Re-started Intro on Week 4 - Vomiting, Runs & Mucus?

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We restarted the intro diet, as our son still has the loose stools,

even after removing the almonds, cashews and nut flours. We started

it again the day before yesterday, Tuesday. Both Tues and Wed he

wouldn't eat anything except a broiled beef patty. I did give him one

tsp of goat yogurt yesterday morning, to see if we could work that

in.

Then, yesterday at naptime, he had a " blow-out " stool in his bed, and

smeared his feces all over the inside of his bed (a modified bunk bed

of sorts). I had only HEARD about this wonderful thing, until now. :-

o It was very runny, and super foul smelling. He has had super

horrible gas since then, and non-stop " runs " , all like water

consistency. He wouldn't eat anything for dinner, except apple

cider/water (the only drink we give him now). Then last night, he

started coughing badly at 2am. I went in, and he vomited several

times over the next hour & 1/2 with him. He seemd to be cramping

badly too, or maybe just naseous? He kept crying in spells, then

seemd ok, crying, etc. We gave him some homeopathic Ipecac (didn't

work), and then gave him Zofran (we had on hand). That seemed to help

quite a bit. Then again at 5am, same thing. We got through it with

the homeopathic Ipecac, and he finally went to sleep an hour later.

Today, he has eaten nothing at all. Only apple cider/water. No more

vomiting though. His stools TODAY have all had LOTS of this wierd

mucus in them, and are all just watery. He won't eat his broiled

chicken patty tonight either. Poor thing. :-(

So, is this a virus or really BAD yeast die-off from re-starting the

intro? What on earth? This mucus is strange, and so are the watery

stools that smell so wierd, (dh says wierd septic tank smell, I think

vinegary too). Also, his vomit last night was a rust color (nothing

he ate?) that I first thought was blood. It was bizzare smell too.

His DAN doctor is recommending Florastor to get teh diarhea under

control for a bit....any thoughts on this probiotic? It is supposed

to be a " healthy " yeast that eats candida?

The only things he has had since tuesday are the plain ground beef

broiled patties (yesterday and tues had fresh garlic too), apple

cider/water mix. No supplements since yestreday morning, and then

just the ASD-PLex, Dha, Jr, and regular probiotic. Any thoughts

here?????

Also, on another note, we just did the OAT and Yeast Culture

Sensitivity Test combo. Anyone else doing these? We also did the

Viral Screen, Panel 3 from Immunosciences Lab that screens for

cytomegalovirus (read about THIS!), various herpes, Epstein Barr

virus, etc. Has anyone else done these virus screens, and if so, did

you see elevated titers for the diseases? Meleah, I know you

mentioned doing Valtrex. Did you do viral screens too? Which ones?

Thanks in advance -

:-)

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,

We've done very few tests thus far, and no virus screens...just the standard

viral titers. The stools and vomitting sound like some major die off. Many

people get D during die off, and some do even vomit. The smell of both, mucous,

ect. make me think it's die off. I'd just hang in there. Perhaps some of these

foods that you eliminated recently were allowing some really nasty yeast and

bacteria to hang on in there, and now they've finally run out of food. Keep us

updated, and I wouldn't worry about him not eating at this point...he's drinking

and that's what's important. Sorry I can't be more helpful with the virus and

testing questions.

Meleah

Re-started Intro on Week 4 - Vomiting, Runs & Mucus?

We restarted the intro diet, as our son still has the loose stools,

even after removing the almonds, cashews and nut flours. We started

it again the day before yesterday, Tuesday. Both Tues and Wed he

wouldn't eat anything except a broiled beef patty. I did give him one

tsp of goat yogurt yesterday morning, to see if we could work that

in.

Then, yesterday at naptime, he had a " blow-out " stool in his bed, and

smeared his feces all over the inside of his bed (a modified bunk bed

of sorts). I had only HEARD about this wonderful thing, until now. :-

o It was very runny, and super foul smelling. He has had super

horrible gas since then, and non-stop " runs " , all like water

consistency. He wouldn't eat anything for dinner, except apple

cider/water (the only drink we give him now). Then last night, he

started coughing badly at 2am. I went in, and he vomited several

times over the next hour & 1/2 with him. He seemd to be cramping

badly too, or maybe just naseous? He kept crying in spells, then

seemd ok, crying, etc. We gave him some homeopathic Ipecac (didn't

work), and then gave him Zofran (we had on hand). That seemed to help

quite a bit. Then again at 5am, same thing. We got through it with

the homeopathic Ipecac, and he finally went to sleep an hour later.

Today, he has eaten nothing at all. Only apple cider/water. No more

vomiting though. His stools TODAY have all had LOTS of this wierd

mucus in them, and are all just watery. He won't eat his broiled

chicken patty tonight either. Poor thing. :-(

So, is this a virus or really BAD yeast die-off from re-starting the

intro? What on earth? This mucus is strange, and so are the watery

stools that smell so wierd, (dh says wierd septic tank smell, I think

vinegary too). Also, his vomit last night was a rust color (nothing

he ate?) that I first thought was blood. It was bizzare smell too.

His DAN doctor is recommending Florastor to get teh diarhea under

control for a bit....any thoughts on this probiotic? It is supposed

to be a " healthy " yeast that eats candida?

The only things he has had since tuesday are the plain ground beef

broiled patties (yesterday and tues had fresh garlic too), apple

cider/water mix. No supplements since yestreday morning, and then

just the ASD-PLex, Dha, Jr, and regular probiotic. Any thoughts

here?????

Also, on another note, we just did the OAT and Yeast Culture

Sensitivity Test combo. Anyone else doing these? We also did the

Viral Screen, Panel 3 from Immunosciences Lab that screens for

cytomegalovirus (read about THIS!), various herpes, Epstein Barr

virus, etc. Has anyone else done these virus screens, and if so, did

you see elevated titers for the diseases? Meleah, I know you

mentioned doing Valtrex. Did you do viral screens too? Which ones?

Thanks in advance -

:-)

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This *could* be die-off.... or a virus.... or both (lucky you! ). Does he have

any other symptoms.... fever, etc?

The stools today sound like you are getting yeast die-off. That's what quite a

few parents have reported seeing.

Are you doing epsom salts baths? Activated charcoal?

I think I would hold off on that ASD-Plex until he settles down a bit.... it's

got a lot of Vitamin C in it, which might enhance diarrhea.... and mag citrate

has that effect, too. Maybe wait a week to introduce it.

What's your " regular probiotic " ?

Florastor is just s.boulardii..... which is helpful against clostridia

infections, if you suspect that. I have not heard of it being used to " eat

yeast " , but maybe others know more about that. I'm not entirely sure the

Florastor product is completely SCD legal.... it was really hard, from their

website, to find out what other ingredients were in it. You'd have to read the

actual product label to make sure.

Patti

Re-started Intro on Week 4 - Vomiting, Runs & Mucus?

We restarted the intro diet, as our son still has the loose stools,

even after removing the almonds, cashews and nut flours. We started

it again the day before yesterday, Tuesday. Both Tues and Wed he

wouldn't eat anything except a broiled beef patty. I did give him one

tsp of goat yogurt yesterday morning, to see if we could work that

in.

Then, yesterday at naptime, he had a " blow-out " stool in his bed, and

smeared his feces all over the inside of his bed (a modified bunk bed

of sorts). I had only HEARD about this wonderful thing, until now. :-

o It was very runny, and super foul smelling. He has had super

horrible gas since then, and non-stop " runs " , all like water

consistency. He wouldn't eat anything for dinner, except apple

cider/water (the only drink we give him now). Then last night, he

started coughing badly at 2am. I went in, and he vomited several

times over the next hour & 1/2 with him. He seemd to be cramping

badly too, or maybe just naseous? He kept crying in spells, then

seemd ok, crying, etc. We gave him some homeopathic Ipecac (didn't

work), and then gave him Zofran (we had on hand). That seemed to help

quite a bit. Then again at 5am, same thing. We got through it with

the homeopathic Ipecac, and he finally went to sleep an hour later.

Today, he has eaten nothing at all. Only apple cider/water. No more

vomiting though. His stools TODAY have all had LOTS of this wierd

mucus in them, and are all just watery. He won't eat his broiled

chicken patty tonight either. Poor thing. :-(

So, is this a virus or really BAD yeast die-off from re-starting the

intro? What on earth? This mucus is strange, and so are the watery

stools that smell so wierd, (dh says wierd septic tank smell, I think

vinegary too). Also, his vomit last night was a rust color (nothing

he ate?) that I first thought was blood. It was bizzare smell too.

His DAN doctor is recommending Florastor to get teh diarhea under

control for a bit....any thoughts on this probiotic? It is supposed

to be a " healthy " yeast that eats candida?

The only things he has had since tuesday are the plain ground beef

broiled patties (yesterday and tues had fresh garlic too), apple

cider/water mix. No supplements since yestreday morning, and then

just the ASD-PLex, Dha, Jr, and regular probiotic. Any thoughts

here?????

Also, on another note, we just did the OAT and Yeast Culture

Sensitivity Test combo. Anyone else doing these? We also did the

Viral Screen, Panel 3 from Immunosciences Lab that screens for

cytomegalovirus (read about THIS!), various herpes, Epstein Barr

virus, etc. Has anyone else done these virus screens, and if so, did

you see elevated titers for the diseases? Meleah, I know you

mentioned doing Valtrex. Did you do viral screens too? Which ones?

Thanks in advance -

:-)

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Hi ,

<<... he had a " blow-out " stool in his bed, and

> smeared his feces all over the inside of his bed (a modified bunk

bed > of sorts). I had only HEARD about this wonderful thing, until

now. :-> o It was very runny, and super foul smelling. He has had

super > horrible gas since then, and non-stop " runs " , all like water

> consistency. He wouldn't eat anything for dinner, except apple

> cider/water (the only drink we give him now). ...

> So, is this a virus or really BAD yeast die-off from re-starting

the intro? What on earth? >>

It may be a virus but with the timing of your intro diet restart I'd

think it's more likely to be some awful die off.

<< His DAN doctor is recommending Florastor to get teh diarhea under

> control for a bit....any thoughts on this probiotic? It is supposed

> to be a " healthy " yeast that eats candida? >>

When I investigated Floratsor it either had illegals or additives I

wasn't able to tolerate. Just checked -it was lactose

http://www.newtimrx.com/florastor.html

I take Kirkman's S. boulardii. It lists only plant cellulose as the

other ingredient. They are smaller capsules than the florastor

(perhaps becuse they don't have the fillers). I have found the S.

boulardii to work very well in getting my diarrhea under control (I

have had a bad yeast problem that the S. boulardii seems to be

helping very well). Some of the info I've read on S.boulardii

indicates that it helps other good microbes (yogurt or probiotic

bacteria) populate the bowel and push out harmful microbes. I found

that taking the S. b. allowed me to tolerate yogurt again. Since

then my bm's have firmed back up.

Sheila, SCD Feb, 2001, UC 23 yrs

mom of Em and Dan