Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Is it OK to eat only meat for a while? That is what our son is doing right now. Apples are the only fruit he would eat before SCD and now they have to be cooked. Veggies were limited to raw pre SCD and now they have to be cooked too. Sneaking them into other foods will not work as he will not eat them fixed that way - for example a chicken nugget - he did not eat that type of food before SCD (we never fed it to him either). Smoothie - forget it. Juice - has not been in our home in years. Yogurt - now there is a funny one to try to get him to eat - fruit popsicles either. He did not eat yogurt before nor popsicles. Though tonight he did eat one baby carrot - I just put it on his plate and said one carrot for your veggies today. We all acted silly about the horrors of a veggie; then he ate it. (12 yr old humor at work here) I'm hoping he will branch out soon as before age 6 he would eat anything healthy we put in front of him. - Zachariah, 12 yr, dyslexic, dysgraphic - SCD 1-07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hi , Welcome to the list. Eskimos used to only eat mostly meat in the past but they made sure that it was fatty meat. For example, give him the leg and thigh of the chicken rather than the breast. http://www.discover.com/issues/oct-04/features/inuit-paradox/?page=3 I am not sure that an all meat diet would be optimal in the long term since we cannot easily find wild animals. However, it might be OK as a a transition to SCD. If the refusal to eat other foods continues then please get the help of SCD counselors. In the early 1900's, children with celiac were put on a meat only diet. SCD was developed in order to give these kids the chance for eating carbs. SCD is about eating a balanced diet. I am thrilled that he ate the carrot. How about sneaking a minute amount of veggies in a hamburger patty and then slowly increase it? Parents are very pleased and surprised as their children start to like other foods after being on SCD. mimi > Is it OK to eat only meat for a while? That is what our son is doing right > now. Apples are the only fruit he would eat before SCD and now they have to > be cooked. Veggies were limited to raw pre SCD and now they have to be > cooked too. Sneaking them into other foods will not work as he will not eat > them fixed that way - for example a chicken nugget - he did not eat that > type of food before SCD (we never fed it to him either). Smoothie - forget > it. Juice - has not been in our home in years. Yogurt - now there is a > funny one to try to get him to eat - fruit popsicles either. He did not eat > yogurt before nor popsicles. Though tonight he did eat one baby carrot - > I just put it on his plate and said one carrot for your veggies today. We > all acted silly about the horrors of a veggie; then he ate it. (12 yr old > humor at work here) > > I'm hoping he will branch out soon as before age 6 he would eat anything > healthy we put in front of him. > > > - Zachariah, 12 yr, dyslexic, dysgraphic - SCD 1-07 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hamburger patty - I'll try that - forgot that one. Though he has fantastic taste buds. I used to try the blending and sneaking veggies in before SCD and he always knew - " Mom what did you do to the soup. It looks different and tastes different? " I'm hoping as things die off - a more " normal " eating pattern will resurface eventually. As I said, he used to eat a wide variety. How long do you think I should let this continue before contacting a counselor? Would three months be too long? Kind of searching for a parameter/guide to go by. Would we be risking constipation if he eats only meat that long? I'm remembering some of the problems the and team had when they ate only meat for months on end. Difference in genetics / how the different cultures evolved over time I suppose. I guess I'll talk to him about this risk and ask him to mark a calendar when he has a BM and that way we'd know if a problem develops. Right now his pre-SCD " normal " pattern has been to have a BM every 2-3 days. (my pattern my whole life too) So if it goes longer than that I should worry right? I know we are trying to get his gut healed so he goes every day, but for now? Thanks! W. - Zachariah age 12, dyslexic,dysgraphic, adhd, SCD 1-07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I can tell you that one of the families I'm working with right now has been dealing with the same thing... a child that wants to eat massive amounts of meat and very little else, although they were managing to get small amounts of squash and green beans in, pureed and mixed into his meat patties. Even with that, not only did this result in constipation, but the child recently ended up in ketosis. You can Google that for more info, but basically it's when the body is not getting any carbs for fuel and is being forced to burn fat for fuel. Ketones are the residue from that process that are spilled into the urine, so can be measured by special urine dip sticks. They had also noticed that his breath had a funny " chemical " smell.... though slightly sweet. You might compare it to acetone, or nail polish remover. Under doctors orders, this family had to force their child to eat some cooked fruits, juices, etc. to get him out of ketosis. The body also gets very acidic when eating only meat, so it's certainly not a healthy situation. If you were one of my clients, I would be strongly urging you to do whatever you can to get some legal carbs into him NOW. If he has accepted any sort of popsicle prior to this, I would strongly advise trying to do some pureed fruit sauces and just freeze them into popsicles. Or if he's wanting something crunchy, just steam some slices of apples or pears, freeze them on a cookie sheet and let him eat them frozen. Some kids just hate the mushy texture of cooked fruits but will accept them this way. Going only every 2 or 3 days might be " normal " for you, but I would consider that to be a form of chronic constipation. Really not good.... so REALLY not good to go even longer than that without a BM. Patti Re: Meat only OK for a while? Hamburger patty - I'll try that - forgot that one. Though he has fantastic taste buds. I used to try the blending and sneaking veggies in before SCD and he always knew - " Mom what did you do to the soup. It looks different and tastes different? " I'm hoping as things die off - a more " normal " eating pattern will resurface eventually. As I said, he used to eat a wide variety. How long do you think I should let this continue before contacting a counselor? Would three months be too long? Kind of searching for a parameter/guide to go by. Would we be risking constipation if he eats only meat that long? I'm remembering some of the problems the and team had when they ate only meat for months on end. Difference in genetics / how the different cultures evolved over time I suppose. I guess I'll talk to him about this risk and ask him to mark a calendar when he has a BM and that way we'd know if a problem develops. Right now his pre-SCD " normal " pattern has been to have a BM every 2-3 days. (my pattern my whole life too) So if it goes longer than that I should worry right? I know we are trying to get his gut healed so he goes every day, but for now? Thanks! W. - Zachariah age 12, dyslexic,dysgraphic, adhd, SCD 1-07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 You might need an antioxidant like Vit. C if he only wants to eat meat & maybe even enzymes to help break down the proteins. Meat is a fast oxidizer. Jenn L Re: Meat only OK for a while? Hamburger patty - I'll try that - forgot that one. Though he has fantastic taste buds. I used to try the blending and sneaking veggies in before SCD and he always knew - " Mom what did you do to the soup. It looks different and tastes different? " I'm hoping as things die off - a more " normal " eating pattern will resurface eventually. As I said, he used to eat a wide variety. How long do you think I should let this continue before contacting a counselor? Would three months be too long? Kind of searching for a parameter/guide to go by. Would we be risking constipation if he eats only meat that long? I'm remembering some of the problems the and team had when they ate only meat for months on end. Difference in genetics / how the different cultures evolved over time I suppose. I guess I'll talk to him about this risk and ask him to mark a calendar when he has a BM and that way we'd know if a problem develops. Right now his pre-SCD " normal " pattern has been to have a BM every 2-3 days. (my pattern my whole life too) So if it goes longer than that I should worry right? I know we are trying to get his gut healed so he goes every day, but for now? Thanks! W. - Zachariah age 12, dyslexic,dysgraphic, adhd, SCD 1-07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Patti, Thank you so much - as this was my concern. We will do something to get legal carbs into him today. I'll do some more research into recipes today. Carbs are legal fruits and veggies - right? He has never eaten popsicles in his life. Plain shaved ice is one of his favorites but that is not what we are looking for of course. I may resort to paying him - sometimes that works We will obviously talk to him / read him your email about the child with the Ketosis problem. I think reminding him about the Louis and Team will also be beneficial - as I remember when he was fascinated with them and their trip. I put " normal " BM in quotes because I'm learning/have learned after reading BVC plus other research that twice a week is NOT normal - even though many doctors over the years have always told me that many people just go every few days and that is normal for them Hubby and I both are doing this diet to heal our guts too. Hubby has IB. We had our son genetic tested for gluten in Nov. and he has both genetic strands for it, so that means hubby and I both have it too - so we will all be grain free forever even after we heal our guts. Hubby and I went 100% grain free/sugar free/processed free for a year (a year ago) and I got rid of my migraines and yeast (which I'd had ever since I'd gotten married 22 yrs ago) - Doctors always said some people just have yeast problems - grrrrrrr Then my dad died and grains/sugar/over processed foods just crept back in last summer. But the yeast and headaches are still gone. We did not use nut flour or honey - did not know nut flours existed and I think we missed having the baked goods that we will be able to have with SCD. Thanks! W. - Zachariah age 12, dyslexic,dysgraphic, adhd, SCD 1-07 Re: Re: Meat only OK for a while?._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 <<Carbs are legal fruits and veggies - right?>> Yes.... fruits, fruit juices, and vegetables. The body just needs carbohydrate in some form. It doesn't care what kind of carb, as long as it gets carbohydrate. The best veggies to shoot for if you're not able to get him to eat many, are those that are naturally higher in carbs... carrots, yellow squash... those would be good choices. If you have a juicer, you can juice fresh raw fruits and veggies... they would not need to be cooked, as long as the juicer is the type that strains out all the pulp and fiber. Go easy on those fresh juices at first, though.... dilute! Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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