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Lori,

My three year old twins eat a lot of the orange veggies: Mostly acorn and

butternut squash. I do try to sneak in some green and other colors but they

really love the orange. And their skin has turned a little orange. I have been

told by their doctors and a host of other people that the orange coloring is

nothing to worry about as long as the whites of the eyes are white and not

yellow. Then you would have to worry about jaundice. One good thing about it,

my boys have NEVER had a sun burn in their lives and we do spend time out in the

sun without sunblock for the benefits of Vit D.

Ghee does not have any casein in it. I have used it with no problems with my

boys. You can find it in health food stores. These days, I just prefer to use

coconut oil.

Dana

and Garrett, 3 years old as of Mar 24

SCD 10 months

Celiac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia

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Can he have nut butter or nut flour; if so, you could add muffins. What about

bananas, avocado, and some type of vegetable oil as other sources of calories?

I know he can't have the grape juice, but what about freshly juiced vegetable

juices? Can he have eggs?

help! Need fats, calories, and have yellow feet

I need help. My 11 year old (asd)son has been on the SCD diet w/o dairy for 4

months. He is steadily losing weight, too much. He is 5'3'' and 106 lbs. Height

is going up, weight is going down. I went to a nutritionist for help today.

Basically, he needs more calories and more fat. I am not a great cook, but I am

cooking every day just about all day. Here is basically what he is eating now,

if anyone knows what maybe we can add to it to give him more calories and fat?

*Grilled hamburgers, chicken, turkey and steak

*steamed broccoli, carrots, sugar snap peas, snow peas, zuchini, green

peppers, cucumbers, and asparagas.

* cooked green beans, lima beans, peas and carrots

*applesauce or pearsauce mixed with cooked acorn squash with some cinnamon.

*Water and once in a while watered down white grape juice (the juice can make

him aggressive)

*last 2 weeks he has been having squash buttons

He is taking supplements: nu thera, probiotic, vit. C, gaba, zinc, melatonin,

& cod liver oil

He is dairy free, but the nutritionist suggested adding ghee. I have to admit

I haven't read any ghee posts during our 4 months, because I assumed it

contained casien and he couldn't have it. Is there anything special about the

ghee I should know before trying it? She also suggested basting his meat in

olive oil.

Another thing I figured out last week was that I hadn't given him any salt at

all since November! I am now lightly salting his meat!

Last thing - I noticed tonight that the soles of his feet are turning

yellow/orange?

I am a little freaked out. Help?

Thanks anyone!

Lori

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Lori,

For kids that need calories, I highly recommend avocado. You can mash it into

guacamole that he can dip cooked chilled veggies into.... use it as a topping

for burgers, or any way that you can think of to add it to foods he already

enjoys. I know some parents who've done avocado smoothies.... and young boys

are sometimes surprisingly open to drinking green drinks, it seems. One mom just

called them Incredible Hulk Milkshakes. :)

You do not need to cook avocado, as long as it is nicely ripe. But, it also

*can* be cooked... mixed into meatloaf mixtures, baked into muffins, etc.

I would suggest also incorporating coconut milk (homemade... instructions on

pecanbread.com) as a smoothie base. It is loaded with great, healthy fat

calories, and has the added advantage of having anti-fungal properties.

Starting with coconut milk, you can add avocado, bananas, cooked chunks of

mango, peach... cooked, strained berries for a punch of color, flavor and

anti-oxidants.

Olives are another great source of calories... look for " all natural " olives in

the health food store... canned with no illegals.

I think the addition of ghee is a great idea.... and as others have said, it is

free of casein, so usually not a problem for those CF kids.

I don't see eggs in his menu... is he sensitive/allergic? Eggs would be a

great source of calories and protein.

Patti

help! Need fats, calories, and have yellow feet

I need help. My 11 year old (asd)son has been on the SCD diet w/o dairy for 4

months. He is steadily losing weight, too much. He is 5'3'' and 106 lbs. Height

is going up, weight is going down. I went to a nutritionist for help today.

Basically, he needs more calories and more fat. I am not a great cook, but I am

cooking every day just about all day. Here is basically what he is eating now,

if anyone knows what maybe we can add to it to give him more calories and fat?

*Grilled hamburgers, chicken, turkey and steak

*steamed broccoli, carrots, sugar snap peas, snow peas, zuchini, green

peppers, cucumbers, and asparagas.

* cooked green beans, lima beans, peas and carrots

*applesauce or pearsauce mixed with cooked acorn squash with some cinnamon.

*Water and once in a while watered down white grape juice (the juice can make

him aggressive)

*last 2 weeks he has been having squash buttons

He is taking supplements: nu thera, probiotic, vit. C, gaba, zinc, melatonin,

& cod liver oil

He is dairy free, but the nutritionist suggested adding ghee. I have to admit

I haven't read any ghee posts during our 4 months, because I assumed it

contained casien and he couldn't have it. Is there anything special about the

ghee I should know before trying it? She also suggested basting his meat in

olive oil.

Another thing I figured out last week was that I hadn't given him any salt at

all since November! I am now lightly salting his meat!

Last thing - I noticed tonight that the soles of his feet are turning

yellow/orange?

I am a little freaked out. Help?

Thanks anyone!

Lori

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I didn't know you could substitute the nut butters straight across for the nut

flours. Does this make a difference in the digestion? Does it make a

difference in the recipe results? I will definately try it. I got him to take

a bite of the almond butter from a spoon yesterday and today. He grimmaces, but

I think he thinks it is medicine and just gulps down his " dose " .

Deke is pretty much non verbal. He says " meat yah " when he wants any food at

all. And " juice yah " for anything to drink. When he doesn't like something he

says " no " and pushes it toward your mouth instead! (didn't say he wasn't smart!)

Lori

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Lori,

I was going to mention nut butters, too.... after I re-read your post and didn't

see any nuts. They are a great source for fat and essential nutrients. I would

try some of the baked goods.... a basic muffin recipe maybe. You can substitute

nut butter straight across for whatever amount of nut flour is called for.

On the avocado.... did you mash it? Things to add might include salt, fresh

lemon juice, maybe a little oven-roasted garlic (makes it turn out really smooth

and creamy... easy to blend into other foods, and you get it's anti-fungal

properties as a nice bonus). Let me know if you need instructions on

oven-roasting garlic. I can't eat avocado plain myself.... have to at least add

salt.

You could also try adding it, and some egg, to meatloaf.... or one of the

meatball recipes on pecanbread.com.

Wow.... a kid who doesn't like bananas! He's a rare one. Well, I guess they're

not for everyone. :)

Patti

Re: help! Need fats, calories, and have yellow feet

You guys are so much help. Yes, he can have duck eggs, but he will only eat them

in things, not plain. I haven't tried vegetable juices - are they high in

calories? He has always hated bananas - but I keep trying. We tried a raw

avocado yesterday and he hated it, but again, maybe I could put it in something.

He has only been on the diet for 4 months, so I haven't introduced nut flours

yet. I have been thinking about the nut butters, but not sure what to put them

on? Maybe I should try in?

Thanks!

Lori

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Yes, the nut butters are somewhat easier to digest.... just because they are

ground finer/smoother. Try macadamia butter, if you can find it.... it's spendy

but macadamias are really high in fat and delicious.

Baking with nut butters or flours is tricky at first. They burn easily, so

sometimes you have to really watch them closely.... maybe lower your temp a

little and bake a bit longer. I protect the edges of the pan when I'm baking nut

butter brownies.... by putting strips of foil over the edges (extending out just

about and inch and a half) for the first half of the baking time.

Patti

Re: help! Need fats, calories, and have yellow feet

You guys are so much help. Yes, he can have duck eggs, but he will only eat

them in things, not plain. I haven't tried vegetable juices - are they high in

calories? He has always hated bananas - but I keep trying. We tried a raw

avocado yesterday and he hated it, but again, maybe I could put it in something.

He has only been on the diet for 4 months, so I haven't introduced nut flours

yet. I have been thinking about the nut butters, but not sure what to put them

on? Maybe I should try in?

Thanks!

Lori

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One trick we use is to cut a rectangle out of the center of the foil so it is

still in one piece - makes it easy to put on and off. We just set it aside for

the next baking. And we do the opposite - we put the foil on during the second

half - will have to try it on the first half to see if that is better.

On the pancakes, we learned if you turn the temperature way down and cook very,

very slowly they turn golden brown VS black - when they begin to bubble - just

like wheat ones - they are ready to flip over. We wasted several pancakes

learning this trick. ( We have a gas stove.) Dear hubby is the pancake champ in

our home. We cook several more than we will eat and freeze them - they turn out

great in the toaster pre-cooked this way.

Anyone have suggestions for fruit in the muffins ? - we get good results with

fresh blueberries but both times I've tried fresh raspberries they have turned

out mushy. I've tried whole and blended - blended was more mushy. At least

with the whole raspberries it was only mushy where there was a berry.

W. - Zachariah age 12, dyslexic/dysgraphic, SCD 1-07

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I would stick with plain pancakes.... and make a " syrup " out of the berries.

Especially for those who are fairly new to SCD, it would be better to strain the

seeds and skins out anyway..... so, you'd just cook the blueberries or

raspberries, then put them through a fine mesh sieve, maybe further reducing the

resulting sauce over a low flame.... and pour it or spoon it over your pancakes.

Patti

Re: help! Need fats, calories, and have yellow feet

One trick we use is to cut a rectangle out of the center of the foil so it is

still in one piece - makes it easy to put on and off. We just set it aside for

the next baking. And we do the opposite - we put the foil on during the second

half - will have to try it on the first half to see if that is better.

On the pancakes, we learned if you turn the temperature way down and cook

very, very slowly they turn golden brown VS black - when they begin to bubble -

just like wheat ones - they are ready to flip over. We wasted several pancakes

learning this trick. ( We have a gas stove.) Dear hubby is the pancake champ in

our home. We cook several more than we will eat and freeze them - they turn out

great in the toaster pre-cooked this way.

Anyone have suggestions for fruit in the muffins ? - we get good results with

fresh blueberries but both times I've tried fresh raspberries they have turned

out mushy. I've tried whole and blended - blended was more mushy. At least with

the whole raspberries it was only mushy where there was a berry.

W. - Zachariah age 12, dyslexic/dysgraphic, SCD 1-07

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