Re: SCD diet, for how long

[Guest guest]

hi vesna,

i'm a beginner to SCD as well, but i wanted to reassure you that this

diet can help with skin rashes. my daughter has eczema that i have

discovered (through SCD) is linked to food intolerances. my daughter

also never had stomach problems. even though it's only been 6 weeks,

we have seen steady and wonderful results with this diet. her eczema

is nearly completely gone (it used to be very itchy, scabbed,

scratched to the point of bleeding at times).

there are others here who are very very knowledgable and can perhaps

help you to see if there is something that might still be feeding the

bad bugs in your son's gut.

silvia

> Hello all,

>

> I only just joined and would like to greet everyone.

>

> My son has autism (6yrs old) and I implemented SCD for him about

> 3 months ago. He also gets good probiotics regularly, as well as

> home made fermented goats milk (kefir)and only freshly squeezed

> juice. I have not noticed any changes for better so far, neither on

> his skin nor in his behaviour, except that his stool is a bit more

> regular. If anything, he appears more withdrawn and 'in his world',

> finding it very difficult to tune into adult lead activities, his

> anxiety levels and aggression is about the same as ever etc.

>

> I am a single parent and on a very low income and find

> implementing the diet quite time consuming and expensive. Spending

> more time in the kitchen means that i spend less time interacting

> wiht my son and feel guilty about it.

> On one hand he does not appear to be benefiting from the diet,

> while on the other is having less interaction time with me...

> Wondering how much longer i should persist with the diet??

>

> Perhaps it is important to mention that my son never had stomach

> problems (only sometimes constipation) and that he always looked

> healthy, he was never fed with junk or processed food and despite

> being a picky eater, i managed to get him eat balanced diet. Only

> lately (about a year ago) he started getting some redness on his

> left arm, which looks like a rush and which periodically disappears.

>

> Any advice or ideas will be gratefully received.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Vesna

>

>

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>

> Hello all,

>

> I only just joined and would like to greet everyone.

>

> My son has autism (6yrs old) and I implemented SCD for him about 3 months

ago. He

also gets good probiotics regularly, as well as home made fermented goats milk

(kefir)and

only freshly squeezed juice. I

Vesna, do you dilute the juice. Describe how you make the yogurt please as you

describe it

as " kefir. " .

Carol F.

SCD 7 years,

celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi Vesna,

Please let us know what foods you are feeding your son.

For how long is the kefir fermented?

Do you feed him any plantains? (They are not legal, I made that mistake myself)

Any peanut butter?

What supplements are you using?

Is your son going to school and getting into the wrong foods without

you knowing about it?

BTW, Kefir is an advanced food and might not be the right thing for

your child at this moment.

Looking forward to getting some answers so we can help you.

Mimi

> hi vesna,

>

> i'm a beginner to SCD as well, but i wanted to reassure you that this

> diet can help with skin rashes. my daughter has eczema that i have

> discovered (through SCD) is linked to food intolerances. my daughter

> also never had stomach problems. even though it's only been 6 weeks,

> we have seen steady and wonderful results with this diet. her eczema

> is nearly completely gone (it used to be very itchy, scabbed,

> scratched to the point of bleeding at times).

>

> there are others here who are very very knowledgable and can perhaps

> help you to see if there is something that might still be feeding the

> bad bugs in your son's gut.

>

> silvia

>

>

>

> > Hello all,

> >

> > I only just joined and would like to greet everyone.

> >

> > My son has autism (6yrs old) and I implemented SCD for him about

> > 3 months ago. He also gets good probiotics regularly, as well as

> > home made fermented goats milk (kefir)and only freshly squeezed

> > juice. I have not noticed any changes for better so far, neither on

> > his skin nor in his behaviour, except that his stool is a bit more

> > regular. If anything, he appears more withdrawn and 'in his world',

> > finding it very difficult to tune into adult lead activities, his

> > anxiety levels and aggression is about the same as ever etc.

> >

> > I am a single parent and on a very low income and find

> > implementing the diet quite time consuming and expensive. Spending

> > more time in the kitchen means that i spend less time interacting

> > wiht my son and feel guilty about it.

> > On one hand he does not appear to be benefiting from the diet,

> > while on the other is having less interaction time with me...

> > Wondering how much longer i should persist with the diet??

> >

> > Perhaps it is important to mention that my son never had stomach

> > problems (only sometimes constipation) and that he always looked

> > healthy, he was never fed with junk or processed food and despite

> > being a picky eater, i managed to get him eat balanced diet. Only

> > lately (about a year ago) he started getting some redness on his

> > left arm, which looks like a rush and which periodically disappears.

> >

> > Any advice or ideas will be gratefully received.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Vesna

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hello Vesna,

I want you to know that I implemented the SCDiet with my son for 2 weeks before

finding the pecabread site and this group. I was not doing it right before

this. There are so many little things that I didn't think about, like going

slow with the foods and doing the intro diet properly. Also, I was feeding him

raw foods too fast and cow milk yogurt, too much of it. Please let these ladies

guide you and post often, any questions or worries you have and you will find

that you have a great support here that will encourage you and carry you through

the difficult times. I will be looking for your posts and my thoughts and

prayers are with you.

Hang in there,

Hinojosa

3yr old boy, ASD, Began SCD Feb 14, 2007

[Norton AntiSpam] SCD diet, for how long

Hello all,

I only just joined and would like to greet everyone.

My son has autism (6yrs old) and I implemented SCD for him about 3 months ago.

He also gets good probiotics regularly, as well as home made fermented goats

milk (kefir)and only freshly squeezed juice. I have not noticed any changes for

better so far, neither on his skin nor in his behaviour, except that his stool

is a bit more regular. If anything, he appears more withdrawn and 'in his

world', finding it very difficult to tune into adult lead activities, his

anxiety levels and aggression is about the same as ever etc.

I am a single parent and on a very low income and find implementing the diet

quite time consuming and expensive. Spending more time in the kitchen means that

i spend less time interacting wiht my son and feel guilty about it.

On one hand he does not appear to be benefiting from the diet, while on the

other is having less interaction time with me... Wondering how much longer i

should persist with the diet??

Perhaps it is important to mention that my son never had stomach problems

(only sometimes constipation) and that he always looked healthy, he was never

fed with junk or processed food and despite being a picky eater, i managed to

get him eat balanced diet. Only lately (about a year ago) he started getting

some redness on his left arm, which looks like a rush and which periodically

disappears.

Any advice or ideas will be gratefully received.

Best wishes,

Vesna

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Dear all,

Thanks for all your replies and hope you give me.

Here is the most comprehensive list of foods/supplements I can manage after a

busy day:

For baking: 1/2 to 2/3 almond flour mixed with different nuts and seeds

(wallnut, hazelnut, cashews, coconut, more rarely peanut and sometimes some

sesame seeds, also sunflower and pumpkin seed flour; all home ground)

I only manage to feed my son wiht pancakes for breakfast, so try to vary 'the

formula' according what available.

Pancakes are mixed with eggs, water, touch of salt and bicarbonate soda. Fried

on coconut oil. Spread used is cold pressed honey and for the last 3 days I gave

him some strawberry jam (sweetened by grape juice).

I make muffins for him wiht fresh strawberries added (only fruit he eats in

them), sweetened by date paste (home made)and I add raisins too. He normally

eats 2 muffins a day.

Meal time: Roasted chicken or sometimes duck, only rarely roasted red meat (he

does not like it much), fried meatballs (lamb and beef), soup (chicken stock,

leeks, broccoli, celery, carrots, onion, bit of pumpkin and red lentils to

thicken it; all finely mixed) or eggs fried on butter/ sometimes boiled after

his soup; all except soup served with fresh salad (lettuce, cucumber, avocado,

onions, peppers, oil/cider viniger dressing)

He drinks fermented goats milk (kefir, initial batch takes about 3 days to

ferment and consequent ones shorter; kefir was recommended as more superior to

yougurt by the nutritionalist), in addition he eats some mature cheddar made

with unpastearused milk.

He has no more than 4-5 dried apricots a day, sometimes a few dates, very

rarely raisins. I often give him to snack on brasil nuts.

He eats regularly 1 apple and 1 ripe banana a day, in addition he might have

strawberries (Likes them a lot and has them often), some ripe pear, mango,

oranges and pineapples (if not having them in juice that day), he likes lemon

/lemonade with lemon and some honey, 1-2 times a week/)

His baking is done with coconut oil and any other cooking with guss or duck

fat, olive oil is used only fresh (cold) and only added at the end of cooking or

in salads.

I make fresh juice for him, mainly pineapple, pear, orange or apple juice. It

is half diluted with filtered water (Brita filter).

Fruit used is rarely organic as can not afford it all the time, but i wash it

well or peel it.

I add to his juice ( he gets juice twice a day max) bit of milk thistle, legal

zinc, think legal Kirkman TMG 750 mg (tmg, but silicone dioxide and magnesium

stearate also present), in the evening Kirkman L- Glutathione 100 mg(present

plant cellulose, Leucine, Silicon Dioxide), drop of folic acid.

He gets Bio-Kult probiotic supplement 4 capsules a day (strength min 10

billion probiotic organisms per gram) in 2 goes.

In school he has his packed lunch.

Hope this makes sense and that to those experienced amongst you it gives an

indication what I might be doing wrong.

Many thanks and best wishes,

Vesna

pecan post wrote:

Hi Vesna,

Please let us know what foods you are feeding your son.

For how long is the kefir fermented?

Do you feed him any plantains? (They are not legal, I made that mistake myself)

Any peanut butter?

What supplements are you using?

Is your son going to school and getting into the wrong foods without

you knowing about it?

BTW, Kefir is an advanced food and might not be the right thing for

your child at this moment.

Looking forward to getting some answers so we can help you.

Mimi

> hi vesna,

>

> i'm a beginner to SCD as well, but i wanted to reassure you that this

> diet can help with skin rashes. my daughter has eczema that i have

> discovered (through SCD) is linked to food intolerances. my daughter

> also never had stomach problems. even though it's only been 6 weeks,

> we have seen steady and wonderful results with this diet. her eczema

> is nearly completely gone (it used to be very itchy, scabbed,

> scratched to the point of bleeding at times).

>

> there are others here who are very very knowledgable and can perhaps

> help you to see if there is something that might still be feeding the

> bad bugs in your son's gut.

>

> silvia

>

>

>

> > Hello all,

> >

> > I only just joined and would like to greet everyone.

> >

> > My son has autism (6yrs old) and I implemented SCD for him about

> > 3 months ago. He also gets good probiotics regularly, as well as

> > home made fermented goats milk (kefir)and only freshly squeezed

> > juice. I have not noticed any changes for better so far, neither on

> > his skin nor in his behaviour, except that his stool is a bit more

> > regular. If anything, he appears more withdrawn and 'in his world',

> > finding it very difficult to tune into adult lead activities, his

> > anxiety levels and aggression is about the same as ever etc.

> >

> > I am a single parent and on a very low income and find

> > implementing the diet quite time consuming and expensive. Spending

> > more time in the kitchen means that i spend less time interacting

> > wiht my son and feel guilty about it.

> > On one hand he does not appear to be benefiting from the diet,

> > while on the other is having less interaction time with me...

> > Wondering how much longer i should persist with the diet??

> >

> > Perhaps it is important to mention that my son never had stomach

> > problems (only sometimes constipation) and that he always looked

> > healthy, he was never fed with junk or processed food and despite

> > being a picky eater, i managed to get him eat balanced diet. Only

> > lately (about a year ago) he started getting some redness on his

> > left arm, which looks like a rush and which periodically disappears.

> >

> > Any advice or ideas will be gratefully received.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Vesna

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing.

> > Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games

> > and win prizes.

> >

> >

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Vesna,

You need to know that Bio Kult is NOT legal on SCD. It contains 14 different

probiotic strains, most of which are not allowed on SCD.... most specifically,

all of the bifidus strains.

You said in your earlier post that you started your son on SCD 3 months ago...

You are using quite a few advanced foods, so if he is not progressing, this may

be part of the reason.

I would recommend that you go back to all cooked fruits and vegetables (and

peeled, of course). The ONLY exceptions are ripe banana.... and *possibly* ripe

avocado, although even avocado might need to be cooked for some children in the

beginning.

Dried fruits, whole nuts and raw salads are all much, much too advanced for

someone so new to the diet.

All seeds are considered extremely advanced foods. Coconut is very advanced, as

well.

Unless you made the strawberry jam sweetened with grape juice yourself, it is

not legal.

The fresh juices you are making yourself.... assuming they are made with the

type of juicer that filters out all the pulp and fiber.... are fine to use,

even if the fruit is not cooked, but all the other raw fruits that he eats

(except ripe banana) are not.

I'm sorry to give you so many things you need to change.... but I want you to

have a good result.

Patti

Re: SCD diet, for how long

Dear all,

Thanks for all your replies and hope you give me.

Here is the most comprehensive list of foods/supplements I can manage after a

busy day:

For baking: 1/2 to 2/3 almond flour mixed with different nuts and seeds

(wallnut, hazelnut, cashews, coconut, more rarely peanut and sometimes some

sesame seeds, also sunflower and pumpkin seed flour; all home ground)

I only manage to feed my son wiht pancakes for breakfast, so try to vary 'the

formula' according what available.

Pancakes are mixed with eggs, water, touch of salt and bicarbonate soda. Fried

on coconut oil. Spread used is cold pressed honey and for the last 3 days I gave

him some strawberry jam (sweetened by grape juice).

I make muffins for him wiht fresh strawberries added (only fruit he eats in

them), sweetened by date paste (home made)and I add raisins too. He normally

eats 2 muffins a day.

Meal time: Roasted chicken or sometimes duck, only rarely roasted red meat (he

does not like it much), fried meatballs (lamb and beef), soup (chicken stock,

leeks, broccoli, celery, carrots, onion, bit of pumpkin and red lentils to

thicken it; all finely mixed) or eggs fried on butter/ sometimes boiled after

his soup; all except soup served with fresh salad (lettuce, cucumber, avocado,

onions, peppers, oil/cider viniger dressing)

He drinks fermented goats milk (kefir, initial batch takes about 3 days to

ferment and consequent ones shorter; kefir was recommended as more superior to

yougurt by the nutritionalist), in addition he eats some mature cheddar made

with unpastearused milk.

He has no more than 4-5 dried apricots a day, sometimes a few dates, very

rarely raisins. I often give him to snack on brasil nuts.

He eats regularly 1 apple and 1 ripe banana a day, in addition he might have

strawberries (Likes them a lot and has them often), some ripe pear, mango,

oranges and pineapples (if not having them in juice that day), he likes lemon

/lemonade with lemon and some honey, 1-2 times a week/)

His baking is done with coconut oil and any other cooking with guss or duck

fat, olive oil is used only fresh (cold) and only added at the end of cooking or

in salads.

I make fresh juice for him, mainly pineapple, pear, orange or apple juice. It

is half diluted with filtered water (Brita filter).

Fruit used is rarely organic as can not afford it all the time, but i wash it

well or peel it.

I add to his juice ( he gets juice twice a day max) bit of milk thistle, legal

zinc, think legal Kirkman TMG 750 mg (tmg, but silicone dioxide and magnesium

stearate also present), in the evening Kirkman L- Glutathione 100 mg(present

plant cellulose, Leucine, Silicon Dioxide), drop of folic acid.

He gets Bio-Kult probiotic supplement 4 capsules a day (strength min 10

billion probiotic organisms per gram) in 2 goes.

In school he has his packed lunch.

Hope this makes sense and that to those experienced amongst you it gives an

indication what I might be doing wrong.

Many thanks and best wishes,

Vesna

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Vesna,

I completely agree with what Patti wrote! If you are not thrilled with

the results that you get after implementing what she wrote, then I

would also take out other things as well.

Peanut butter can cause problems. Some children may not tolerate

carrots or the nut flours/butters during the early days of the diet.

Milk thistle might also cause problems for some children but not

others. Please read Elaine's comments regarding milk thistle in the

supplement section of our website.

Mimi

> Vesna,

>

> You need to know that Bio Kult is NOT legal on SCD. It contains 14 different

> probiotic strains, most of which are not allowed on SCD.... most

> specifically, all of the bifidus strains.

>

> You said in your earlier post that you started your son on SCD 3 months

> ago...

>

> You are using quite a few advanced foods, so if he is not progressing, this

> may be part of the reason.

>

> I would recommend that you go back to all cooked fruits and vegetables (and

> peeled, of course). The ONLY exceptions are ripe banana.... and *possibly*

> ripe avocado, although even avocado might need to be cooked for some

> children in the beginning.

>

> Dried fruits, whole nuts and raw salads are all much, much too advanced for

> someone so new to the diet.

>

> All seeds are considered extremely advanced foods. Coconut is very advanced,

> as well.

>

> Unless you made the strawberry jam sweetened with grape juice yourself, it

> is not legal.

>

> The fresh juices you are making yourself.... assuming they are made with

> the type of juicer that filters out all the pulp and fiber.... are fine to

> use, even if the fruit is not cooked, but all the other raw fruits that he

> eats (except ripe banana) are not.

>

> I'm sorry to give you so many things you need to change.... but I want you

> to have a good result.

>

>

> Patti

>

>

>

> Re: SCD diet, for how long

>

>

> Dear all,

>

> Thanks for all your replies and hope you give me.

>

> Here is the most comprehensive list of foods/supplements I can manage

> after a busy day:

>

> For baking: 1/2 to 2/3 almond flour mixed with different nuts and seeds

> (wallnut, hazelnut, cashews, coconut, more rarely peanut and sometimes some

> sesame seeds, also sunflower and pumpkin seed flour; all home ground)

> I only manage to feed my son wiht pancakes for breakfast, so try to vary

> 'the formula' according what available.

> Pancakes are mixed with eggs, water, touch of salt and bicarbonate soda.

> Fried on coconut oil. Spread used is cold pressed honey and for the last 3

> days I gave him some strawberry jam (sweetened by grape juice).

>

> I make muffins for him wiht fresh strawberries added (only fruit he eats

> in them), sweetened by date paste (home made)and I add raisins too. He

> normally eats 2 muffins a day.

>

> Meal time: Roasted chicken or sometimes duck, only rarely roasted red meat

> (he does not like it much), fried meatballs (lamb and beef), soup (chicken

> stock, leeks, broccoli, celery, carrots, onion, bit of pumpkin and red

> lentils to thicken it; all finely mixed) or eggs fried on butter/ sometimes

> boiled after his soup; all except soup served with fresh salad (lettuce,

> cucumber, avocado, onions, peppers, oil/cider viniger dressing)

>

> He drinks fermented goats milk (kefir, initial batch takes about 3 days to

> ferment and consequent ones shorter; kefir was recommended as more superior

> to yougurt by the nutritionalist), in addition he eats some mature cheddar

> made with unpastearused milk.

>

> He has no more than 4-5 dried apricots a day, sometimes a few dates, very

> rarely raisins. I often give him to snack on brasil nuts.

>

> He eats regularly 1 apple and 1 ripe banana a day, in addition he might

> have strawberries (Likes them a lot and has them often), some ripe pear,

> mango, oranges and pineapples (if not having them in juice that day), he

> likes lemon /lemonade with lemon and some honey, 1-2 times a week/)

>

> His baking is done with coconut oil and any other cooking with guss or

> duck fat, olive oil is used only fresh (cold) and only added at the end of

> cooking or in salads.

>

> I make fresh juice for him, mainly pineapple, pear, orange or apple juice.

> It is half diluted with filtered water (Brita filter).

>

> Fruit used is rarely organic as can not afford it all the time, but i wash

> it well or peel it.

>

> I add to his juice ( he gets juice twice a day max) bit of milk thistle,

> legal zinc, think legal Kirkman TMG 750 mg (tmg, but silicone dioxide and

> magnesium stearate also present), in the evening Kirkman L- Glutathione 100

> mg(present plant cellulose, Leucine, Silicon Dioxide), drop of folic acid.

> He gets Bio-Kult probiotic supplement 4 capsules a day (strength min 10

> billion probiotic organisms per gram) in 2 goes.

>

> In school he has his packed lunch.

>

> Hope this makes sense and that to those experienced amongst you it gives

> an indication what I might be doing wrong.

>

> Many thanks and best wishes,

>

> Vesna

>

>

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I forgot to mention that red lentils are also advanced.

> Vesna,

>

> I completely agree with what Patti wrote! If you are not thrilled with

> the results that you get after implementing what she wrote, then I

> would also take out other things as well.

>

> Peanut butter can cause problems. Some children may not tolerate

> carrots or the nut flours/butters during the early days of the diet.

>

> Milk thistle might also cause problems for some children but not

> others. Please read Elaine's comments regarding milk thistle in the

> supplement section of our website.

>

> Mimi

>

>

>

> > Vesna,

> >

> > You need to know that Bio Kult is NOT legal on SCD. It contains 14

> different

> > probiotic strains, most of which are not allowed on SCD.... most

> > specifically, all of the bifidus strains.

> >

> > You said in your earlier post that you started your son on SCD 3 months

> > ago...

> >

> > You are using quite a few advanced foods, so if he is not progressing,

> this

> > may be part of the reason.

> >

> > I would recommend that you go back to all cooked fruits and vegetables

> (and

> > peeled, of course). The ONLY exceptions are ripe banana.... and *possibly*

> > ripe avocado, although even avocado might need to be cooked for some

> > children in the beginning.

> >

> > Dried fruits, whole nuts and raw salads are all much, much too advanced

> for

> > someone so new to the diet.

> >

> > All seeds are considered extremely advanced foods. Coconut is very

> advanced,

> > as well.

> >

> > Unless you made the strawberry jam sweetened with grape juice yourself, it

> > is not legal.

> >

> > The fresh juices you are making yourself.... assuming they are made with

> > the type of juicer that filters out all the pulp and fiber.... are fine

> to

> > use, even if the fruit is not cooked, but all the other raw fruits that he

> > eats (except ripe banana) are not.

> >

> > I'm sorry to give you so many things you need to change.... but I want you

> > to have a good result.

> >

> >

> > Patti

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: SCD diet, for how long

> >

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Thanks for all your replies and hope you give me.

> >

> > Here is the most comprehensive list of foods/supplements I can manage

> > after a busy day:

> >

> > For baking: 1/2 to 2/3 almond flour mixed with different nuts and seeds

> > (wallnut, hazelnut, cashews, coconut, more rarely peanut and sometimes

> some

> > sesame seeds, also sunflower and pumpkin seed flour; all home ground)

> > I only manage to feed my son wiht pancakes for breakfast, so try to vary

> > 'the formula' according what available.

> > Pancakes are mixed with eggs, water, touch of salt and bicarbonate soda.

> > Fried on coconut oil. Spread used is cold pressed honey and for the last 3

> > days I gave him some strawberry jam (sweetened by grape juice).

> >

> > I make muffins for him wiht fresh strawberries added (only fruit he eats

> > in them), sweetened by date paste (home made)and I add raisins too. He

> > normally eats 2 muffins a day.

> >

> > Meal time: Roasted chicken or sometimes duck, only rarely roasted red

> meat

> > (he does not like it much), fried meatballs (lamb and beef), soup (chicken

> > stock, leeks, broccoli, celery, carrots, onion, bit of pumpkin and red

> > lentils to thicken it; all finely mixed) or eggs fried on butter/

> sometimes

> > boiled after his soup; all except soup served with fresh salad (lettuce,

> > cucumber, avocado, onions, peppers, oil/cider viniger dressing)

> >

> > He drinks fermented goats milk (kefir, initial batch takes about 3 days

> to

> > ferment and consequent ones shorter; kefir was recommended as more

> superior

> > to yougurt by the nutritionalist), in addition he eats some mature cheddar

> > made with unpastearused milk.

> >

> > He has no more than 4-5 dried apricots a day, sometimes a few dates,

> very

> > rarely raisins. I often give him to snack on brasil nuts.

> >

> > He eats regularly 1 apple and 1 ripe banana a day, in addition he might

> > have strawberries (Likes them a lot and has them often), some ripe pear,

> > mango, oranges and pineapples (if not having them in juice that day), he

> > likes lemon /lemonade with lemon and some honey, 1-2 times a week/)

> >

> > His baking is done with coconut oil and any other cooking with guss or

> > duck fat, olive oil is used only fresh (cold) and only added at the end of

> > cooking or in salads.

> >

> > I make fresh juice for him, mainly pineapple, pear, orange or apple

> juice.

> > It is half diluted with filtered water (Brita filter).

> >

> > Fruit used is rarely organic as can not afford it all the time, but i

> wash

> > it well or peel it.

> >

> > I add to his juice ( he gets juice twice a day max) bit of milk thistle,

> > legal zinc, think legal Kirkman TMG 750 mg (tmg, but silicone dioxide and

> > magnesium stearate also present), in the evening Kirkman L- Glutathione

> 100

> > mg(present plant cellulose, Leucine, Silicon Dioxide), drop of folic acid.

> > He gets Bio-Kult probiotic supplement 4 capsules a day (strength min 10

> > billion probiotic organisms per gram) in 2 goes.

> >

> > In school he has his packed lunch.

> >

> > Hope this makes sense and that to those experienced amongst you it gives

> > an indication what I might be doing wrong.

> >

> > Many thanks and best wishes,

> >

> > Vesna

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Dear Patti,

Thank you very much for your advice.

Wondering why are some foods considered to be advanced in this context? My son

appears to be digesting it well, his stool is well formed and there are no bits

of undigested food in it, that one can see with the naked eye. He does not have

diarrhoea at all (except light couple days at beginning, when introduced

probiotics) .

Sorry about my ignorance re proper SCD, but starting point for our diet was

given by Dr McBride in Uk (her book Gut and Psychology Syndrom' was

based on SCD, also Bio Kult probiotics recommended by her). At the assessment

she said that my son was not typical of the children she normally sees, not

having a bloated stomach or stomach problems, having rather good home made diet

not heavy on carbs, looking and growing well, no history of antibiotics taking

or MMR, breast fed long time etc. She felt that he was probably born with a

heavy toxic load due to my mercury feelings, thyroid disease etc. She did not

recomment any strict protocol for introduction of particular foods.

Forgot to mention earlier that my son gets fish oils and cod liver oils

(Kirkman). Since my son has been on this diet, he has not lost any weight and

looks well, if that counts for anything.

Best regards, Vesna

Patti wrote:

Vesna,

You need to know that Bio Kult is NOT legal on SCD. It contains 14 different

probiotic strains, most of which are not allowed on SCD.... most specifically,

all of the bifidus strains.

You said in your earlier post that you started your son on SCD 3 months ago...

You are using quite a few advanced foods, so if he is not progressing, this may

be part of the reason.

I would recommend that you go back to all cooked fruits and vegetables (and

peeled, of course). The ONLY exceptions are ripe banana.... and *possibly* ripe

avocado, although even avocado might need to be cooked for some children in the

beginning.

Dried fruits, whole nuts and raw salads are all much, much too advanced for

someone so new to the diet.

All seeds are considered extremely advanced foods. Coconut is very advanced, as

well.

Unless you made the strawberry jam sweetened with grape juice yourself, it is

not legal.

The fresh juices you are making yourself.... assuming they are made with the

type of juicer that filters out all the pulp and fiber.... are fine to use, even

if the fruit is not cooked, but all the other raw fruits that he eats (except

ripe banana) are not.

I'm sorry to give you so many things you need to change.... but I want you to

have a good result.

Patti

[Guest guest]

Vesna,

If your child is doing well, and making the progress you hoped for, then go

ahead and do whatever the doctor tells you to do.

If, however, you want guidance on how to properly implement SCD, we will give

you the advice here that we know WORKS for the majority of children. I know Dr.

-McBride recommends SCD.... but also know that in her book, she does not

suggest introducing foods in order of ease of digestion. That may be fine for

some people.... but is NOT the way Elaine Gottschall recommended, and is NOT

the way we've seen to be successful for most people here. I respect many (not

ALL) of Dr. C-McB's ideas (such as the use of bone broths) and am looking

forward to reading the entire book very soon... I have a copy coming in the

mail.

We can only assume that when a parent comes to our list, asking for help,

wondering why their child isn't making progress, that they need to take a step

back and listen to what works for so MANY. We assume the parent wouldn't even BE

here if everything was going well.

If Dr. C-McB's approach is working well for you, and you wish to include the

Bio-Kult probiotics, that is your decision. I think it's very difficult and

unreasonable to try to follow two different protocols that don't quite agree

with one another.... so you need to choose what you feel is best and what works

for your child.

Patti

Re: SCD diet, for how long

Dear Patti,

Thank you very much for your advice.

Wondering why are some foods considered to be advanced in this context? My son

appears to be digesting it well, his stool is well formed and there are no bits

of undigested food in it, that one can see with the naked eye. He does not have

diarrhoea at all (except light couple days at beginning, when introduced

probiotics) .

Sorry about my ignorance re proper SCD, but starting point for our diet was

given by Dr McBride in Uk (her book Gut and Psychology Syndrom' was

based on SCD, also Bio Kult probiotics recommended by her). At the assessment

she said that my son was not typical of the children she normally sees, not

having a bloated stomach or stomach problems, having rather good home made diet

not heavy on carbs, looking and growing well, no history of antibiotics taking

or MMR, breast fed long time etc. She felt that he was probably born with a

heavy toxic load due to my mercury feelings, thyroid disease etc. She did not

recomment any strict protocol for introduction of particular foods.

Forgot to mention earlier that my son gets fish oils and cod liver oils

(Kirkman). Since my son has been on this diet, he has not lost any weight and

looks well, if that counts for anything.

Best regards, Vesna

Patti wrote:

Vesna,

You need to know that Bio Kult is NOT legal on SCD. It contains 14 different

probiotic strains, most of which are not allowed on SCD.... most specifically,

all of the bifidus strains.

You said in your earlier post that you started your son on SCD 3 months ago...

You are using quite a few advanced foods, so if he is not progressing, this

may be part of the reason.

I would recommend that you go back to all cooked fruits and vegetables (and

peeled, of course). The ONLY exceptions are ripe banana.... and *possibly* ripe

avocado, although even avocado might need to be cooked for some children in the

beginning.

Dried fruits, whole nuts and raw salads are all much, much too advanced for

someone so new to the diet.

All seeds are considered extremely advanced foods. Coconut is very advanced,

as well.

Unless you made the strawberry jam sweetened with grape juice yourself, it is

not legal.

The fresh juices you are making yourself.... assuming they are made with the

type of juicer that filters out all the pulp and fiber.... are fine to use, even

if the fruit is not cooked, but all the other raw fruits that he eats (except

ripe banana) are not.

I'm sorry to give you so many things you need to change.... but I want you to

have a good result.

Patti

[Guest guest]

Hello Vesna,

I have been watching this post closely because I too started diet

based on GAPS. I got terrific results immediately however I felt

that the extra advice through BTVC and SCD just fine tuned everything

nicely. I found that our little one was happier starting from

scratch and building up. As far as the Biokult, I have been using

that too and just seeing how we go. I can see clearly that Elaine

G. really backed up the GAPS book and mentioned it on her website so

as Patti said we have to make a decision on which way to go and stick

to it, otherwise we waste too much time thinking about it and

worrying too. It is obvious that you are taking wonderful care of

your son and should be congratulated. V

> Vesna,

>

> You need to know that Bio Kult is NOT legal on SCD. It contains

14 different probiotic strains, most of which are not allowed on

SCD.... most specifically, all of the bifidus strains.

>

> You said in your earlier post that you started your son on SCD 3

months ago...

>

> You are using quite a few advanced foods, so if he is not

progressing, this may be part of the reason.

>

> I would recommend that you go back to all cooked fruits and

vegetables (and peeled, of course). The ONLY exceptions are ripe

banana.... and *possibly* ripe avocado, although even avocado might

need to be cooked for some children in the beginning.

>

> Dried fruits, whole nuts and raw salads are all much, much too

advanced for someone so new to the diet.

>

> All seeds are considered extremely advanced foods. Coconut is

very advanced, as well.

>

> Unless you made the strawberry jam sweetened with grape juice

yourself, it is not legal.

>

> The fresh juices you are making yourself.... assuming they are

made with the type of juicer that filters out all the pulp and

fiber.... are fine to use, even if the fruit is not cooked, but all

the other raw fruits that he eats (except ripe banana) are not.

>

> I'm sorry to give you so many things you need to change.... but I

want you to have a good result.

>

> Patti

>

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