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Fiona,

That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually

doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to

different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as

it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now

Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier.

(Adelaide)

vest in australia

For all of you in Australia,

I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

.... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom

is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for

every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and

compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of

assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to

you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will

be

available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience

and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long?

The

physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

Fiona

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Yeah I agree with you and I can't understand why they might not consider

using them in the hospital when they are so short staffed. They didn't have

any physios over Xmas New Year. And it would really help if you had a little

one that struggled alot during physio and for school camps / trips with

friends etc. Jack absolutely hates sitting still so I have to catch him when

he is really tired - usually right on dinner time! and I end up doing all

the physio myself.

Fiona

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>Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:39:50 +1030

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>Fiona,

>

>That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually

>doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to

>different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as

>it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now

>Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier.

>

> (Adelaide)

>

> vest in australia

>

>

>For all of you in Australia,

>

>I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

>... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom

>is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for

>every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and

>compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of

>assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to

>you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will

>be

>available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience

>and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

>I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long?

>The

>physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

>Fiona

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You know , you have hit on a possibility for the company(either one) might

use to help getting them to be sold there. Your countries KNOW that the USA

has researched & found they are " safe " , etc. You don't have a company there

that having them would be put out of business------so , If the vest company

would offer to GIVE each (CF) clinic hospital there one to use FREE in your

country, for an exchange right to sell to those who can afford. them...

Maybe in a short time, they would see how they really help save them $$ by

preventing more illness---.THEY MIGHT AGREE AND eventually pay for them in

the medical plan of the country......

FOLKS should ban together & all write the government folks in charge of

medical issues AND the vest companies. Address etc. are all on line......

bless you. i sure do hope someone will take the ball on that & throw at

them!! Good luck!!

That's how we got some insurance companies to pay here......threatened to

stay in hospital & get treatments .about 40-75 thousand a 10-14 day

stay........... BUT with the vest , those stays , either stopped-- or

lessened greatly. They did it to save themselves $$$$$$$$$$$

LOVE & HUGS,

GrandmomBEV

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>

>

>For all of you in Australia,

>

>I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

>... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom

>is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for

>every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and

>compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of

>assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to

>you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will

>be

>available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience

>and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

>I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long?

>The

>physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

>Fiona

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>PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

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,

Does the PEP do as good as manual percussions?

Gale

> Fiona,

>

> That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually

> doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to

> different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as

long as

> it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now

> Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier.

>

> (Adelaide)

>

> vest in australia

>

>

> For all of you in Australia,

>

> I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

> ... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia.

Hill-Rom

> is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration

requirements for

> every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety

and

> compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process

of

> assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product

available to

> you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it

will

> be

> available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the

inconvenience

> and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

> I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so

long?

> The

> physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

> Fiona

>

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I think that PEP is good, but that ACAPELLA (great name!) is even

better! Just my personal bias, n Rojas

vest in australia

>

>

> For all of you in Australia,

>

> I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

> ... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia.

Hill-Rom

> is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration

requirements for

> every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety

and

> compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process

of

> assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product

available to

> you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it

will

> be

> available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the

inconvenience

> and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

> I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so

long?

> The

> physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

> Fiona

>

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> be construed as medical advice.

>

> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

> TREATMENTS.

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Gale,

I am not sure yet as she is only learning to do it and it's only been

just over a week. They say it keeps the airways open a bit longer to

expel the mucus. I think this is right, if not somebody can correct me.

I am also just learning.

(Australia)

vest in australia

>

>

> For all of you in Australia,

>

> I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

> ... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia.

Hill-Rom

> is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration

requirements for

> every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety

and

> compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process

of

> assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product

available to

> you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it

will

> be

> available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the

inconvenience

> and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

> I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so

long?

> The

> physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

> Fiona

>

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> be construed as medical advice.

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> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

> TREATMENTS.

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Hi all,

I have only just got around to reading my emails from the start of January and

came across this one about vests in Australia. I asked the physio about it last

time was in hospital and she said that we dont use them over here as

they are very expensive and dont do the job as well as manual percussion. There

had been a trial of them about 5 years ago in the hospital and they found that

there was still alot of mucous left in the lower lobes and sides of the lungs

because the vest doesnt reach there.

Hope this is useful to you all.

Fiona Eaton wrote:

Yeah I agree with you and I can't understand why they might not consider

using them in the hospital when they are so short staffed. They didn't have

any physios over Xmas New Year. And it would really help if you had a little

one that struggled alot during physio and for school camps / trips with

friends etc. Jack absolutely hates sitting still so I have to catch him when

he is really tired - usually right on dinner time! and I end up doing all

the physio myself.

Fiona

>

>Reply-To: cfparents

>To: <cfparents >

>Subject: RE: vest in australia

>Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:39:50 +1030

>

>Fiona,

>

>That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually

>doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to

>different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as

>it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now

>Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier.

>

> (Adelaide)

>

> vest in australia

>

>

>For all of you in Australia,

>

>I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

>... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom

>is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for

>every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and

>compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of

>assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to

>you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will

>be

>available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience

>and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

>I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long?

>The

>physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

>Fiona

>

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>be construed as medical advice.

>

>PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

>TREATMENTS.

>

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Hi all,

I have only just got around to reading my emails from the start of January and

came across this one about vests in Australia. I asked the physio about it last

time was in hospital and she said that we dont use them over here as

they are very expensive and dont do the job as well as manual percussion. There

had been a trial of them about 5 years ago in the hospital and they found that

there was still alot of mucous left in the lower lobes and sides of the lungs

because the vest doesnt reach there.

Hope this is useful to you all.

-mum to 2 1/2 with CF

Fiona Eaton wrote:

Yeah I agree with you and I can't understand why they might not consider

using them in the hospital when they are so short staffed. They didn't have

any physios over Xmas New Year. And it would really help if you had a little

one that struggled alot during physio and for school camps / trips with

friends etc. Jack absolutely hates sitting still so I have to catch him when

he is really tired - usually right on dinner time! and I end up doing all

the physio myself.

Fiona

>

>Reply-To: cfparents

>To: <cfparents >

>Subject: RE: vest in australia

>Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:39:50 +1030

>

>Fiona,

>

>That's because they don't think it does any better job than manually

>doing physio. We have asked this numerous times over the years to

>different physic's. I wouldn't care it it only did the same as long as

>it gave my arms (well my husbands actually) a break. Although now

>Eilish is learning to do PEP life will be easier.

>

> (Adelaide)

>

> vest in australia

>

>

>For all of you in Australia,

>

>I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

>... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom

>is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for

>every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and

>compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of

>assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to

>you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will

>be

>available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience

>and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

>I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long?

>The

>physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

>Fiona

>

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>PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

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Oh, they can make studies say whatever they want! There have been so many that

say that the vest is better than manual PT done by parents and respiratory

therapists that I would wonder who is telling the truth. I guess the vest

companies want us to buy it so their studies are positive and the people who

have to pay for it don't want to spend the money!

Honestly I am sure that it was better than what we were doing because is

sometimes able to bring up mucus after PT (she never did with manual PT unless

she was sick)

Can you at least get the flutter or pep mask in Australia?

Mom of 5 with CF

vest in australia

>

>

>For all of you in Australia,

>

>I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

>... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom

>is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for

>every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and

>compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of

>assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to

>you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will

>be

>available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience

>and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

>I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long?

>The

>physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

>Fiona

>

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Hi ,

I'm not sure what device was trialed in Australia, but it was not ours. We have

asked, but have been denied, any access to patients in Australia or from

importing the device into the country. We tried to work with CF research teams

or groups in Australia to see if they were interested in independently

determning the value of high frequency chest wall oscillation (HFCWO, what the

Vest does). We made several attepmts, but there just wasn't any interest. We

can only offer our resources.

As far as expensive...well, I think there is enough documentation available to

demonstrate the cost effectiveness of the device. Not doing the job as well as

manual percussion and not reaching all areas of the lung? Again, I will refer

to the vast amount of research and literature that is available.

I hope that clarifies the Australian situation. Maybe in the future it will

work out. We'll see.

Randy

Hill-Rom

vest in australia

>

>

>For all of you in Australia,

>

>I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

>... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom

>is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for

>every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and

>compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of

>assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to

>you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will

>be

>available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience

>and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

>I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long?

>The

>physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

>Fiona

>

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ooops...I meant " attempts " . Sorry.

vest in australia

>

>

>For all of you in Australia,

>

>I sent an e-mail to the vest people -

>

>... The Vest is currently not available for sale in Australia. Hill-Rom

>is committed to meeting the regulatory and registration requirements for

>every country in which we sell our product to ensure patient safety and

>compliance with local authorities. We are currently in the process of

>assessing these requirements. We hope to make this product available to

>you in the near future; however, we cannot guarantee when or if it will

>be

>available for purchase in Australia. We apologize for the inconvenience

>and hope to be able to offer this product to you very soon. ...

>

>I can't believe we are so far behind. I wonder why it is taking so long?

>The

>physios here have never even mentioned the vest.

>

>Fiona

>

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