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There is a Cranial Tech office in NJ:

 

115 W. Century Road, Suite 160Paramus, NJ 07652Phone: 201-265-3993Toll Free: 866-265-7730 Fax: 201-265-8142Clinic Hours:Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

 

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On 9 March 2010 14:08, <ecmarmara@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today.  Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial specialist to evaluate her head.  She definitely has a flat spot on the right side and her ears are a little uneven.  I don't think she has any trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is perfectly happy that way.  The doctor gave us a prescription to take her to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband.  Now I am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist first, or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I called my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of network, but could not give me any names of places that we

 re in network.  And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience. Thanks!

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Hi ,Im in Philly and am having my daughter treated in Blue Bell PA by Kimura, from MedEast Post Op and Surgical - she has 11 years of experience. She was referred to me by someone on the group and a former client of hers that went to NOPCO at CHOP but had a bad experience. My daughter is starting on the star band next wednesday. She had her scan this saturday. From the one visit ive had with her she was able to see the asymmetry and brachiocephaly from first glance. They are in network if you have blue cross blue shield so there shouldnt be a problem. Cranial tech was too far for me to go, but i have also heard good things about them. Not sure where in NJ you are so wanted to let you know about MedEast if you were nearby. Our physician was Dr Bartlett, he's a craniofacial surgeon at CHOP who was able to give me a letter for the referral, Dr Whittaker is also at CHOP, both are experts in plagiocephaly - i would go to a craniofacial surgeon if you cant find a good neurosurgeon to check your daughter. The NS at HUP are notoriously rude, so wouldnt recommend going there. Good luckOn Mar 9, 2010, at 5:08 PM, wrote:Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today. Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial specialist to evaluate her head. She definitely has a flat spot on the right side and her ears are a little uneven. I don't think she has any trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is perfectly happy that way. The doctor gave us a prescription to take her to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband. Now I am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist first, or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I called my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of network, but could not give me any names of place s that were in network. And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience. Thanks!

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Our ped refered us to a specilist after I specifically asked for it

and we waited for 2 months for that appointment. They said they don't

want to see her when she is too young (she was 4.5 months) and all he

did was to refer us to the ortho from Hanger present in the room with

him... No x-rays no MRI or anything... We could have gone to Hanger

way before and not wasted our time. This is just our experience,

though.

We started Hanger helmet 2 weeks ago and my daughter is 7.5 months old now.

Good luck...

Sevin

Mom to Eda 7.5 months old, Hanger helmet since 2/25

On 3/9/10, christineashok <christineashok@...> wrote:

> generally the band providers are not doctors. The doc writes the

> prescription, then may periodically check on progress. The band providers

> are orthotists at most places (star and hanger plus others). The staff at

> Cranial tech are generally either nurses or physical therapists, who have

> been trained by CT. Check the reputation of the starband office you were

> referred to. We went to a very good starband ortho in the San Francisco Bay

> area and had good results. In general I don't think the band providers are

> interested in " selling " . You could ask your ped to a referal to a cranio

> facial plastic surgeon or a neurosurgeon if you want a specialists opinion.

> Our ped referred us to a cranial facial plastic surgeon since she wasn't

> familiar with banding.

> -christine

> sydney, 4 yrs, stareband grad

>

>

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>> Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today.

>> Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's

>> appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial

>> specialist to evaluate her head. She definitely has a flat spot on the

>> right side and her ears are a little uneven. I don't think she has any

>> trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been

>> making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is

>> perfectly happy that way. The doctor gave us a prescription to take her

>> to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it

>> is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband. Now I

>> am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist first,

>> or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I called

>> my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of

>> network, but could not give me any names of places that were in network.

>> And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic

>> picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling

>> their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would

>> appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience.

>> Thanks!

>>

>

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Hi everyone, thanks for all your advice. I have been doing some more research

and it seems? like our insurance should pay for some of this at least, and since

none of the in network places are within 50 miles of us, we are hopefully going

to get an out of network authorization. I would love to have the money to take

her anywhere and not worry about insurance but unfortunately money is extremely

tight for us right now. If others have had success with the Starband I may try

that because the Paramus Cranial Tech would be at least an hour away and my

daughter and older son are only 15 months apart, so our lives are extremely

hectic right now and it would be much much easier if I could go somewhere

closer. We are in Northern NJ, so Philadelphia and other PA places would be

very far for us.

Sevin, that was my concern about going to a specialist - that it would take

forever for an appointment and that they would just send me to the place my

pediatrician referred us to initially. I would like to get going on this right

away while she is still young.

So, I think my plan is to see if insurance will pay for her evaluation at

Starband, and if not I will take her to Cranial Tech for the free evaluation. I

would like to see what they say because after all my pediatrician only said she

thinks it might be good to have her evaluated and I know nothing about this, so

I don't even know if her case is severe enough to require a band.

After the evaluation we will take it from there. From what I saw online, it

looks like in NJ the insurance companies require that you try 2 months of

repositioning therapy before any other treatment if the child is under 6 months

old. So maybe that is what we'll be doing for awhile. Does anyone know if

repositioning ever works enough to eliminate the problem?

Anyway, if you read this far I appreciate it, I know I have been rambling on and

on. I find all of this to be very overwhelming and a little confusing. Thanks

for the advice!

> >>

> >> Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today.

> >> Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's

> >> appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial

> >> specialist to evaluate her head. She definitely has a flat spot on the

> >> right side and her ears are a little uneven. I don't think she has any

> >> trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been

> >> making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is

> >> perfectly happy that way. The doctor gave us a prescription to take her

> >> to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it

> >> is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband. Now I

> >> am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist first,

> >> or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I called

> >> my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of

> >> network, but could not give me any names of places that were in network.

> >> And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic

> >> picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling

> >> their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would

> >> appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience.

> >> Thanks!

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

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On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:00 AM, wrote:

> If others have had success with the Starband I may try that because

> the Paramus Cranial Tech would be at least an hour away and my

> daughter and older son are only 15 months apart, so our lives are

> extremely hectic right now and it would be much much easier if I

> could go somewhere closer.

I'd look at it this way: Cranial Tech costs more, but it's worth

more. If insurance pays a percentage, you're getting more return on

your investment. Drive at nap time.

I have had major frustration with STARband: too big initially,

orthotist incompetence (may not necessarily apply to you, but

generally more likely under Ortomerica's business model), irregular

adjustment intervals -- all adding up to a fundamental problem, that

the helmet hasn't held my daughter's head in a good position to

receive growth for probably more than two weeks at a time.

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Thad Launderville

Montpelier, VT

Clara age 23 months, in STARband 6 1/2 months

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Repositioning didn't work at all for us and we started trying when our baby was 7 weeks old. Also we did a scan every month from 3 to 6 mo of age and though her head grew, it didn't round out or correct as much as a single mm. From this and other feedback, I think once the shape is set at six weeks or so, it would never correct without a helmet. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 10, 2010, at 6:00 AM, "" <ecmarmara@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, thanks for all your advice. I have been doing some more research and it seems? like our insurance should pay for some of this at least, and since none of the in network places are within 50 miles of us, we are hopefully going to get an out of network authorization. I would love to have the money to take her anywhere and not worry about insurance but unfortunately money is extremely tight for us right now. If others have had success with the Starband I may try that because the Paramus Cranial Tech would be at least an hour away and my daughter and older son are only 15 months apart, so our lives are extremely hectic right now and it would be much much easier if I could go somewhere closer. We are in Northern NJ, so Philadelphia and other PA places would be very far for us.

Sevin, that was my concern about going to a specialist - that it would take forever for an appointment and that they would just send me to the place my pediatrician referred us to initially. I would like to get going on this right away while she is still young.

So, I think my plan is to see if insurance will pay for her evaluation at Starband, and if not I will take her to Cranial Tech for the free evaluation. I would like to see what they say because after all my pediatrician only said she thinks it might be good to have her evaluated and I know nothing about this, so I don't even know if her case is severe enough to require a band.

After the evaluation we will take it from there. From what I saw online, it looks like in NJ the insurance companies require that you try 2 months of repositioning therapy before any other treatment if the child is under 6 months old. So maybe that is what we'll be doing for awhile. Does anyone know if repositioning ever works enough to eliminate the problem?

Anyway, if you read this far I appreciate it, I know I have been rambling on and on. I find all of this to be very overwhelming and a little confusing. Thanks for the advice!

> >>

> >> Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today.

> >> Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's

> >> appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial

> >> specialist to evaluate her head. She definitely has a flat spot on the

> >> right side and her ears are a little uneven. I don't think she has any

> >> trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been

> >> making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is

> >> perfectly happy that way. The doctor gave us a prescription to take her

> >> to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it

> >> is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband. Now I

> >> am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist first,

> >> or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I called

> >> my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of

> >> network, but could not give me any names of places that were in network.

> >> And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic

> >> picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling

> >> their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would

> >> appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience.

> >> Thanks!

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

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Lots of people on this forum have had great success with STARbands through

excellent orthotists. With STARband and Hanger it seems the key is to find a

really good orthotist. Ask how many bands they've done, how many babies they

see monthly, etc., to get a good feel for how much experience they have--not

just how many years experience they have as an orthotist, but specifically how

much experience they have treating babies with bands.

If you don't find a local STARband place you're really confident in, I would say

go to the CT if you can. At the very least, I'd go for an evaluation. Banding

babies is ALL they do there, so they really, really know their stuff. We travel

(either by car or plane) to the CT in Pasadena, California from Sacramento (400

miles) for adjustments every two weeks. I feel it's been 100% worth the time,

money and effort, so to me an hour's drive sounds like nothing! We've been

thrilled with CT and have seen great results. I've also got four kids ages 8

and under though, so I understand how hard it can be with multiple little ones.

Since your baby is younger you may need to go in weekly--that's something you'd

want to ask about and take into consideration when you consider the commute.

Going in often for appointments means that they give your baby's helmet just

enough room to grow into, but not too much to cause the helmet to rotate or fit

improperly. Leaving too much room generally means wasted time because the

helmet doesn't hold as well. Young babies are growing more quickly so they need

to go in more often.

Good luck! I think you'll find this group to be extremely helpful with any of

your questions (I know I have).

Mom to , 11 months old, DOCband since 12/29

> > >>

> > >> Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today.

> > >> Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's

> > >> appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial

> > >> specialist to evaluate her head. She definitely has a flat spot on the

> > >> right side and her ears are a little uneven. I don't think she has any

> > >> trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been

> > >> making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is

> > >> perfectly happy that way. The doctor gave us a prescription to take her

> > >> to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it

> > >> is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband. Now I

> > >> am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist

first,

> > >> or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I

called

> > >> my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of

> > >> network, but could not give me any names of places that were in network.

> > >> And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic

> > >> picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling

> > >> their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would

> > >> appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience.

> > >> Thanks!

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Hi ,

My name is leah and I live in South Brunswick Township. Where do you live in

New Jersey?

My daughter, who is six months old, will be getting her Doc Band from

Cranial Technologies in Paramus next Tuesday.

After a lot of research, I discovered that there is a mandate in New Jersey that

requires any company that offers a policy to NJ residents to cover orthotic and

prosthetic devices.

We had to make reference to a specific billing code S1040, when discussing this

with our Health care provider - United Health Care.

We also had to get a perscription and a letter of medical necessity from our

pediatrician.

They agreed to pay for the cost of the band and visits at our out-of-network

rate.

We also went to Nouveau Orthotics and Prosthetics in Hazlet for an initial

consultation (They use the Starband), but decided to go with the Doc Band.

Hope this information helps. Let me know if you have any further

question....maryleah

> > >>

> > >> Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today.

> > >> Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's

> > >> appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial

> > >> specialist to evaluate her head. She definitely has a flat spot on the

> > >> right side and her ears are a little uneven. I don't think she has any

> > >> trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been

> > >> making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is

> > >> perfectly happy that way. The doctor gave us a prescription to take her

> > >> to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it

> > >> is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband. Now I

> > >> am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist

first,

> > >> or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I

called

> > >> my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of

> > >> network, but could not give me any names of places that were in network.

> > >> And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic

> > >> picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling

> > >> their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would

> > >> appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience.

> > >> Thanks!

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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if your daughter is 4 months old, she is still at a good young age to get some

progress with repositioning. I started repositioning my daughter at the age of

3 and a half months with the intention of having her seen by a specialist at

about 6 months. And by 6 months of age she had mad such progress that I

cancelled her appt with the specialist and decided to keep repo'ing. (Her

progress pics are in the photos section under Before and

After/Repositioning/ S. They might be out of order, but I dated them so

you can see the progress). Repo is a demanding job and you have to pay

attention to it 24/7, but it's so rewarding. And even if you decide that it's

not a job you want to take on long-term, you might as well give it a good shot

while you are waiting for her appt with the specialist. There is a lot of

information on repositioning in our files section and I am happy to help if you

have any questions.

Becky, repositioning moderator

, repo grad

> > >>

> > >> Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today.

> > >> Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's

> > >> appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial

> > >> specialist to evaluate her head. She definitely has a flat spot on the

> > >> right side and her ears are a little uneven. I don't think she has any

> > >> trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been

> > >> making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is

> > >> perfectly happy that way. The doctor gave us a prescription to take her

> > >> to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it

> > >> is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband. Now I

> > >> am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist

first,

> > >> or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I

called

> > >> my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of

> > >> network, but could not give me any names of places that were in network.

> > >> And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic

> > >> picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling

> > >> their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would

> > >> appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience.

> > >> Thanks!

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Yes - we are among the ones that benefited greatly from the STARband. In our case, similar to CT, helmets is all that our organization does. Our ortho was wonderful and even had her own baby in a STARband at one point (don't know how long ago).

We traveled 45 minutes to get the STARband, but I had the choice to travel 1.5 hours for a Doc band, but there were several reasons that we chose the place we did (I won't go into them now). Other factors to consider besides travel time are the cost of the band, whether insurance covers one company and not the other, experience of the ortho, and your generally mommy instinct.

One benefit of getting your eval done at STARBand locations is that you'll get accurate measurements because they are done with a computerized scan. I've seen firsthand that the hand measurements can be very different from the computerized ones and I don't trust them (CT does hand measurements). CT measured my daughter at 86 percent only 2 months after she graduated from her band at 92.2 percent. Since then, all hand measurements from two other sources have been higher than this and have ranged from 88 percent to 91.3 percent. Who knows which one to trust? Probably none of them.

The benefit of doing an eval at CT is that they will do a free evaluation and a photo study (which was cool). They assessment of the head is a little more holistic and subjective because they go partly on how they think it looks rather than just the measurements. Still, I prefer the computerized scan to help me decide the true severity of the head (but I'm a numbers and measurement person - not everyone feels this way). Unfortunately, some STARband locations charge for their evals since they are all independent companies that contract with the STARband company to make bands for them.

In case you are curious, you can see pictures of my daughter at this link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11835424@N06/

If you go back far enough, I even have her before and after pictures on there.

Good luck with your decision and the process.

, mom to , 2.5 years

STARband grad May 2009

Chiro and CST

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Lots of people on this forum have had great success with STARbands through excellent orthotists. With STARband and Hanger it seems the key is to find a really good orthotist. Ask how many bands they've done, how many babies they see monthly, etc., to get a good feel for how much experience they have--not just how many years experience they have as an orthotist, but specifically how much experience they have treating babies with bands.If you don't find a local STARband place you're really confident in, I would say go to the CT if you can. At the very least, I'd go for an evaluation. Banding babies is ALL they do there, so they really, really know their stuff. We travel (either by car or plane) to the CT in Pasadena, California from Sacramento (400 miles) for adjustments every two weeks. I feel it's been 100% worth the time, money and effort, so to me an hour's drive sounds like nothing! We've been thrilled with CT and have seen great results. I've also got four kids ages 8 and under though, so I understand how hard it can be with multiple little ones. Since your baby is younger you may need to go in weekly--that's something you'd want to ask about and take into consideration when you consider the commute. Going in often for appointments means that they give your baby's helmet just enough room to grow into, but not too much to cause the helmet to rotate or fit improperly. Leaving too much room generally means wasted time because the helmet doesn't hold as well. Young babies are growing more quickly so they need to go in more often. Good luck! I think you'll find this group to be extremely helpful with any of your questions (I know I have).Mom to , 11 months old, DOCband since 12/29> > >>> > >> Hi everyone, I'm from NJ, and I just discovered this group today.> > >> Last week my daughter Katelyn, who is 4 months old, had a dr's> > >> appointment, and our pediatrician recommended we take her to a cranial> > >> specialist to evaluate her head. She definitely has a flat spot on the> > >> right side and her ears are a little uneven. I don't think she has any> > >> trouble with her neck muscles because for the last few days I have been> > >> making sure I turn her head to the left instead of the right and she is> > >> perfectly happy that way. The doctor gave us a prescription to take her> > >> to a Cranial Remolding Center nearby, but it is not a doctor's office, it> > >> is a center where they do a STARscan and I assume get a STARband. Now I> > >> am wondering if I should ask the doctor to send us to a neurologist first,> > >> or try to see if there is a Cranial Tech center anywhere near us? I called> > >> my insurance company and they said the place we are going is out of> > >> network, but could not give me any names of places that were in network.> > >> And I am not sure if the place we are going will give us a realistic> > >> picture of what we should do, or if they are just interested in selling> > >> their product and will tell everybody their baby needs it. I would> > >> appreciate some advice from anyone who had had a similar experience.> > >> Thanks!> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > -- > > Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com> >>

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