to the vest people - > >... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom >is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for >every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and >compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of >assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to >you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will >be >available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience >and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ... > >I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long? >The >physios here have never even mentioned the vest. > >Fiona > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Click >here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > >------------------------------------------- >The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY >be construed as medical advice. > >PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR >TREATMENTS. > >------------------------------------ > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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