Re: SCD Diet vs Other Diet

January 27, 2007

When it comes to adapting SCD for kids with yeast issues, you can certainly pull

back on some of the foods that seem to exacerbate yeast. Some parents go easy on

fruits and honey in the beginning. I can re-post some of the messages that

pertain to yeast so you can get an idea of what to do if you want to keep your

child on SCD.

Obviously, it's up to you to decide which diet is best for your child. If you

want to do that other doctor's diet, I'm sure there must be support lists out

there for helping you with that. It's not our place to criticize your decision

to use whatever diet you think is right.... because that is the right course for

your family. It's just that this list isn't the place to debate diets.

All I can personally say about Nystatin is that I am fully aware that many

doctors think the kids should be on it pretty much indefinitely. And I don't

agree. It is my personal opinion, based on first-hand experience and the reports

of MANY other parents on this list, is that Nystatin is not very effective....

and frequently give the added bonus of a re-bound effect..... meaning, MORE

yeast than ever before, once you stop using it. Oh, JOY. It was oh-so-true for

us ith my oldest son when he was very young and had a severe sytemic yeast

infection. In our case, good fresh yogurt worked a thousand times better, within

just one week, than four months of Nystatin (out of pocket, not covered by

insurance, $$$$$).

I'll post the other yeast stuff in a minute.

Patti

SCD Diet vs Other Diet

We're still new to the SCD and continue to have questions. Thanks for all of

the helpful and speedy replies to date.

Here's a question that may get some criticism. Not trying to start any

negative discussions, just trying to gather information on diet that will best

help our son's symptoms. We fully understand this is a list devoted to SCD.

We're still confused about what to cook for a child (with autism) who has been

known to have an excessive amount of yeast overgrowth. No outward gut issues for

over 10 years.

We've been implementing the SCD for about 6-7 weeks. Probably 5 weeks at 100%

legal.

He has transitioned to all of the foods without too many problems.

We've seen no decrease in autism-like symptoms (sleep, behavior, attention,

mood). Not complaining, just an observation. We know it's still early on in the

diet.

Knowing now it's a yeast problem, we've done lots of reading, research.

Some folks on this list may be familiar with Dr. Bruce Semon. He's a child

psychiatrist and a nutritionist treating with autism using anti-yeast therapy

(One of his books: Feast without Yeast)

In brief, he believes that a child/adult with yeast should be treated with a

diet that varies from SCD. He also advocates for nystatin, possibly for long

periods of time.

His diet basically eliminates all fermented foods, nuts, casein, gluten, eggs,

apples, grapes. Very little meat, especially chicken.. Not a complete list.

The difference between the two diets, from what we can see, is that Dr. Semon

allows beans of many kinds (garbanzo), brown rice, potatoes and probably other

foods. We've only looked at the diet in an overview.

As usual, we're confused about the whole diet/yeast issue with regard to our

son.

One observation we have noticed is that when our son drinks either Welches

100% Grape Juice and/or Tropicana Pure Premium (both diluted with filtered

water) he seems more irritable, anxious. He's not a big fan of drinking just

filtered water but we continue to work on that.

Hoping not to be flamed here, just trying to get a better understanding of the

different diets and how they affect people with different or varying gut issues.

Thanks

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January 27, 2007

Have you tried adding in any of the natural antifungals like candex, grapefruit

seed extract, or carrot juice with garlic?

Meleah