Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Hi there. I'm writting on behalf of my husband, D. He is 26, and has had acute pancreatitis 4 times in the past year and 3 months. Although gallbladder issues run in his family, they have turned up nothing on the ultrasound. The GI doc at the hospital says that it must be the sphincter. He is refering him to University of Louisville hospital for an ERCP to cut and/or stent the ducts. This is upsetting because, from what I have read, the complication rate is high, and sucess rate is not as high as one would hope. I also have read that scarring can completely block the duct later on...needing more surgery, and possibly causing major illness. His attacks usually follow a large or fatty meal...particularly if he has not eaten in a while. We have been getting the run-around for a year, and feel that the docs suck! Has anyone had a similar experience? Any info/advise on the SOM- sphinter or oddi manometry? His attacks resolve themselves quickly, but indigestion follows for weeks/months. Does anyone know of any other procedures that may be able to be performed first....or anything?? Help. We are so upset, confused, and disappointed in our GI docs here. Thanks, we appreciate all answers and advice! dk_40207 @ yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Hi , I will try to answer some of your questions based on my experience with SOD, pancreatitis and stents (as well as gallbladder surgery) and my research into literature relating to these issues. First off....from what I understand, someone in your husband's situation usually is advised to have the gall bladder removed as a first step. Alot of times, recurrent acute pancreatitis attacks, such as what you described can be caused by gallstones that migrate into the common bile duct or even into the main pancraetic duct. The bigger stones should be seen on ERCP, MRCP, ultrasound or CT. The smaller stones (microlithiasis), or sludge may not be seen on any of these imaging studies but can be implicated in causing acute pancreatitis. The significance of this knowledge is that even though no stones can be seen by the conventional imaging studies, cutting the sphincter to the common bile duct like you described, oftentimes " cures " the acute pancreatitis attacks - that is, stops them. If after recovery from this surgery (the gallbladder removal) a patient isn't improved, then more studies will ensue...like the whole ERCP and maybe an EUS, etc. Usually this is the recommended procedure for a patient that has recurrent acute attacks: The first attack is usually not investigated too intensly unless it is very severe or has abnormal LFTs to suggest that there is gallbladder problems. After the second one, the cause is usually more aggressively looked at and if the gall bladder is still present and there is no particular reason to NOT do gall bladder surgery...then that is the next step (along with an interoperative cholangiography to make sure there are no stones in the common bile duct - if stones are found, then a sphincterotomy may be done at time of surgery or usually aftewards via ERCP depending on the surgeon, patient, etc). If attacks still recur, then ERCP with or without manometry is done. This will look at the bile ducts, the pancreas ducts and then take a reading of the pressures within the sphincter of Oddi (if manometry is indicated). If the pressures are abnormal or if there are stones found in the ducts, then a sphincterotomy is done. Sometimes when a sphincterotomy is done, a endoscopist will insert a stent in order to keep the sphincter and duct open while it is healing. Usually this type of stent is a self migrating kind and will only stay in about 7 to 14 days or so and then expell on its own. Other times, depending on the endoscopist, etc a different type of stent is placed which will need another endoscopic procedure to retrieve it. At this time too, another cause for the pancreatitis may be found - for example pancreas divisum or annular pancreas or some other anatomical reason for a duct to be blocked. The docs may also start looking at his family history too to determine if there is a liklihood of having hereditary pancreaitis, or test for auto-immune pancreatitis.....there are all sorts of things to look at...to figure out a cause. And sometimes no cause will be found and then it is true " idiopathic " pancreatitis. As far as the risk...yes it is risky (but in the scheme of medical procedures, it is a relatively low risk) to have an ERCP, but it is also very risky for your husband to have recurrent acute attacks. The longer these attacks go on, the bigger risk he has of his pancreas becoming permanently damaged. And once this happens, there is no turning back....you can slow down its inevitable destruction but you cannot reverse it completely. And if his attacks are occuring because of some obstruction, like a stone or sphincter problem, if this is fixed soon, he has a good chance of never having a problem again. Yes, fibrosis / scarring from the cut itself can occur....but if it does, it can be dealt with and in the meantime, his pancreas has had a chance to heal and has not had more attacks, hopefully. The big issue at this time for you two is to identify the cause and treat it as soon as you can so you can prevent the acute attacks from causing chronic changes in the pancreas. Most of the people on this board are here because of chronic pancreatitis and all can testify that this is something to avoid at all costs; including the risk of a diagnostic ERCP. There is a lot of good literature on-line and if you search google using " sphincter of Oddi dysfunction " or pancreatitis or even Dr Glen Lehman (he is a GI at Indiana university that has written extensively on pancreas disorders and is highly, highly recommended by many people) you will find some helpful information. There is also the journal of the pancreas that is a public access medical journal that is open to all (www.joplink.net). But basically it all comes down to this: The sooner you find the cause the better chance he has of stopping this completely. The most statistically significant cause for acute recurrent pancreatitis is gall stones (as well as alcohol but this is an obvious factor which I will not address to any extent). Because of this, most GIs recommend that the gallbladder be removed as a " let's see " . If the patient gets better, then that is that. If not, then they go on to look even more closely to see if there are other reasons that they can identify and fix. I have had four ERCPs with sphincterotomies twice and stents twice. Two of these 4 were rough - as far as recovery...and two were relatively easy. But I can say without them, I would not be able to live as I am today. Sometimes the risk of the procedure is so much less than the risk of not having the procedure and if your husband is having attacks that often and if they are severe enough to affect his life then it is time to assume the risk for the sake of a cure. Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 wrote: > His attacks usually follow a large or fatty meal...particularly if he has not eaten in a while. We have been getting the run-around for a year, and feel that the docs suck! Help. We are so upset, confused, and disappointed in our GI docs here. , Not having any personal experience in sphincter problems, I really can't advise you, but I'm sure there will be several others who will gladly contribute their comments on their own experiences with SOD. One thing I did want to mention was in reaction to your statement that your husband's attacks usually follow a large or fatty meal. This would be most probable. Was given adequate instructions about the medical necessity of needing to adapt his eating habits to accommodate the restrictions of pancreatitis? Low fat diets of less than 30 grams of fat daily, and less than 6-8 grams per meal are recommended to avoid acute attacks and complications, as is the need to completely abstain from all alcohol. It's suggested that a patient eat 4-6 mini meals per day, rather than three larger ones. If can remember to do this, his chances of seeing a reduction in the amount of attacks he has will improve greatly. Learning to cope with pancreatitis requires us to make some rather difficult lifestyle adjustments, yet our diet changes are necessary and can make this condition much easier to live with. With love, hope and prayers, Heidi Heidi H. Griffeth South Carolina SC & SE Regional Rep., PAI Note: All comments or advice are based on personal experience or opinion only, and should not be substituted for consultation with a medical professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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