Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 In a message dated 1/20/2004 4:27:06 PM Central Standard Time, findacureforcf@... writes: , Pseudomonas will not affect anyone else that does not have CF. Pseudomonas only breeds in wet areas and kids with CF have sticky mucus that is wet and sticky so pseudomonas will breed in those areas any other kid that does not have CF does not have sticky mucus so the kids in school do not have any fears about get sick from you son having pseudomonas. If they do get pseudomonas in there throat they can cough it out but our kids can't because there mucus is sticky. So tell your school there is nothing to worry about unless the other kids you are worried about has CF. Oh and about the time it takes to do Tobi it usually takes 30 to 40 minutes for my girls to get through it and I have talked to our doctors about and he says the most important part of the treatment is about the first 20 minutes so when 30 minutes are up we are done if it is all gone or not. I hope this helps. Deb A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 , I don't know about the school issues, I do know that PA can be harmful to CF patients and also Cancer patients. On the Nebulizer question, are you using the Pari LC Plus Reusable? Is he using a mask? If you are and he is, take the valve off the top of the neb. It has a blue valve, if you are using a mask this part should be removed. It will cut the time down to about 7 or 8 minutes. Katy Mom to Austin 4 no CF & Piper 18 months w/CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 I only knwo this because we went for a week with the valve in and it taking 45 min+ before I finally asked someone : ) Katy Beverley Donelson wrote: GREAT SUGGESTION. I wish all knew this. Bless you . We'll just send folks to you for helpers :) hehe thanks -I mean that too!! LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEv Re: Thankyou to all and have some questions about Pseudomonas , I don't know about the school issues, I do know that PA can be harmful to CF patients and also Cancer patients. On the Nebulizer question, are you using the Pari LC Plus Reusable? Is he using a mask? If you are and he is, take the valve off the top of the neb. It has a blue valve, if you are using a mask this part should be removed. It will cut the time down to about 7 or 8 minutes. Katy Mom to Austin 4 no CF & Piper 18 months w/CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 GREAT SUGGESTION. I wish all knew this. Bless you . We'll just send folks to you for helpers :) hehe thanks -I mean that too!! LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEv Re: Thankyou to all and have some questions about Pseudomonas , I don't know about the school issues, I do know that PA can be harmful to CF patients and also Cancer patients. On the Nebulizer question, are you using the Pari LC Plus Reusable? Is he using a mask? If you are and he is, take the valve off the top of the neb. It has a blue valve, if you are using a mask this part should be removed. It will cut the time down to about 7 or 8 minutes. Katy Mom to Austin 4 no CF & Piper 18 months w/CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 50 min is a long time for Tobi. it takes about 15 min for 's dose (she takes a 1/2 vial) so a standard dose shouldn't take more than 30 min or so. Have you discussed getting his levels checked? I won't get on the soapbox but PLEASE keep an eye on this as he could get very sick from too much. (don't take " it doesn't go into the bloodstream " as an answer.......how else do we get oxygen in our bloodstream?) As far as contagious goes I wouldn't worry too much unless another kid has CF or something else that makes the mucus thick to trap the pseudomonas in the lungs. I would think that other people will just fight it off. Mom of 5 with CF and one on the way Thankyou to all and have some questions about Pseudomonas I want to take a moment to thank all of you for responding to my post about the dreadful bacteria pseudomonas, I am still upset, but in a more positive way. is doing really well with the Cipro and the Tobi, so here is hoping and praying that the throat swab comes back clean at our next clinic visit. I have a few questions about the pseudomonas, first question is... How long should it take the tobi to complete in the nebulizer? Right now it is taking over 50 minutes to do, let me tell you that is a long time for a five year old. Next question.... goes to a school that has a lot of children that have medical issues, Some have lung problems and some have compromised immune systems. I told his school that should not come into contact with these children in fear that they may be susceptible to the bacteria, OK, Is contagious? Is he contagious while on the tobi and cipro? I know it won't affect healthy people but what about the ones I listed, I Don't want to go overboard but I feel that these precautions wouldn't hurt. What do you all think, Am I making too big of a deal about it? His doctors have said he could go back to school, but that's all I know, Are there any safeguards that need to be in place while at school? I had a meeting with the school nurse and the principal explaining my concerns, but none of us are really sure on what to do. They are going to make sure that and the other children are kept seperate, not that is going to be a big deal, but we don't want to take any chances. I called and left a message at our CF clinic, but I am eager to hear what you all have to say. Once again. Thankyou, , mommy of 5 years old w/cf/adhd and 2 years old no CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 In a message dated 1/20/2004 7:59:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, baileyk80@... writes: > Pari LC Plus Reusable? Is he using a mask? If you are and he is, take the > valve off the top of the neb. It has a blue valve, if you are using a mask > this part should be removed. It will cut the time down to about 7 or 8 > minutes. > Yes...done that...I phrased it wrong - I meant air compressor unit......... Rosemary in NY with 3 children (13, 11 and 7) with CF. I have a dog named TOBI and have coined the phrase " BREATHE DAMMIT " my new favorite quote is Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out. Anton Chekhov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 It takes a 20 min for tobi and about 10 min for pulmozyme, we do have a Pari, but somebody wrote " 8 mins " , I like that, :-) About other kids getting sick from your kid, I have often wonder that. This Christmas we went to a party and there was a child that has cancer, she had a mask on, so I kept a far from this child. > 50 min is a long time for Tobi. it takes about 15 min for 's dose (she takes a 1/2 vial) so a standard dose shouldn't take more than 30 min or so. Have you discussed getting his levels checked? I won't get on the soapbox but PLEASE keep an eye on this as he could get very sick from too much. (don't take " it doesn't go into the bloodstream " as an answer.......how else do we get oxygen in our bloodstream?) > As far as contagious goes I wouldn't worry too much unless another kid has CF or something else that makes the mucus thick to trap the pseudomonas in the lungs. I would think that other people will just fight it off. > > Mom of 5 with CF and one on the way > Thankyou to all and have some questions about Pseudomonas > > > I want to take a moment to thank all of you for responding to my post about > the dreadful bacteria pseudomonas, I am still upset, but in a more positive > way. is doing really well with the Cipro and the Tobi, so here is hoping > and praying that the throat swab comes back clean at our next clinic visit. I > have a few questions about the pseudomonas, first question is... How long > should it take the tobi to complete in the nebulizer? Right now it is taking over > 50 minutes to do, let me tell you that is a long time for a five year old. > Next question.... goes to a school that has a lot of children that have > medical issues, Some have lung problems and some have compromised immune > systems. I told his school that should not come into contact with these > children in fear that they may be susceptible to the bacteria, OK, Is > contagious? Is he contagious while on the tobi and cipro? I know it won't affect > healthy people but what about the ones I listed, I Don't want to go overboard > but I feel that these precautions wouldn't hurt. What do you all think, Am I > making too big of a deal about it? His doctors have said he could go back to > school, but that's all I know, Are there any safeguards that need to be in place > while at school? I had a meeting with the school nurse and the principal > explaining my concerns, but none of us are really sure on what to do. They are > going to make sure that and the other children are kept seperate, not that > is going to be a big deal, but we don't want to take any chances. I called > and left a message at our CF clinic, but I am eager to hear what you all have to > say. > Once again. Thankyou, > > , mommy of 5 years old w/cf/adhd and 2 years old no CF > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 So, the first 20 mins are the most important time, good to know. Sometimes I feel like the moisture/sweat of the treatment itself, drips back in. Thanks, > In a message dated 1/20/2004 4:27:06 PM Central Standard Time, > findacureforcf@a... writes: > , > Pseudomonas will not affect anyone else that does not have CF. Pseudomonas > only breeds in wet areas and kids with CF have sticky mucus that is wet and > sticky so pseudomonas will breed in those areas any other kid that does not have > CF does not have sticky mucus so the kids in school do not have any fears about > get sick from you son having pseudomonas. If they do get pseudomonas in there > throat they can cough it out but our kids can't because there mucus is > sticky. So tell your school there is nothing to worry about unless the other kids > you are worried about has CF. Oh and about the time it takes to do Tobi it > usually takes 30 to 40 minutes for my girls to get through it and I have talked to > our doctors about and he says the most important part of the treatment is > about the first 20 minutes so when 30 minutes are up we are done if it is all gone > or not. I hope this helps. Deb A > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Hi , This is probably late but I wanted to write. I am glad you are feeling more reassured about the pseudomonas. 50 minutes is too long. You need a different nebulizer or maybe compressor. Those things don't last forever. It should take about 20-30 minutes. As for him being around other children unless they have cf it should be ok. Even children with other lung problems don't get pseudo as far as I know. Keep us posted. Is doing better? love, M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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