Re: general advice....yeasty with addition from intro diet and first fruit

[Guest guest]

Patti

Good advice! I began introducing a fruit (banana) after several days

on the intro diet. My son has been doing a bit of smiling at

nothing, acting spacy, and closing his eyes again. He did not do

those things when he was on the intro diet (though he did scream and

whine and raise hell!) and now the " yeasty " like symptoms are

returning. My son is on an anti fungal (Nizerol) as well as valtrex

and zoloft (SSRI, low dose). We did two days of bananas (about 1/4

of an actual banana so not much per day) and today we began

zuchini/squash/green which I peeled, desseded as much as I could and

baked in the oven on parchment paper. I added salt, pepper, and

herbs de provence to the chicken on the Foremon grill and I

didn't have to fight my son to eat this or the zuchini this evening.

Hooray! Just wondering if perhaps the symptoms above are normal or

if this sounds familiar??

Kristie

Aidan 3.7

>

> This is something I posted a few months ago.... may apply to some

of you who are new, or just considering the diet at this point.

> *******************************

>

> You may not see the same overt symptoms of IBS, Crohn's or

colitis, etc... but, if you are trying this diet to heal a leaky

gut with a kid with autism or ADHD, etc... then there is still most

likely a situation where there is overgrowth of gut pathogens, or an

imbalance going on in the gut... or perforations in the lining of

the gut, due to those colonies of bad bacteria.

>

> Once you start SCD, the bad guys will die off ... and be shed from

the lining of the gut, leaving behind tender new tissue that needs

to be handled with care, until the gut flora is balanced again and

everything is functioning normally. This does not happen overnight.

>

> It may happen more quickly with one child than another... but

there is no way for us to predict this or to advise you on when to

start more advanced foods.

>

> Once he starts SCD, you may see die-off symptoms and changes in

his BMs that will surprise you. Just keep in mind that tender new

tissue in the lining of his gut... and that you want to be gentle

with it... babying it, pampering it... making everything as EASY TO

DIGEST as possible until you are SURE he is ready for something more

challenging.

>

> You may be anxious to move on... to get back to " normal food " , but

you can't push the river. If you're tempted to add things like raw

foods too soon, you may regret it. Be on the safe side... give it a

few months and then GO SLOWLY. Add one new food at a time, and

OBSERVE. Keep a journal.... watch for any behavioral changes, skin

changes, bowel changes.

>

> Slow and steady wins the race.... we just can't emphasize this

enough. This is not a " quickie cure " kind of thing. We've just seen

SO many parents adding things like raw, unpeeled fruits and veggies

WAY too soon... being understandably anxious to have easier options

and more variety... but many of these parents have regretted this

decision, and have had to backtrack. They have THOUGHT their child's

gut was ready for the more advanced foods, but discovered that it

really wasn't.

>

> The whole end-game point of this diet is TOTAL healing... and

being able to return to a somewhat " normal " diet (although many,

MANY of us will never return to feeding our kids processed, refined

grains and sugars). In other words, EVERYbody wants that... so we

all know how you feel. But, for long term healing... it might be

better to go slow and steady now... and not have to take two steps

back in a month or so.

>

> Patti

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kristie,

For some unknown reason, some kids just can't handle bannanas. The same is true

of the cooked carrots and honey. Everyone is different, so I think you ought to

pull the bannanas, and try something else. I'm glad to hear that he ate the

aucchini and chicken. Was your herb mixture for the chicken prepackaged that

way, or did you mix it yourself? Spice or herb combos are not legal unless you

mix them at home yourself because starches are put in the mix. I'd stick with

the zucchini as your new veggie for a couple of days, and then try a different

fruit like applesauce(homemade, of course), or steamed or baked apple slices.

Meleah

Re: general advice.... " yeasty " with addition from intro

diet and first fruit

Patti

Good advice! I began introducing a fruit (banana) after several days

on the intro diet. My son has been doing a bit of smiling at

nothing, acting spacy, and closing his eyes again. He did not do

those things when he was on the intro diet (though he did scream and

whine and raise hell!) and now the " yeasty " like symptoms are

returning. My son is on an anti fungal (Nizerol) as well as valtrex

and zoloft (SSRI, low dose). We did two days of bananas (about 1/4

of an actual banana so not much per day) and today we began

zuchini/squash/green which I peeled, desseded as much as I could and

baked in the oven on parchment paper. I added salt, pepper, and

herbs de provence to the chicken on the Foremon grill and I

didn't have to fight my son to eat this or the zuchini this evening.

Hooray! Just wondering if perhaps the symptoms above are normal or

if this sounds familiar??

Kristie

Aidan 3.7

>

> This is something I posted a few months ago.... may apply to some

of you who are new, or just considering the diet at this point.

> *******************************

>

> You may not see the same overt symptoms of IBS, Crohn's or

colitis, etc... but, if you are trying this diet to heal a leaky

gut with a kid with autism or ADHD, etc... then there is still most

likely a situation where there is overgrowth of gut pathogens, or an

imbalance going on in the gut... or perforations in the lining of

the gut, due to those colonies of bad bacteria.

>

> Once you start SCD, the bad guys will die off ... and be shed from

the lining of the gut, leaving behind tender new tissue that needs

to be handled with care, until the gut flora is balanced again and

everything is functioning normally. This does not happen overnight.

>

> It may happen more quickly with one child than another... but

there is no way for us to predict this or to advise you on when to

start more advanced foods.

>

> Once he starts SCD, you may see die-off symptoms and changes in

his BMs that will surprise you. Just keep in mind that tender new

tissue in the lining of his gut... and that you want to be gentle

with it... babying it, pampering it... making everything as EASY TO

DIGEST as possible until you are SURE he is ready for something more

challenging.

>

> You may be anxious to move on... to get back to " normal food " , but

you can't push the river. If you're tempted to add things like raw

foods too soon, you may regret it. Be on the safe side... give it a

few months and then GO SLOWLY. Add one new food at a time, and

OBSERVE. Keep a journal.... watch for any behavioral changes, skin

changes, bowel changes.

>

> Slow and steady wins the race.... we just can't emphasize this

enough. This is not a " quickie cure " kind of thing. We've just seen

SO many parents adding things like raw, unpeeled fruits and veggies

WAY too soon... being understandably anxious to have easier options

and more variety... but many of these parents have regretted this

decision, and have had to backtrack. They have THOUGHT their child's

gut was ready for the more advanced foods, but discovered that it

really wasn't.

>

> The whole end-game point of this diet is TOTAL healing... and

being able to return to a somewhat " normal " diet (although many,

MANY of us will never return to feeding our kids processed, refined

grains and sugars). In other words, EVERYbody wants that... so we

all know how you feel. But, for long term healing... it might be

better to go slow and steady now... and not have to take two steps

back in a month or so.

>

> Patti

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The stool was probably a lot of die off still.

Meleah

Re: general advice.... " yeasty " with addition from intro

diet and first fruit

Oh and I forgot to mention that since we introed banana he went from

like five stools a day and a really sore butt to no stool until

today after some mineral oil (strange smelling runny black tar

stool). Gross and descriptive I know..sorry.

Kristie

Aidan 3.7

> >

> > This is something I posted a few months ago.... may apply to

some

> of you who are new, or just considering the diet at this point.

> > *******************************

> >

> > You may not see the same overt symptoms of IBS, Crohn's or

> colitis, etc... but, if you are trying this diet to heal a leaky

> gut with a kid with autism or ADHD, etc... then there is still

most

> likely a situation where there is overgrowth of gut pathogens, or

an

> imbalance going on in the gut... or perforations in the lining of

> the gut, due to those colonies of bad bacteria.

> >

> > Once you start SCD, the bad guys will die off ... and be shed

from

> the lining of the gut, leaving behind tender new tissue that needs

> to be handled with care, until the gut flora is balanced again and

> everything is functioning normally. This does not happen

overnight.

> >

> > It may happen more quickly with one child than another... but

> there is no way for us to predict this or to advise you on when to

> start more advanced foods.

> >

> > Once he starts SCD, you may see die-off symptoms and changes in

> his BMs that will surprise you. Just keep in mind that tender new

> tissue in the lining of his gut... and that you want to be gentle

> with it... babying it, pampering it... making everything as EASY

TO

> DIGEST as possible until you are SURE he is ready for something

more

> challenging.

> >

> > You may be anxious to move on... to get back to " normal food " ,

but

> you can't push the river. If you're tempted to add things like raw

> foods too soon, you may regret it. Be on the safe side... give it

a

> few months and then GO SLOWLY. Add one new food at a time, and

> OBSERVE. Keep a journal.... watch for any behavioral changes, skin

> changes, bowel changes.

> >

> > Slow and steady wins the race.... we just can't emphasize this

> enough. This is not a " quickie cure " kind of thing. We've just

seen

> SO many parents adding things like raw, unpeeled fruits and

veggies

> WAY too soon... being understandably anxious to have easier

options

> and more variety... but many of these parents have regretted this

> decision, and have had to backtrack. They have THOUGHT their

child's

> gut was ready for the more advanced foods, but discovered that it

> really wasn't.

> >

> > The whole end-game point of this diet is TOTAL healing... and

> being able to return to a somewhat " normal " diet (although many,

> MANY of us will never return to feeding our kids processed,

refined

> grains and sugars). In other words, EVERYbody wants that... so we

> all know how you feel. But, for long term healing... it might be

> better to go slow and steady now... and not have to take two steps

> back in a month or so.

> >

> > Patti

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Meelah

The herbs de provence state they are organic with nothing added

except for the herb in it. It is made by Spice Hunters

http://www.spicehunter.com/organic_spices.cfm?DID=27

I took out banana today and just continued squash/zuccini. The black

tar running out of diaper stool continued and he had a movement

about four times today...ughhh.

He ate chicken pancakes, hamburger patty, baked zuccini (skin peeled

and deseeded). I will introduce a sauce tomorrow. Any advice

anyone???

Kristie

> >

> > This is something I posted a few months ago.... may apply to

some

> of you who are new, or just considering the diet at this point.

> > *******************************

> >

> > You may not see the same overt symptoms of IBS, Crohn's or

> colitis, etc... but, if you are trying this diet to heal a leaky

> gut with a kid with autism or ADHD, etc... then there is still

most

> likely a situation where there is overgrowth of gut pathogens,

or an

> imbalance going on in the gut... or perforations in the lining

of

> the gut, due to those colonies of bad bacteria.

> >

> > Once you start SCD, the bad guys will die off ... and be shed

from

> the lining of the gut, leaving behind tender new tissue that

needs

> to be handled with care, until the gut flora is balanced again

and

> everything is functioning normally. This does not happen

overnight.

> >

> > It may happen more quickly with one child than another... but

> there is no way for us to predict this or to advise you on when

to

> start more advanced foods.

> >

> > Once he starts SCD, you may see die-off symptoms and changes

in

> his BMs that will surprise you. Just keep in mind that tender

new

> tissue in the lining of his gut... and that you want to be

gentle

> with it... babying it, pampering it... making everything as EASY

TO

> DIGEST as possible until you are SURE he is ready for something

more

> challenging.

> >

> > You may be anxious to move on... to get back to " normal food " ,

but

> you can't push the river. If you're tempted to add things like

raw

> foods too soon, you may regret it. Be on the safe side... give

it a

> few months and then GO SLOWLY. Add one new food at a time, and

> OBSERVE. Keep a journal.... watch for any behavioral changes,

skin

> changes, bowel changes.

> >

> > Slow and steady wins the race.... we just can't emphasize this

> enough. This is not a " quickie cure " kind of thing. We've just

seen

> SO many parents adding things like raw, unpeeled fruits and

veggies

> WAY too soon... being understandably anxious to have easier

options

> and more variety... but many of these parents have regretted

this

> decision, and have had to backtrack. They have THOUGHT their

child's

> gut was ready for the more advanced foods, but discovered that

it

> really wasn't.

> >

> > The whole end-game point of this diet is TOTAL healing... and

> being able to return to a somewhat " normal " diet (although many,

> MANY of us will never return to feeding our kids processed,

refined

> grains and sugars). In other words, EVERYbody wants that... so

we

> all know how you feel. But, for long term healing... it might be

> better to go slow and steady now... and not have to take two

steps

> back in a month or so.

> >

> > Patti

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kristie,

Just about seven weeks ago...we added Knudsen Farm's juices to my

son's diet and we noticed the same things your noticing shutting his

eye's, noticing that my non-verbal child seemed to be having light

sensitivities...headaches and the yelling sporaticly started

up...which I have related to headaches and extreme insomnia....I

thought this must be an increased yeast issue and I started to feed

him five or so cloves of garlic chopped up in his ground veal with

his butternut squash...for about three or four days and we noticed

major cramping and crying all night long and then his first Bowel

Movement there was the nasty yeast...(my child isn't potty trained

just turned 3), so I am always looking to see if were having normal

stool or not...(really sounds gross, but the stool and the ecezma

and behavior tell it all)my son has had three die-offs in the last

four months, but then the nasty yeast can make it's way back into

our lives with feeding it...the yeast looks like plant roots and

when you have a die-off you will see massive amounts of these plant

roots which are the candida yeast/fungus these roots are what poke

holes in their intestine's and cause the leaky gut which cause's all

of the major autistic symptoms...Now, we noticed ours after doing a

challenge of DMSA and followed by juices for several weeks...Hope

this helps...Dana

>

> Oh and I forgot to mention that since we introed banana he went

from

> like five stools a day and a really sore butt to no stool until

> today after some mineral oil (strange smelling runny black tar

> stool). Gross and descriptive I know..sorry.

>

> Kristie

> Aidan 3.7

>

[Guest guest]

I know your child is not on SCD yet, but just wanted to make sure everyone is

clear that the only Knudsen juices that are SCD legal are in the " Just Juice "

line.

Patti

Re: general advice.... " yeasty " with addition from intro

diet and first fruit

Kristie,

Just about seven weeks ago...we added Knudsen Farm's juices to my

son's diet and we noticed the same things your noticing shutting his

eye's, noticing that my non-verbal child seemed to be having light

sensitivities...headaches and the yelling sporaticly started

...Dana

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