Trying to figure out what is going on- any help appreciated

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Day 19 into diet for ASD 3 year old. I've got 3 questions.

1 - I saw a post from Patti asking if " phenols " was possibly causing

hyper and stimming behaviors. My son has had these behaviors which

i thought was caused by the acidopholis. Are phenols explained in

the BTVC book? I have had little sleep the last few days and can

really tell my brain is in sluggish mode, so maybe I have read it in

the book but don't recall.

2- He slept in his bed all night Monday night (rare) and ever since

then he has been whiney, in a fog, stimming has increased,

hyperactivity has decreased. Yesterday he was the most " out of it "

that I have EVER seen him. I know these behaviors increase while on

this diet, while die off occurs, but it's kinda freaking me out.

It's weird at the beginning of the diet, the hyperactivity started

and now we have done a 180 with little interaction with anyone and

VERY limited talking, mostly repeating words from Blues Clues.

3- as it pertains to the lack of sleep- G has woken up the last 3

nights around 11:00pm and been crying. Since he has limited

language skills we can never figure out why. He is moving his legs

alot and will grab at them, so we are assuming it's leg cramps.

Last week during the day, he complained of a leg hurting and

needing " med-cin " . Could leg aches be a sign of something. When I

give him some Motrin he almost immediately stops crying. It

recently dawned on me that the Motrin has corn syrup in it and one

I've got to find a differnt medicine and two was he crying because

the yeast are firing up while he is sleeping, so the little bit of

medicine did something????

I need some help clarifying some of his changes. Any thoughts as to

what is going on? All input greatly appreciated!!!!

THANKS

Becky

Son ASD

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Hi Becky,

Sensitivity to phenols is not really an SCD issue... but is one that many of

the parents of autistic kids are familiar with. So, no... you won't find

mention of it in BTVC. I honestly don't know much about it, except that many

parents report it. I would have to Google " phenols " to find out what foods are

high in them... but I am going to leave that up to you. I know some parents use

the " NoFenol " enzymes from Houston Nutraceuticals, which seems to help some.

We also know that some kids have difficulty tolerating probiotics. Not sure

exactly why this is. It could be due to various factors.... could even be

related to the effect probiotics have on calcium oxalate crystals in the body.

It seems that probiotics tend to cause those crystals to dissolve.... which is a

GOOD thing, BUT it leaves you with two things, if the theory behind

Tamaro's research holds true... you have oxalic acid waste which gets dumped

into the gut to be disposed of, and is very irritating, AND it frees up calcium

to float around unmanaged in the body and brain. This can be irritating to the

neuro system. So, to be very brief (it's a complicated and basically non-SCD

issue) you can counter that with adequate magnesium (not the citrate form, I

found out!!).... but you also MUST have adequate vitamins A, D and K on board

to help the body put that freed calcium where it belongs, in the bones and

teeth. That's all I'm going to say about the topic, but you can learn a lot more

from over at her Vitamin K list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VitaminK/

(Be sure to read her " files " section for the basic research paper and the

protocol.)

<<G has woken up the last 3

nights around 11:00pm and been crying. Since he has limited

language skills we can never figure out why. He is moving his legs

alot and will grab at them, so we are assuming it's leg cramps.

Last week during the day, he complained of a leg hurting and

needing " med-cin " . Could leg aches be a sign of something.>>

Magnesium might help a LOT.... but I'm honestly don't know what would cause the

leg cramps. Do you have him on magnesium already? What about CLO (still thinking

about the vitamin A & D)? What other supplements?

YES.... the bit of sugar in the Motrin can really mess things up at this point,

so don't give that again. If you have to give Motrin, use the adult tablets (you

might have to get it compounded if the dosage isn't right.... these tablets are

hard to split in half).... and grind them up and mix in applesauce or something.

There would still be a trace of starch filler in that, but way better than

giving the sugar. Ideally, you would not use this for very long, or very

often... but if he's in pain, you have to do something, I know. Motrin

(ibuprofen) is really hard on the gut, by the way. There is just no good

options for pain relievers... they're all bad in some way, darn it.

Are you giving him epsom salts baths? This is a great way to get magnesium in

through the skin..... helps ease die-off symptoms and is calming.

Patti