Re: Still Constipated

March 29, 2007

, you said: I even tried a castor oil pack

which did work very well and got quite a bit of junk out of there but I know

that's not SCD legal.

Why wouldn't it be okay if they are used on the outside of the body? Also we

need to increase our good fats to prevent constipation here. olive oil, butter,

coconut oil. Maybe it would help your situation. Pearl

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March 29, 2007

mY son has problems with constipation- he went to a

gastroenterologist and he had a colon twice the size it should have

been. Well, anyway, by using saccharomyces boullardii, probiotics,

and DULCOLAX suppositories, it is not normal size.

We still give him suppositories every day-the gastroenterologist said

it was safe-all it does it make the colon contract-it doesn't mess

with your electrolytes or anything. It is a good option-try them. I

know this is off topic but we also potty trained him using the

laxatives. It is very hard to potty train an autistic child that

doesnt have regular BM's.

>

> , you said: I even tried a

castor oil pack which did work very well and got quite a bit of junk

out of there but I know that's not SCD legal.

>

> Why wouldn't it be okay if they are used on the outside of the

body? Also we need to increase our good fats to prevent constipation

here. olive oil, butter, coconut oil. Maybe it would help your

situation. Pearl

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March 29, 2007

,

Well probiotics really are essential.... from the beginning, if you're not using

SCD yogurt. I don't know for sure if they will help right away, but when you

think about it, we do SCD to starve out the " bad guys " and get rid of the

bacteria and yeast that have overgrown and taken over..... but we MUST

repopulate the gut with " good guys " , in order to have a gut that is functioning

well.

<<His diet includes a small amount

of eggs, a small amount of boiled chicken, a very very small amount

of beef just enough to get him to swallow the bone broth, avacado,

cucumber, spinach, pineapple, peaches, coconut milk, pumpkin, and

butternut squash, a very small amount of ginger and honey, and a

little bit of coconut oil used to cook the eggs.>>

All of these fruits and veggies are peeled and cooked? Even the cucumber? Is

the coconut milk homemade?

Can he not tolerate green beans or zucchini? Those are veggies that are

commonly well tolerated by newbies. I just think that other than butternut

squash, cucumber and spinich, you don't really have any vegetables in there. I

take it he can't tolerate carrots? The pumpkin is not canned, right? Did you

cook and freeze a bunch of it from last fall? I haven't seen a fresh pumpkin in

many months.

<<The supplements he

is taking are fish oil from green pasture, and magnesium citrate.

Do you see anything in the diet that might be the culprit?>>

How much mag citrate are you using and how old is he/ how much does he weigh?

The " fish oil " is cod liver oil?

Try to sign your posts with how old your child is and how long on SCD. It's just

impossible for me to remember everyone and look back through the archives to

find when someone first joined.... read all their past messages, etc.

Patti

Still Constipated

My son is STILL constipated. He never experienced constipation

before we started SCD and I'm starting to feel extremely

frustrated. He got better after we cut out/back on eggs and meat,

but only for a few days. The magnesium citrate has helped, but not

a lot. We have tried everything. Epsom salts, electrolyte drink,

prune, I even tried a castor oil pack which did work very well and

got quite a bit of junk out of there but I know that's not SCD

legal. We did an OAT test and had to pull, apples, pears, and grape

juice for that test and that seemed to help as well, so he's not

eating those anymore either. He is still going every day, but is

clearly constipated and bloated. His diet includes a small amount

of eggs, a small amount of boiled chicken, a very very small amount

of beef just enough to get him to swallow the bone broth, avacado,

cucumber, spinach, pineapple, peaches, coconut milk, pumpkin, and

butternut squash, a very small amount of ginger and honey, and a

little bit of coconut oil used to cook the eggs. The supplements he

is taking are fish oil from green pasture, and magnesium citrate.

Do you see anything in the diet that might be the culprit?

Do you think that probiotics would help with this constipation? We

ordered those a month ago and they called and said it would be still

another month before they are ready. So I am ordering from Kirkman

instead.

This is so frustrating because before doing this diet, he didn't

have these problems. His DAN doctor said to just keep at it, but

even he was surprised that we are having so much constipation and

said that it really should be resolving by now.

Thank you,

March 29, 2007

IT IS NOW a normal size-actually it only took two weeks to get it

back to its normal size!

>

> <<Well, anyway, by using saccharomyces boullardii, probiotics,

> and DULCOLAX suppositories, it is not normal size.>>

>

> Did you mean to say that it is NOW normal size? Or that doing

these things did not help at all?

>

> Patti

>

March 29, 2007

I'm sorry. I'm 37 weeks pregnant and very forgetful. We have been

on this diet for only 1 month. That is why there are not a ton of

foods to choose from and since we don't seem to do so well with the

big intro foods - apples, pears, bananas, grape juice, and

especially carrots, it's really hard. I feel like there is hardly

anything he can eat. He does have a bit of zucchini but I have to

carefully hide it, I forgot that, and he was eating green beans, but

now he refuses them. Yes, peeled, cooked, homemade stuff. I

thought that having 3 solid veggies in there was pretty good at this

point. I guess not, but I don't know what else we can really add

right now. I think I might have to give up for now and maybe try

again after the baby comes. It's just so hard, so much work, hours

and hours and hours of cooking and it only seems to be making him

worse. The thought of having to start all over from the very first

is more than I can bear. Hopefully Kirkman will come through with

the probiotics since GIProHealth is unable to. Wish they would have

told me that a month ago so we could have ordered elsewhere. Maybe

that will do the trick, but as I search the archives, it seems like

this diet does not work as fabulously when constipation is the issue

as it does when Diarrhea is the issue. I truely hope I am wrong

about that.

Yes, cod liver oil. He is 24 pounds and taking 280 mgs of the Mag

Citrate.

Anyway, I appreciate the advice. I've been really worried about how

to do this and have a baby at the same time. Maybe that's not SCD

legal :-)

March 29, 2007

It doesn't have to be a lot of work....My son eats the eggless

chicken pancakes for breakfast. The chicken soup for lunch, and some

other meat for dinner with vegetables...

My son was A very picky eater before-he refused to eat anything but

bread pretty much. He wouldn't eat any meat, and NO vegetables. He

was so sensitive to texture he wouldnt even eat a banana because it

was slimy.

You could take care of this problem before the baby is born and you

probably wont have any more problems. It is important, though, that

other foods he is used to eating be out of his sight and away from

his reach. Once he realizes that what you put in front of him is all

he is going to get, I promise you-he will eat. It may feel like he

will starve if you don't give in and give him something else. But the

next time he refuses to eat what you put in front of him, and you

give him something else to eat, you are training him to do that. I

was too, until i realized I had to break the habit. I promise, if I

got my child to eat the things he does, then ANYONE can!

Try sitting him down at the table and give him a little bit of a food

he really enjoys. Offer him a bite of the food you are trying to get

him to eat. If he refuses-simply point at the food on the fork or the

spoon until he takes a bite. Do not get mad. Don't keep saying " eat

eat, " just keep pointing. Show him What he COULD have if he would

take a bite. If he takes a bite right away give him a bite of the

food he wants. After every three bites or so....gradually increase

the required amount of food you would like him to eat, and decrease

the amount of food he wants to eat. We did this with my son. A couple

of times we had to sit there for TWO HOURS to get him to eat one

bite. But this rule of thumb is very true: pick your battles wisely,

but when you do place a demand on your child, be prepared to follow

100% of the time and with 100% accuracy! My son knows who is the boss

and he simply eats his food with no trouble, and then he gets dessert

afterwards. It sounds harsh, but in the long run it will be better

for him. As long as you would eat the food you are offering him,

knowing that it doesn't taste bad, then don't feel bad about trying

this method on him. It will require that you muster up some patience,

though. Some of these kids are fighters.

We do the same thing to get him to take his vitamins. The vitamins

are truly bad tasting, though, so....I understand why he doesn't want

him.

>

> I'm sorry. I'm 37 weeks pregnant and very forgetful. We have been

> on this diet for only 1 month. That is why there are not a ton of

> foods to choose from and since we don't seem to do so well with the

> big intro foods - apples, pears, bananas, grape juice, and

> especially carrots, it's really hard. I feel like there is hardly

> anything he can eat. He does have a bit of zucchini but I have to

> carefully hide it, I forgot that, and he was eating green beans,

but

> now he refuses them. Yes, peeled, cooked, homemade stuff. I

> thought that having 3 solid veggies in there was pretty good at

this

> point. I guess not, but I don't know what else we can really add

> right now. I think I might have to give up for now and maybe try

> again after the baby comes. It's just so hard, so much work, hours

> and hours and hours of cooking and it only seems to be making him

> worse. The thought of having to start all over from the very first

> is more than I can bear. Hopefully Kirkman will come through with

> the probiotics since GIProHealth is unable to. Wish they would

have

> told me that a month ago so we could have ordered elsewhere. Maybe

> that will do the trick, but as I search the archives, it seems like

> this diet does not work as fabulously when constipation is the

issue

> as it does when Diarrhea is the issue. I truely hope I am wrong

> about that.

>

> Yes, cod liver oil. He is 24 pounds and taking 280 mgs of the Mag

> Citrate.

>

> Anyway, I appreciate the advice. I've been really worried about

how

> to do this and have a baby at the same time. Maybe that's not SCD

> legal :-)

>

March 29, 2007

Thank you! These are all great ideas. I have no reason not to try

Pecan flour and no reason not to try other kinds of squashes other

than just being new at this. But I will do those things and try

adding more bone broth to whatever I can.

Thanks again!

March 30, 2007

How much liquid is he drinking in the course of a day. My son started having

constepation issues in late Nobemver, and it took me two months to figure out

that he needed about 16 ounces more liquid per day than I had been giving him.

As long as I make sure I give that much, he is fine. If it is even 4 ounces

less, he has problems. He is a month shy of turning four years old, and he

weighs about 40lbs. I have to get at least 30 ounces of fluids in him eveery

day.

Meleah