More iron

[Guest guest]

Hi...can anyone help me figure out how to get more iron into my dtr (18 Down

Syndrome and Autism) and still remain on SCD? She eats quite a bit of beef every

other day but she keeps going anemic...seriously so. We just did an

endoscopy/colonoscopy to see if she was bleeding anywhere to account for the

constant anemia. Just to encourage you all.....the pictures of her innards

(which no mother should ever have to see) were absolutely beautiful...clear and

pink and healthy as could be. The endoscopy picture from 4 years ago before SCD

looked like bloody red raw hamburger. She is totally off prevacid and zantac

after 4 years so we have made great, tho slow progress (she is alot older than

most of the kids here). She doesn't groan and cry from stomach pain anymore

which is the biggest blessing and her poops are Nobel prize worthy LOL. Rgular

and perfectly formed.

However having to add iron pills to her diet causes severe gastric distress,

iron IVs would take 3-4 hours 2-3 times a week an hour away. I guess I should

double up on the beef and give it to her every day? I try organic liver which

she totally loves (blecchhhhh) but I can only get in a spoonful or so before she

gags. Do you think cooking, blending and pureeing, and freezing the beef removes

the iron content? She can still only eat pureed foods. If this is true I'll have

to find another more timeconsuming manner of preparation.

She gets almond butter, macadamia butter, cashew butter (a TB per day of one),

avocado, banana, chicken, beef, asparagus, string beans, acorn squash and

carrots. I'm trying to introduce some spinach now (of course then I have to read

about the low oxalate diet and drive myself crazyLOL). But she's too yellow and

the doc wants to see more green veggies.

Any more suggestions for good dietary iron? I hate those dang pills!! They do

work but I'd rather leave her with the hematologist after I give them to her as

she is so uncomfortable. Unless it's the processing she " should " be getting

sufficient iron in her diet. Please help O wise ones...and stick to the

diet!!!!! This is a miracle for .

if you like please email me at gldcst@... as i am on digest and I can't

wait to hear from you.

Sherry

[Guest guest]

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> However having to add iron pills to her diet causes severe gastric distress,

iron IVs

would take 3-4 hours 2-3 times a week an hour away.

Elaine warned;

Please do not get vitamins with iron; they encourage all kinds of infections

especially in

the gut, and iron has had much research done on it re other diseases. No oral

iron if you

can help it. Just eat the liver pate and if you like liver, eat it at least once

a week.

Here are some other SCD legal iron rich foods:

Broccoli, ½ cup, boiled 0.7

Green beans, ½ cup, boiled 0.8

Lima beans, baby, frozen, ½ cup, boiled 1.8 Dried or fresh are permitted.

Dried legumes

must be prepared according to the instructions in the book, Breaking the Vicious

Cycle

Beets, 1 cup 1.8

Peas, ½ cup frozen, boiled 1.3

Vegetables, green leafy, ½ cup 2.0

Watermelon, 6 inch x ½ inch slice 3.0

A Sample List of Foods Rich in Iron:

Dates or Prunes, ½ cup 2.4

Beef, Pork, Lamb, three ounces 2.3 to 3.0

Liver (beef, chicken), three ounces 8.0 to 25.0

Clams, Oysters ¾ cup 3.0

Dark meat Turkey ¾ cup 2.6

Carol F.

SCD7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

You probably have already checked this, but just in case, since this

seems such a mystery...has she had a thorough thyroid check? Thyroid

problems can make a person seem anemic when they really aren't. I

can't explain this, but I read it somewhere and it seemed to be true

with me.

, mom to

>

> Hi...can anyone help me figure out how to get more iron into my dtr

(18 Down Syndrome and Autism) and still remain on SCD? She eats quite

a bit of beef every other day but she keeps going anemic...seriously

so. We just did an endoscopy/colonoscopy to see if she was bleeding

anywhere to account for the constant anemia. Just to encourage you

all.....the pictures of her innards (which no mother should ever have

to see) were absolutely beautiful...clear and pink and healthy as

could be. The endoscopy picture from 4 years ago before SCD looked

like bloody red raw hamburger. She is totally off prevacid and zantac

after 4 years so we have made great, tho slow progress (she is alot

older than most of the kids here). She doesn't groan and cry from

stomach pain anymore which is the biggest blessing and her poops are

Nobel prize worthy LOL. Rgular and perfectly formed.

>

> However having to add iron pills to her diet causes severe gastric

distress, iron IVs would take 3-4 hours 2-3 times a week an hour away.

I guess I should double up on the beef and give it to her every day? I

try organic liver which she totally loves (blecchhhhh) but I can only

get in a spoonful or so before she gags. Do you think cooking,

blending and pureeing, and freezing the beef removes the iron content?

She can still only eat pureed foods. If this is true I'll have to find

another more timeconsuming manner of preparation.

> She gets almond butter, macadamia butter, cashew butter (a TB per

day of one), avocado, banana, chicken, beef, asparagus, string beans,

acorn squash and carrots. I'm trying to introduce some spinach now (of

course then I have to read about the low oxalate diet and drive myself

crazyLOL). But she's too yellow and the doc wants to see more green

veggies.

>

> Any more suggestions for good dietary iron? I hate those dang

pills!! They do work but I'd rather leave her with the hematologist

after I give them to her as she is so uncomfortable. Unless it's the

processing she " should " be getting sufficient iron in her diet.

Please help O wise ones...and stick to the diet!!!!! This is a miracle

for .

> if you like please email me at gldcst@... as i am on digest and I

can't wait to hear from you.

> Sherry

>

>

[Guest guest]

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> Hi...can anyone help me figure out how to get more iron into my dtr (18 Down

Syndrome and Autism) and still remain on SCD?

getting enough iron in has a further challenge and that is to hope the iron is

being

absorbed.I learned a long time ago that when a citrus fruit or juice is

consumed at the

same meal as an egg,iron absorbtion is enhanced.

SCD may address your oxalate concerns.Have you read this?

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/ox1.html

CarolF.

SCD 7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

<<You probably have already checked this, but just in case, since this

seems such a mystery...has she had a thorough thyroid check? Thyroid

problems can make a person seem anemic when they really aren't. I>>

Oh yes indeed! Down Syndrome kids are notorious for having hypothyroid issues at

an early age and if not then definitely somewhere down the road. 's been

followed since she was 2 and has been on medication....she has been hypothyroid

nearly all her life. But it's a great suggestion. It would be difficult to tell

the difference. Thanks.

Sherry

[Guest guest]

Carol F, thank you so much for your thoughts and research. With help from Patti

and Grammy I think I'm on the right path. I just fed her some liver infested

food tonight and she took it ok:-) I will check on the pate recipe also. I'm not

seriously worried about low oxalate....I truly believe SCD will be my last diet

bandwagon....but sometimes all the talk gets you thinking you know? Thanks for

the URL. I will check it out. Back to the drawing board (cutting board?)

It's such a blessing that you all are still here plugging away at helping

everyone. You all are so generous and knowledgeable. You helped me save my

little girl!

Sherry

[Guest guest]

>

> Any more suggestions for good dietary iron? I hate those dang

pills!! They do work but I'd rather leave her with the hematologist

after I give them to her as she is so uncomfortable. Unless it's the

processing she " should " be getting sufficient iron in her diet.

Please help O wise ones...and stick to the diet!!!!!

>

> Sherry

>

>

[Guest guest]

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> I take Dessicated Liver tablets by Solgar. According to the label they are

> starch free and I see no other illegals listed.

>

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This is for SCDadults:

I make an incredible French Liver Pate but can't use it up all by myself so

invite the

neighbors in to share some wine and pate .Do not use all the butter in the

recipe 25-50%

will still make it very rich. It can be frozen but it affects the texture making

it a bit grainy:

Ingredients

• 1 1/3 lbs fresh chicken livers

• 1 large onion thinly sliced

• 2 cup mushrooms thinly sliced

• 3 tbsp Dijon mustard

• 2 tbsp olive oil

• 3 tbsp green peppercorns*

• 1 tbsp fresh thyme flower

• 1 1/2 tsp salt

• 1 bay leaf

• 1/2 head garlic

• 1 lbs butter (modify this)

• 1 1/2 oz wine or Vodka

• 1 tsp Tabasco

Preparation

• In a large oven proof pan combine the livers, onion, and mushrooms with the

oil,

mustard, salt, thyme, bay leaf, garlic, and 2 tbsp of the peppercorns.

Bake at 350°F for 40 minutes or until the liver is cooked and onions are

tender.

• Remove from the oven and strain off any juices. Puré the livers in a food

mill or food

processor and then blend into the softened butter. Mix in spirits, Tabasco and

remaining

peppercorns.

• Press into an 8x4x2 " deep terrine mold and refrigerate until firm.

* Whole peppercorns are an advanced food