Re: Disturbing Email

[Guest guest]

Well said Flo

Pat

Nevada

[Guest guest]

Dear Flo,

Thank you for the kind words about me and my situation. I do not

agree with 's approach or tactics but I do believe she has found

enough information (and not her own opinion) to warrant

investigation. If nothing else she has provided those researching WLS

a place to view many medical studies regarding the MGB/BilrothII.

Granted, they are negative but they are in one place . On the other

hand, Dr. Rutledge has a great site for viewing all the positive

information so researching IS a little easier than it was say 6

months ago .

I would like to clarify one thing.I am not a disgruntled patient

(disgruntled meaning to make discontented or cross). I'm not angry. I

am disappointed.

Thanks

Beth

> Hi Guys:

>

> I know that these messages must be disturbing to you. And some of

you will change your mind about having this surgery. And that is

understandable and that is ok with the rest of us. We don't judge or

try to tell someone else what to do

>

> If we can believe what we read on the internet at all, has

been involved for many years with extremist organizations. She has

blamed the government for the bombing of the federal building in

Oklahoma City; she made a film and made money off the Waco tragedy,

she has unsuccessfuly tried to organize a militia march on Washington

and called for the arrest of some of our representatives; she has

been arrested with firearms; yadda yadda yadda...need I go on. In

essence, this is not your every day fat lady.

>

> This is a person who is involved in extremist organizations. This

is a woman who advocates extreme opinions; extreme measures; extreme

actions against our government; against anyone she has a disagreement

with.

>

> This is a person who was extreme in her adoration of Dr. Rutledge.

Just two weeks before she opened her site up, she asked me to contact

Dr. Rutledge and encourage him to hire her. I'm fond of Dr. R. But I

wouldn't build a web site to worship him. How uncomfortable he must

have been. He is a modest man. He's a good Dr. and a good family man.

>

> She is now extreme in her hatred for him. Everyone has their own

theory as to why. Some believe it was because she wanted a job with

him and he must have known something was " not right " and did not hire

her; some believe it was because he would not do a revision on her

just a few months out..and wanted her to wait a year because that's

what he believes is in our best medical interest.. Not too many of us

believe that she had surgery and is now very sick and she only had

the surgery because she didn't do any research and suddenly

discovered that there are lots of negative things to read out there

and then twist them to apply to the MGB. It really doesn't matter

why. Hatred such as she is stirring is extreme and is suspect. This

is not to be taken lightly. She has called people on their jobs; she

is doing many, many bizaare and EXTREME things. Please consider from

where you received these messages before you allow them to disturb

your serenity.

>

> This is not about saving anyone's life. This is about a vendetta

against one man. This is about trying to destry one man and a medical

practice that he has worked many years to build. This is EXTREME.

This is not run of the mill, everyday, normal thinking. This is

bizaare.

>

> What you decide in terms of having surgery is your business. It's a

big decision and you have to do what's best for you. But please take

what is said with a grain of salt and please take the personal

attacks against Dr. Rutledge with a box of salt. He is not slick;

cunning; yadda yadda. He has more business than he can handle. He

isn't trying to drum up any more. If you looked at the site you

could see that the largest single occupational group to have MGB is

nurses...48 of them..more every day. That speaks volumes. And once

you meet him, you see that he is a bundle of energy; is a computer

whiz and that the web page is a reflection of combining his medical

expertise with his love of computers and what can be done with them.

>

> And please do not answer those posts. Please do not expose yourself

to verbal abuse by posting on the TRUTH (what a misnomer) site

either. You don't want a call at work or other inappropriate contact.

Please believe me when I say that people who are this EXTREME are

dangerous.

>

> Others have tried to reach her. Others have tried to suggest that

she has every right to her feelings but to set out to destroy one man

for whatever reason is EXTREME, NOT NORMAL AND IS BIZAARE.

>

> For my part, I will not take the word of someone who believes the

government blew up the federal building. I will not take the word of

someone who has been arrested with firearms. I made a living helping

to put people like that behind bars.

>

> All any of us on this group can tell you is our personal

experience. Some of us have great experiences..I'm one of those..some

of us have had problems. Those with problems have been equally vocal.

If you're looking to hear about folks who have had complications,

please ask us. We'll refer you to them if they aren't actively

posting and they'll be glad to tell you all about it. I have no

medical expertise at all. I don't want to. When I have a medical

question I call my Dr. and he tells me. I pay him for his opinion

when I see him. I don't want to go to medical school so I have to

rely on him. He is referring other patients to Dr. Rutledge..I trust

my Dr. not an EXTREMIST lawyer with a hankering to sue a good man and

destroy a long and honorable medical career.

>

> Beth is on our list. She has had complications and what she

considers a bad experience. She is handling things in a " normal " way.

She says she is sorry she ever had the surgery. She is disgruntled

with Dr. R. He is human, not a saint, after all. But she is doing it

in a way that is within " normal " limits. She's not nuts about it..she

is unhappy, disgruntled, and has some very valid concerns about MGB.

With 932 surgeries there are bound to be others but we haven't heard

from them. I say this simply to point out that there is room for

negative opinions. There are not 932 happy people, there are a few

less than that. And Beth is handling her negative view in a very

positive way..in a normal way..in a way that is acceptable and the

way it should be handled. She's willing to be upfront about her

complications, her disatisfaction with Dr. R and with the surgery.

But she isn't using EXTREME scare tactics. That is credible. What she

says should be weighed.

>

> OK. You can hit delete now. But I feel a hell of a lot better

getting this off my 38D (formerly 44DD)chest.

>

> Flo in land

[Guest guest]

Hi Guys:

I know that these messages must be disturbing to you. And some of you will

change your mind about having this surgery. And that is understandable and that

is ok with the rest of us. We don't judge or try to tell someone else what to do

If we can believe what we read on the internet at all, has been involved

for many years with extremist organizations. She has blamed the government for

the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City; she made a film and made

money off the Waco tragedy, she has unsuccessfuly tried to organize a militia

march on Washington and called for the arrest of some of our representatives;

she has been arrested with firearms; yadda yadda yadda...need I go on. In

essence, this is not your every day fat lady.

This is a person who is involved in extremist organizations. This is a woman who

advocates extreme opinions; extreme measures; extreme actions against our

government; against anyone she has a disagreement with.

This is a person who was extreme in her adoration of Dr. Rutledge. Just two

weeks before she opened her site up, she asked me to contact Dr. Rutledge and

encourage him to hire her. I'm fond of Dr. R. But I wouldn't build a web site to

worship him. How uncomfortable he must have been. He is a modest man. He's a

good Dr. and a good family man.

She is now extreme in her hatred for him. Everyone has their own theory as to

why. Some believe it was because she wanted a job with him and he must have

known something was " not right " and did not hire her; some believe it was

because he would not do a revision on her just a few months out..and wanted her

to wait a year because that's what he believes is in our best medical interest..

Not too many of us believe that she had surgery and is now very sick and she

only had the surgery because she didn't do any research and suddenly discovered

that there are lots of negative things to read out there and then twist them to

apply to the MGB. It really doesn't matter why. Hatred such as she is stirring

is extreme and is suspect. This is not to be taken lightly. She has called

people on their jobs; she is doing many, many bizaare and EXTREME things. Please

consider from where you received these messages before you allow them to disturb

your serenity.

This is not about saving anyone's life. This is about a vendetta against one

man. This is about trying to destry one man and a medical practice that he has

worked many years to build. This is EXTREME. This is not run of the mill,

everyday, normal thinking. This is bizaare.

What you decide in terms of having surgery is your business. It's a big decision

and you have to do what's best for you. But please take what is said with a

grain of salt and please take the personal attacks against Dr. Rutledge with a

box of salt. He is not slick; cunning; yadda yadda. He has more business than he

can handle. He isn't trying to drum up any more. If you looked at the site you

could see that the largest single occupational group to have MGB is nurses...48

of them..more every day. That speaks volumes. And once you meet him, you see

that he is a bundle of energy; is a computer whiz and that the web page is a

reflection of combining his medical expertise with his love of computers and

what can be done with them.

And please do not answer those posts. Please do not expose yourself to verbal

abuse by posting on the TRUTH (what a misnomer) site either. You don't want a

call at work or other inappropriate contact. Please believe me when I say that

people who are this EXTREME are dangerous.

Others have tried to reach her. Others have tried to suggest that she has every

right to her feelings but to set out to destroy one man for whatever reason is

EXTREME, NOT NORMAL AND IS BIZAARE.

For my part, I will not take the word of someone who believes the government

blew up the federal building. I will not take the word of someone who has been

arrested with firearms. I made a living helping to put people like that behind

bars.

All any of us on this group can tell you is our personal experience. Some of us

have great experiences..I'm one of those..some of us have had problems. Those

with problems have been equally vocal. If you're looking to hear about folks who

have had complications, please ask us. We'll refer you to them if they aren't

actively posting and they'll be glad to tell you all about it. I have no medical

expertise at all. I don't want to. When I have a medical question I call my Dr.

and he tells me. I pay him for his opinion when I see him. I don't want to go to

medical school so I have to rely on him. He is referring other patients to Dr.

Rutledge..I trust my Dr. not an EXTREMIST lawyer with a hankering to sue a good

man and destroy a long and honorable medical career.

Beth is on our list. She has had complications and what she considers a bad

experience. She is handling things in a " normal " way. She says she is sorry she

ever had the surgery. She is disgruntled with Dr. R. He is human, not a saint,

after all. But she is doing it in a way that is within " normal " limits. She's

not nuts about it..she is unhappy, disgruntled, and has some very valid concerns

about MGB. With 932 surgeries there are bound to be others but we haven't heard

from them. I say this simply to point out that there is room for negative

opinions. There are not 932 happy people, there are a few less than that. And

Beth is handling her negative view in a very positive way..in a normal way..in a

way that is acceptable and the way it should be handled. She's willing to be

upfront about her complications, her disatisfaction with Dr. R and with the

surgery. But she isn't using EXTREME scare tactics. That is credible. What she

says should be weighed.

OK. You can hit delete now. But I feel a hell of a lot better getting this off

my 38D (formerly 44DD)chest.

Flo in land

[Guest guest]

Hello Flo darlin'!!

As always, such encouraging words from you. What in the world would we do

without you???!!!!

With love,

in Raleigh

MGB 11/22/99 270 size 24

10/18/00 147 size 10

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/18/00 9:47:59 AM Central Daylight Time,

comic@... writes:

<< WOW!! THERESA!!

Those are some 'stats' you lookin' good now, girl!!

I'm going to do the same thing !!

Trudy/Indiana

pre-op >>

You're a trip Trudy!!! I would love to get up with you guys when you come to

town, especially if you get your 11/02 date. That's my real birthday and my

re-birthday is 11/22. I live in Raleigh, about 20 minutes from Durhan

Regional so keep me informed, OK?

in Raleigh

MGB 11/22/99 270 size 24

10/18/00 147 size 10

[Guest guest]

WOW!! THERESA!!

Those are some 'stats' you lookin' good now, girl!!

I'm going to do the same thing !!

Trudy/Indiana

pre-op

but ready!!!!!!

Re: Disturbing Email

Hello Flo darlin'!!

As always, such encouraging words from you. What in the world would we do

without you???!!!!

With love,

in Raleigh

MGB 11/22/99 270 size 24

10/18/00 147 size 10

[Guest guest]

You can bet on it, ...

Love to see you, girl!! Inspiration is exactly what I'm gonna need right before

or immediately after surgery!!

Soon then,

Trudy

Re: Disturbing Email

In a message dated 10/18/00 9:47:59 AM Central Daylight Time,

comic@... writes:

<< WOW!! THERESA!!

Those are some 'stats' you lookin' good now, girl!!

I'm going to do the same thing !!

Trudy/Indiana

pre-op >>

You're a trip Trudy!!! I would love to get up with you guys when you come to

town, especially if you get your 11/02 date. That's my real birthday and my

re-birthday is 11/22. I live in Raleigh, about 20 minutes from Durhan

Regional so keep me informed, OK?

in Raleigh

MGB 11/22/99 270 size 24

10/18/00 147 size 10