Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Mark, You should go ahead an move on past intro now... you will still get die-off, don't worry. But, unless he has severe diarrhea that isn't under control yet, 3 days is long enough. Be sure to start with all peeled and cooked veggies and fruits (ripe bananas do not have to be cooked) and just go slow and easy. If you feel the need to, you can always return and do a day or so of intro to get a little jump start to the next level of healing. Patti Extreme Die-Off? We started our 3.5 year old autistic son on the SCD diet about 3 weeks ago. We noticed that we didn't follow the intro diet as well as we thought. So, 3 days ago, we went back to the intro diet and followed it exactly. He is 100% SCD legal now. Today, 3rd day, he is extremely sensitive, out of it, not eating very much, tired and crying off and on at the drop of a hat. This is the worst we have ever seen him! We experienced this before with some anit-fungal medicine, but not like this. We have been giving him some activated charcoal and Epson salt baths. You all know by now that it is probably extreme die-off. Has anyone experienced such an extreme reaction before and if so what was your experience with how long it lasted. I know it is not good to stay on the intro diet more than 5 days, but I don't want to interfere with the die-off by re-introducing anything too soon. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 If he isn't having diharea, then go ahead and introduce a new food. Pick something nice and easy for him to digest like a ripe bannana, applesauce(homemade, of course), pealed and cooked zucchini, ect. I'd stick with two new foods per week(just my personal opinion and experience). It won't cause him to stop having die off completely as long as you make sure that you follow SCD carefully(all fruits and veggies pealed, seeded, and cooked). You may also see die off coming and going over the next couple of months. You can always go back to intro for a day or two during that time. A lot of people also have a die off around the three and six month marks. Meleah Extreme Die-Off? We started our 3.5 year old autistic son on the SCD diet about 3 weeks ago. We noticed that we didn't follow the intro diet as well as we thought. So, 3 days ago, we went back to the intro diet and followed it exactly. He is 100% SCD legal now. Today, 3rd day, he is extremely sensitive, out of it, not eating very much, tired and crying off and on at the drop of a hat. This is the worst we have ever seen him! We experienced this before with some anit-fungal medicine, but not like this. We have been giving him some activated charcoal and Epson salt baths. You all know by now that it is probably extreme die-off. Has anyone experienced such an extreme reaction before and if so what was your experience with how long it lasted. I know it is not good to stay on the intro diet more than 5 days, but I don't want to interfere with the die-off by re-introducing anything too soon. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Well, that is one thing I forgot to mention. He hasn't had a BM since Saturday. > > If he isn't having diharea, then go ahead and introduce a new food. Pick something nice and easy for him to digest like a ripe bannana, applesauce(homemade, of course), pealed and cooked zucchini, ect. I'd stick with two new foods per week(just my personal opinion and experience). It won't cause him to stop having die off completely as long as you make sure that you follow SCD carefully(all fruits and veggies pealed, seeded, and cooked). You may also see die off coming and going over the next couple of months. You can always go back to intro for a day or two during that time. A lot of people also have a die off around the three and six month marks. > Meleah > > ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Definitely time to move on from intro then. He needs to get some more fiber. Use the constipation protocol from Elaine's website, if need be: www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info in the Knowledge Base under " C " . Some people report that the Electrolyte Drink is also helpful against constipation. Also in the Knowledge Base.... under " E " . Patti Re: Extreme Die-Off? Well, that is one thing I forgot to mention. He hasn't had a BM since Saturday. Recent Activity a.. 25New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Oh, you'll want to remedy that. Many find that the electrolite drink in the recipe section of pecanbread.com gets things moving. If that doesn't work, do a search on constepation at the BTVC site for Elain'es protocall. I find this helpful with my nonSCD child who tends to hold a BM in for several days. Meleah Re: Extreme Die-Off? Well, that is one thing I forgot to mention. He hasn't had a BM since Saturday. > > If he isn't having diharea, then go ahead and introduce a new food. Pick something nice and easy for him to digest like a ripe bannana, applesauce(homemade, of course), pealed and cooked zucchini, ect. I'd stick with two new foods per week(just my personal opinion and experience). It won't cause him to stop having die off completely as long as you make sure that you follow SCD carefully(all fruits and veggies pealed, seeded, and cooked). You may also see die off coming and going over the next couple of months. You can always go back to intro for a day or two during that time. A lot of people also have a die off around the three and six month marks. > Meleah > > ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thanks for the advice everybody! One more question. Cooked carrots are part of the diet. But, we found a recipe where you shed the outer layer of the carrot and then you thinly slice the carrots with a potato peeler and then make carrot curls using olive oil in a pan. Is this acceptable. I ask because he loves them. > > Oh, you'll want to remedy that. Many find that the electrolite drink in the recipe section of pecanbread.com gets things moving. If that doesn't work, do a search on constepation at the BTVC site for Elain'es protocall. I find this helpful with my nonSCD child who tends to hold a BM in for several days. > Meleah > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Yes. They are legal. My dd loves them. But, it depends on what stage you are on in the diet. Jenn L Re: Extreme Die-Off? Thanks for the advice everybody! One more question. Cooked carrots are part of the diet. But, we found a recipe where you shed the outer layer of the carrot and then you thinly slice the carrots with a potato peeler and then make carrot curls using olive oil in a pan. Is this acceptable. I ask because he loves them. > > Oh, you'll want to remedy that. Many find that the electrolite drink in the recipe section of pecanbread.com gets things moving. If that doesn't work, do a search on constepation at the BTVC site for Elain'es protocall. I find this helpful with my nonSCD child who tends to hold a BM in for several days. > Meleah > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Nevermind, My wife told me she got it off pecanbread.com. I guess I should listen up a little. > > Thanks for the advice everybody! One more question. Cooked carrots > are part of the diet. But, we found a recipe where you shed the > outer layer of the carrot and then you thinly slice the carrots with > a potato peeler and then make carrot curls using olive oil in a pan. > Is this acceptable. I ask because he loves them. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 > > One more question. Cooked carrots > are part of the diet. But, we found a recipe where you shed the > outer layer of the carrot and then you thinly slice the carrots with > a potato peeler and then make carrot curls using olive oil in a pan. > Is this acceptable. I ask because he loves them. > That recipe and a photo are actually on our own website: http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes.html Carol F. SCD 7 years, celaic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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