Re: Green Mucos Filled Stools

[Guest guest]

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Flax SEED is not legal..... did you just mean flax OIL in the smoothie?

Since the TD-DMPS is " relatively new " , I suspect that is what has thrown things

off. Chelation treatments can cause yeast to go out of control, for one thing.

Are you not giving him any acidophilus? And no yogurt?

Patti

Green Mucos Filled Stools

Sorry to be so graphic, but my son, 2yo ASD, SCD for 187 days has

recently developed green, mucosy stools. They are sandy, and loose

and fluffy and are streaked with mucos. These stools did not phase me

six months ago, but to see them come back, and with mucos in them

(brand new) is frightful. Nothing new has been added to his diet for

the last two months:

am: smoothie: blueberrie, broccoli, pinneaple, avocado, raspberry,

apple cider, flax seed.

1-2 eggs

lunch: navy bean flour pancake with PB and honey, apple cider, one

pear with skin, cooked carrots

dinner: hamburger patty, chicken bites, pumpkin almond cookie. juice

of some sort.

His diet has not strayed muc from what you see here, except for the

addition of snacks like a bannana, almond muffin, and other scd

legals that are rotated in and out on a weekly basis.

supps: super nu, calcium, vit c, e zinc, flax oil, clo, dmg,

prescription products: td-dmps, dmsa, nystatin

He has been on a diet simmilar to this for the last 2 months with no

erruptions. The td-dmps is relatively new, last three weeks or so.

Do you have any reccommendations!

Thanks, sarah

[Guest guest]

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I see a couple of things here. First, you say he's been on SCD for about 6

months. Many have a 6 month die off period. Secondly, you don't mention of

some of these foods are given raw or cooked like blueberries, pineapple, and

raspberries. Third, I agree with Patty that it appears no form of probiotic is

being given whether it be yogurt or supplement. Those all being said, I think

that it would be wise to return to intro for a couple of days to see how that

helps things. He definitely needs probiotics in some form as well. Now about

the supps. Many people find that yeast is really stirred up by chelation. This

could be what is happening, and I find it odd that your doctor RXed DMSA and

DMPS both. Also, Nystatin is often used to try to control the yeast, but many

parents find that it only makes the issues worse by allowing heartier strains to

move in...kind of like overuse of antibiotics helping to creat superbugs. I'd

highly recommend that you try to keep the yeast under control with natural

antifungals like olive leaf extract and oil of oregano. These should be rotated

as well in order to prevent superbugs. Rotating monthly should be sufficient.

You may have a battle on your hands by pulling out the Nystatin, returning to

intro, and then slowly reintroducing the easier foods again, but you need to

consider trying it to see if it solves the problem.

Meleah

Green Mucos Filled Stools

Sorry to be so graphic, but my son, 2yo ASD, SCD for 187 days has

recently developed green, mucosy stools. They are sandy, and loose

and fluffy and are streaked with mucos. These stools did not phase me

six months ago, but to see them come back, and with mucos in them

(brand new) is frightful. Nothing new has been added to his diet for

the last two months:

am: smoothie: blueberrie, broccoli, pinneaple, avocado, raspberry,

apple cider, flax seed.

1-2 eggs

lunch: navy bean flour pancake with PB and honey, apple cider, one

pear with skin, cooked carrots

dinner: hamburger patty, chicken bites, pumpkin almond cookie. juice

of some sort.

His diet has not strayed muc from what you see here, except for the

addition of snacks like a bannana, almond muffin, and other scd

legals that are rotated in and out on a weekly basis.

supps: super nu, calcium, vit c, e zinc, flax oil, clo, dmg,

prescription products: td-dmps, dmsa, nystatin

He has been on a diet simmilar to this for the last 2 months with no

erruptions. The td-dmps is relatively new, last three weeks or so.

Do you have any reccommendations!

Thanks, sarah

[Guest guest]

Yes, flax oil is what we use.

The fruit frozen, not cooked, and blended in a smoothie. He is also on

scd legal probiotics (I left that out of the supp list).

I already removed the nystatin today, and we finished our round of TD-

DMPS and he is actualy looking and acting a lot better. Just waiting

for the stomach to catch up. We rotate between DMSA and TD-DMPS every

other round, does that seem strange to anyone? Please let me know why

if so.

Okay, so I need to start over is what your saying?!? Boy it's been so

long I don't even remember the intro diet.

Thanks everyone, despite this set back, SCD has been wonderful. I don't

even have the book right now because it is being loaned out to so many

other moms.

thank you,

sarah

[Guest guest]

I would just take a step back... return to all cooked fruits and veggies... not

necessarily do Intro, although you certainly could do that. Just two days at the

most.

You can cook fruit, then freeze it so it will work well to toss in the blender

to make a smoothie. Blueberries probably really should be strained to remove

seeds and skins.

You may want to begin some sort of natural antifungal now.

Patti

Re: Green Mucos Filled Stools

Yes, flax oil is what we use.

The fruit frozen, not cooked, and blended in a smoothie. He is also on

scd legal probiotics (I left that out of the supp list).

I already removed the nystatin today, and we finished our round of TD-

DMPS and he is actualy looking and acting a lot better. Just waiting

for the stomach to catch up. We rotate between DMSA and TD-DMPS every

other round, does that seem strange to anyone? Please let me know why

if so.

Okay, so I need to start over is what your saying?!? Boy it's been so

long I don't even remember the intro diet.

Thanks everyone, despite this set back, SCD has been wonderful. I don't

even have the book right now because it is being loaned out to so many

other moms.

thank you,

sarah

[Guest guest]

Are blueberries hard to digest, what is the reasoning behind removing

seeds and skins? Should I remove the skins of all his fruit again? And

if so, should I take out the broccoli too, or just cook it.

thanks soooo much,

sarah

[Guest guest]

Seeds and skins are more difficult to digest just as raw foods are. As Patty

said, it would be a good idea to take a step back now...back to all pealed,

seeded, and cooked fruits and veggies. Personally, I would do a two day intro

just to get a little extra " clearing out " , but it isn't necessary. You

definitely need to get started on a natural antifungal now that you've stopped

the Nystatin. Try olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, and freshly juiced

carrots with freshly pressed garlic in it. They're all pretty spicy flavored,

but work well. Remember to rotate them to prevent the yeast from gaining a

tolerance to them.

Meleah

Re: Green Mucos Filled Stools

Are blueberries hard to digest, what is the reasoning behind removing

seeds and skins? Should I remove the skins of all his fruit again? And

if so, should I take out the broccoli too, or just cook it.

thanks soooo much,

sarah

[Guest guest]

As everyone starts SCD, we always advise to begin with fruits and veggies peeled

and cooked. This is to make all foods as easy to digest as possible. The skins

and seeds from various fruits and veggies are more fibrous and difficult to

digest. Broccoli, being a cabbage family veggie, is considered more advanced. So

any time someone on SCD has any kind of setback, for whatever reason, it makes

sense to move back to all " EASY TO DIGEST " foods for a little while, until

things improve. There are always ups and downs to this healing process. When

doing something like chelation, you have to expect that to upset the gut a

bit... and the symptoms are your cue to move back to simpler fare.

Patti

Re: Green Mucos Filled Stools

Are blueberries hard to digest, what is the reasoning behind removing

seeds and skins? Should I remove the skins of all his fruit again? And

if so, should I take out the broccoli too, or just cook it.

thanks soooo much,

sarah