Re: newer member stool, cooking question

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Aimee,

I'm a little bit confused. You are not using sunflower seeds now, right? They

would be legal, but very advanced foods.... so should not be brought back into

his diet yet.

I'm not sure why you are seeing " pencil eraser " sized bits in his stool. Bits

of what? I'm just not sure. Many young children do not chew very well. I

puree almost all of my own daughter's foods for that reason. It's more important

to me that all the nutrients are available and that foods are as easy to digest

as possible for now.

Some kids do not digest carrots well. If you try pureeing them, and you still

see it undigested in his stool, then try switching to butternut squash. If not,

then it was likely just the fact that he doesn't chew well enough yet.

If you're cooking potatoes, you really need to cook them in a separate pan from

his food. You could still cook the onion in with the meat, and just pull it

out..... because he may not quite be ready for onion yet, although it is legal.

But potatoes need to be cooked separately and kept separate.... because some of

the potato is inevitably going to end up in or on some of his food.

The soup broth is a really good healing food for the gut.... so you might

consider " sneaking " some of it in with his diluted juice. Increase the amount

slowly so that he's getting more and more broth (can be cold... not a problem).

Everything else about what you're currently feeding him looks okay. You'll see a

lot of changes in the beginning days and weeks..... in stools and in how he

feels.... so nothing surprising there. Keep up the good work.

Patti

newer member stool, cooking question

Hello! I have a couple of questions so I'll give you some background

first.

My son is two and has been diag. with Leaky Gut. After reading the

SCD site we cut out all starches/sugars etc. while we read the book

and began our meals list. We started with the into. diet. My son

refused to eat the soup and we did the into. for two days. That was

two weeks ago.

He is taking the Kirkman Acidophilus, L-Glutamine and Caprylic acid

for the candida. (when he started Acidoph the very next BMs were

liquid-for three days only)

It took a few days to get all of my home cooking, juices etc.

completely legal. We also started giving him the epson salts baths. I

was really ready for some horrible die off symptoms. I don't think we

have seen much.

Here are my stool questions. He used to loose BM 7-10 times a day.

Within the first days of no starch etc. he passed large mushy stools

and sometimes completely liquid. Since the first 3-4 days of those,

the BMs now remain 3 ish times a day and formed. And he's back to

sleeping thru the night like his pre 'food' days of life.

*But I noticed what looked like sunflower seeds sized food in the

BMs. Is it possible that the large of amount of sunflower seeds that

we used to eat are just now making an appearance?

Since everything is cooked and legal, why am I still seeing pencil

eraser sized bits in his BM? Even if it's food he's been eatting and

nothing new added. Are we doing something wrong?

I never inspected BMs of non leaky gut people before, is this normal?

*After eatting really cooked carrots for dinner last night, his BM

was full of little orange specs this am. So is that normal? Or are

we needing to cut them out?

Last question

*If we make a roast for example and we don't give him the onions,

celery, potatos etc. are the potatos going to 'contaminate' the foods

he is eatting? I understand that we couldn't use illegal spices and

expect the food he's eatting to be fine. So is the same true for the

large illegals?

Foods he's eatting-dairy & nut free for previous issues

Eggs

ripe Banana pancakes, honey, vanilla pure extract

cooked Butternut squash, cinnamon (no filler)

Boiled chicken, baked pork chops

cooked Green beans(new as of friday)

ripe avocados

applesauce (made it myself)

buffalo groud, steak etc.

garlic, pepper, salt, olive oil

cooked carrots

welchs white grape juice cut with 1/2 water

he recently snuck a couple bites of aspargus spears, appeared ok

Thank you for your time and advice.

:)Aimee

son 2 yr, healing leaky gut, SCD 2 weeks

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Patti,

Regarding unchewed carrots...

If you determine that your child digests pureed carrots, but doesn't chew them

very well when they are not pureed (hense they appear in the stool) then are

whole cooked carrots okay for the non-chewer or not okay?

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Patti wrote:

Aimee,

I'm a little bit confused. You are not using sunflower seeds now, right? They

would be legal, but very advanced foods.... so should not be brought back into

his diet yet.

I'm not sure why you are seeing " pencil eraser " sized bits in his stool. Bits of

what? I'm just not sure. Many young children do not chew very well. I puree

almost all of my own daughter's foods for that reason. It's more important to me

that all the nutrients are available and that foods are as easy to digest as

possible for now.

Some kids do not digest carrots well. If you try pureeing them, and you still

see it undigested in his stool, then try switching to butternut squash. If not,

then it was likely just the fact that he doesn't chew well enough yet.

If you're cooking potatoes, you really need to cook them in a separate pan from

his food. You could still cook the onion in with the meat, and just pull it

out..... because he may not quite be ready for onion yet, although it is legal.

But potatoes need to be cooked separately and kept separate.... because some of

the potato is inevitably going to end up in or on some of his food.

The soup broth is a really good healing food for the gut.... so you might

consider " sneaking " some of it in with his diluted juice. Increase the amount

slowly so that he's getting more and more broth (can be cold... not a problem).

Everything else about what you're currently feeding him looks okay. You'll see a

lot of changes in the beginning days and weeks..... in stools and in how he

feels.... so nothing surprising there. Keep up the good work.

Patti

newer member stool, cooking question

Hello! I have a couple of questions so I'll give you some background

first.

My son is two and has been diag. with Leaky Gut. After reading the

SCD site we cut out all starches/sugars etc. while we read the book

and began our meals list. We started with the into. diet. My son

refused to eat the soup and we did the into. for two days. That was

two weeks ago.

He is taking the Kirkman Acidophilus, L-Glutamine and Caprylic acid

for the candida. (when he started Acidoph the very next BMs were

liquid-for three days only)

It took a few days to get all of my home cooking, juices etc.

completely legal. We also started giving him the epson salts baths. I

was really ready for some horrible die off symptoms. I don't think we

have seen much.

Here are my stool questions. He used to loose BM 7-10 times a day.

Within the first days of no starch etc. he passed large mushy stools

and sometimes completely liquid. Since the first 3-4 days of those,

the BMs now remain 3 ish times a day and formed. And he's back to

sleeping thru the night like his pre 'food' days of life.

*But I noticed what looked like sunflower seeds sized food in the

BMs. Is it possible that the large of amount of sunflower seeds that

we used to eat are just now making an appearance?

Since everything is cooked and legal, why am I still seeing pencil

eraser sized bits in his BM? Even if it's food he's been eatting and

nothing new added. Are we doing something wrong?

I never inspected BMs of non leaky gut people before, is this normal?

*After eatting really cooked carrots for dinner last night, his BM

was full of little orange specs this am. So is that normal? Or are

we needing to cut them out?

Last question

*If we make a roast for example and we don't give him the onions,

celery, potatos etc. are the potatos going to 'contaminate' the foods

he is eatting? I understand that we couldn't use illegal spices and

expect the food he's eatting to be fine. So is the same true for the

large illegals?

Foods he's eatting-dairy & nut free for previous issues

Eggs

ripe Banana pancakes, honey, vanilla pure extract

cooked Butternut squash, cinnamon (no filler)

Boiled chicken, baked pork chops

cooked Green beans(new as of friday)

ripe avocados

applesauce (made it myself)

buffalo groud, steak etc.

garlic, pepper, salt, olive oil

cooked carrots

welchs white grape juice cut with 1/2 water

he recently snuck a couple bites of aspargus spears, appeared ok

Thank you for your time and advice.

:)Aimee

son 2 yr, healing leaky gut, SCD 2 weeks

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I can answer one of your questions. Yes, he can be passing stuff that's been

sitting there for God only knows how long. It happened to my entire family.

If you want a little encouragment, go to the DAN! conference videos and look

at the one called, " DAN Stands for Diet's are Non-Negotible " You'll feel great

after you see that, and be a lot better prepared.

Aimee wrote:

Hello! I have a couple of questions so I'll give you some background

first.

My son is two and has been diag. with Leaky Gut. After reading the

SCD site we cut out all starches/sugars etc. while we read the book

and began our meals list. We started with the into. diet. My son

refused to eat the soup and we did the into. for two days. That was

two weeks ago.

He is taking the Kirkman Acidophilus, L-Glutamine and Caprylic acid

for the candida. (when he started Acidoph the very next BMs were

liquid-for three days only)

It took a few days to get all of my home cooking, juices etc.

completely legal. We also started giving him the epson salts baths. I

was really ready for some horrible die off symptoms. I don't think we

have seen much.

Here are my stool questions. He used to loose BM 7-10 times a day.

Within the first days of no starch etc. he passed large mushy stools

and sometimes completely liquid. Since the first 3-4 days of those,

the BMs now remain 3 ish times a day and formed. And he's back to

sleeping thru the night like his pre 'food' days of life.

*But I noticed what looked like sunflower seeds sized food in the

BMs. Is it possible that the large of amount of sunflower seeds that

we used to eat are just now making an appearance?

Since everything is cooked and legal, why am I still seeing pencil

eraser sized bits in his BM? Even if it's food he's been eatting and

nothing new added. Are we doing something wrong?

I never inspected BMs of non leaky gut people before, is this normal?

*After eatting really cooked carrots for dinner last night, his BM

was full of little orange specs this am. So is that normal? Or are

we needing to cut them out?

Last question

*If we make a roast for example and we don't give him the onions,

celery, potatos etc. are the potatos going to 'contaminate' the foods

he is eatting? I understand that we couldn't use illegal spices and

expect the food he's eatting to be fine. So is the same true for the

large illegals?

Foods he's eatting-dairy & nut free for previous issues

Eggs

ripe Banana pancakes, honey, vanilla pure extract

cooked Butternut squash, cinnamon (no filler)

Boiled chicken, baked pork chops

cooked Green beans(new as of friday)

ripe avocados

applesauce (made it myself)

buffalo groud, steak etc.

garlic, pepper, salt, olive oil

cooked carrots

welchs white grape juice cut with 1/2 water

he recently snuck a couple bites of aspargus spears, appeared ok

Thank you for your time and advice.

:)Aimee

son 2 yr, healing leaky gut, SCD 2 weeks

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,

If you are meaning.... " Is it still okay to feed whole (not pureed) carrots to

my child who isn't chewing them well so I'm seeing chunks of it in his

stool? " .... the technical answer is always this:

Whatever isn't being digested well *can* feed gut pathogens. They are " legal " ,

but probably not a good choice for him right now. Just because something is

legal, doesn't mean it's a good choice for any one person. When his gut has

healed more, he might be able to break them down better, even if he doesn't chew

as well as he should.

Are you meaning, " Are PUREED whole cooked carrots okay? " ?

Yes, they're okay. I mean, you have to sort of determine that by what you see

in the stool. If you just see bright orange pureed carrot..... looking just

exactly like it did when it went in, then it might not be getting digested well,

and is just passing through.

BUT, then you also need to look at whether or not it's causing looser stools....

and whether or not your child seems " better " in other ways. We do have to keep

in mind that anything the body cannot digest *CAN* be feeding bad bugs.

Pureeing just breaks it down as much as possible, making it so the digestive

tract has to do less work.

We have to keep in mind that those bright orange veggies are going to show

*somewhat* in the stool, even if pureed first, just because of the

beta-carotene. So, it's really hard for me to tell you... from across cyber

space.... whether your child is digesting them or not. You have to get good at

poo analysis, and trust your instincts. If in doubt, leave them out... and try

butternut squash instead.

Patti

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Patti,

Regarding unchewed carrots...

If you determine that your child digests pureed carrots, but doesn't chew them

very well when they are not pureed (hense they appear in the stool) then are

whole cooked carrots okay for the non-chewer or not okay?

-

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Thank you for helping me process. No we're definitely not eating seeds. But

someone replied that they saw food from before SCD in their families BM's too.

So it's probably just some clean up of the old coming out.

The food I am seeing looks like it's probably chicken. So he's probably not

chewing well. I stopped giving him meat pieces and started making patties with

all of the meat. Hopefully that will work.

He used to love chicken soup. So I'm going to try it again and not blend the

carrots back into the broth. And then use the chicken for patties. Hopefully it

was the color that made him not want to try it.

If a person eats a legal, although advanced food, do we start the diet over?

Or is that just for illegals? I read a lot about starting over.

I'm also a bit curious about this. Does it negate the benefits of SCD for a

person to eat mostly SCD and then pasta etc. away from the family? I'm sending

SCD for my daughter's lunches. But she also gets occasional bread. She's on the

diet for my ease and to support her brother.

By the way, since starting the diet my son is sleeping thru the night. And

he's calmer. The brain/gut connection is amazing.

Thank you for your time.

Aimee

2 yr old son, healing leaky gut, scd 3 weeks

Patti wrote:

Aimee,

I'm a little bit confused. You are not using sunflower seeds now, right? They

would be legal, but very advanced foods.... so should not be brought back into

his diet yet.

I'm not sure why you are seeing " pencil eraser " sized bits in his stool. Bits of

what? I'm just not sure. Many young children do not chew very well. I puree

almost all of my own daughter's foods for that reason. It's more important to me

that all the nutrients are available and that foods are as easy to digest as

possible for now.

Some kids do not digest carrots well. If you try pureeing them, and you still

see it undigested in his stool, then try switching to butternut squash. If not,

then it was likely just the fact that he doesn't chew well enough yet.

If you're cooking potatoes, you really need to cook them in a separate pan from

his food. You could still cook the onion in with the meat, and just pull it

out..... because he may not quite be ready for onion yet, although it is legal.

But potatoes need to be cooked separately and kept separate.... because some of

the potato is inevitably going to end up in or on some of his food.

The soup broth is a really good healing food for the gut.... so you might

consider " sneaking " some of it in with his diluted juice. Increase the amount

slowly so that he's getting more and more broth (can be cold... not a problem).

Everything else about what you're currently feeding him looks okay. You'll see a

lot of changes in the beginning days and weeks..... in stools and in how he

feels.... so nothing surprising there. Keep up the good work.

Patti

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Aimee,

You wrote:

<<If a person eats a legal, although advanced food, do we start the diet over?

Or is that just for illegals? I read a lot about starting over.>>

I don't think you have to re-start with Intro. Just go back to simpler,

all-cooked foods. Just back up.

Some people DO like to go back and re-do the Intro Diet, sometimes a few times,

just to get a jump start on the next level of healing. It's not required.... and

it really depends on the individual situation.

<<I'm also a bit curious about this. Does it negate the benefits of SCD for a

person to eat mostly SCD and then pasta etc. away from the family? I'm sending

SCD for my daughter's lunches. But she also gets occasional bread. She's on the

diet for my ease and to support her brother.>>

If your daughter is only on SCD to make things easier for you.... and in support

of her brother.... but she has no gut issues or problems, then I don't think

there's anything wrong with her eating pasta or bread once in a while. Even

*almost* SCD is probably a lot healthier than a Standard American Diet. If she

has some gut issue that you were hoping would improve with SCD, she'd probably

really need to be 100% on it.

<<By the way, since starting the diet my son is sleeping thru the night. And

he's calmer. The brain/gut connection is amazing.>>

Great news!

Patti

Re: newer member stool, cooking question

Thank you for helping me process. No we're definitely not eating seeds. But

someone replied that they saw food from before SCD in their families BM's too.

So it's probably just some clean up of the old coming out.

The food I am seeing looks like it's probably chicken. So he's probably not

chewing well. I stopped giving him meat pieces and started making patties with

all of the meat. Hopefully that will work.

He used to love chicken soup. So I'm going to try it again and not blend the

carrots back into the broth. And then use the chicken for patties. Hopefully it

was the color that made him not want to try it.

If a person eats a legal, although advanced food, do we start the diet over?

Or is that just for illegals? I read a lot about starting over.

I'm also a bit curious about this. Does it negate the benefits of SCD for a

person to eat mostly SCD and then pasta etc. away from the family? I'm sending

SCD for my daughter's lunches. But she also gets occasional bread. She's on the

diet for my ease and to support her brother.

By the way, since starting the diet my son is sleeping thru the night. And

he's calmer. The brain/gut connection is amazing.

Thank you for your time.

Aimee

2 yr old son, healing leaky gut, scd 3 weeks

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