Second Opinion

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In a message dated 10/08/2002 10:43:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, iambored97601@... writes:

in the state of Oregon, in order to claim medical

expenses on your taxes, the dollar amount you pay out of pocket has

to be equal to or greater than 7.5% of your total income for that

year.

I don't know about Oregon but I think that 7.5% is the federal figure also for itemizing medical expenses. It's a pretty high standard, but if you have a lower-end income (like myself!) it can be met. If you think you might be ballpark, be careful to save your receipts & check the rules. The 7.5% includes any medical insurance premiums you pay yourself, co-pays, dental, some equipment, mileage (@ .32 per, govt rate) & tolls/parking for medical appts, maybe some other stuff, for you & your dependents.

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In a message dated 10/9/2002 10:56:21 AM Central Daylight Time, kervin@... writes:

With the POS plan you have to

choose Dr's that are part of their plan (Zach's pediatrician is part of

their plan) but their primary physician may give you a recommendation to

see any specialist they choose and as long as you get this referral it

is also covered 100%.

That is not so with CIGNA you HAVE to use contracted providers unless there is no contracted provider in that specialty available. They will rarely issue a referral when a contracted dr is available. If you use a non-contracted dr you go out of network.

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Hi christina,

I will try to explain my situation as we have been seeing Dr. Roberson

for two years now. In many situations PPOs are the best way to go

because you can see any doctor you choose--but you will have to pay a

certain percentage--with mine I would be paying about 20% to see Dr.

Roberson and that would get expensive. With the POS plan you have to

choose Dr's that are part of their plan (Zach's pediatrician is part of

their plan) but their primary physician may give you a recommendation to

see any specialist they choose and as long as you get this referral it

is also covered 100%. I know The California Ear Institute receives

a " network negotiated " payment from my insurance company--Aetna which is

a great deal less than what is charged. I often have wondered how they

can afford to accept something so much less than they charge and if this

will prevent some doctors from specializing in these areas.

I can also tell you that I believe for the entire surgery--including

hospital costs and anesthesia etc... I believe the cost was

approximately 12K which seems to fall in the same area as you have

previously paid.

I am wondering--did they also do any type of hearing test with you

yesterday? Not that that would explain the whole bill but that may also

be expensive. Good luck and I hope this gets resolved for you!

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

I misspoke about the PPO plan---if you go " In-Network " usually it is

covered 100% but if you go " out of network " it is 80% after

deductible--which may vary. The PPO plan offered here also has a " out

of pocket maximum " of $500.00/individual. These are all important

things to know before your surgery.

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At 05:33 PM 10/8/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Nope. Just getting the opinion of two doctors and a

>suction of all the debris. Yeah, they must think we

>are all millionaires or something. Sorry, I missed the

>dot com era!! : )

Call them and ask if they'll adjust your bill since you're paying cash. It

doesn't hurt to ask. THEY will do it for their own family members (or have

someone like me, their office manager, do it for them). If they accept any

type of insurance plans, whether they be HMO, PPO, Medicare, etc., they

adjust their fees for those types of contracts. Don't just accept that you

have to pay that since that was what you were billed. There is a

tremendous amount of negotiation going on in doctor's offices and hospitals

in the US. The health care dollar is being spread thinly between many

different providers and they are used to taking what they can get. This is

the reality in today's health care market and they have to do this if they

want to stay in business. I will even negotiate with a PPO when our office

is not a preferred provider, accepting their rates just so we can do the

surgery on their member, out of network. It's more common than you may

realize.

It also doesn't hurt to ask your preferred surgeon if they will accept your

insurance company's rates and negotiate with your insurance provider to

accept an out of network provider for your surgery. Don't just assume that

because a surgeon is not on your plan, that you can't have them. The

surgeon usually will say yes and your insurance company doesn't want to

lose you, their customer. Make a lot of noise and don't accept no for an

answer the first time around. Work your way up the management chain in

your insurance plan. Be tenacious. The average health care consumer

doesn't have a clue how powerful they really are. Feel free to email me if

you have any questions about this. I work for a surgeon and I do this kind

of thing all of the time.

Diane Brunet

[Guest guest]

Great advice Diane,

I had a friend that almost died of an aneurysm while waiting for her

primary care physician to give her a referral to a neurologist. He

thought the massive lump in her head, along with her massive headache was

caused by a migrane and put off the referral. I was so frustrated

that she just didn't insist on the referral but she was afraid she would

have to pay! We have to be our own advocates here in the health care

field and be very proactive if we need something done. Thanks for

the great advice for all of us.

Sassy Suds wrote:

At 05:33 PM 10/8/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Nope. Just getting the opinion of two doctors and a

>suction of all the debris. Yeah, they must think we

>are all millionaires or something. Sorry, I missed the

>dot com era!! : )

Call them and ask if they'll adjust your bill since you're paying

cash. It

doesn't hurt to ask. THEY will do it for their own family

members (or have

someone like me, their office manager, do it for them). If

they accept any

type of insurance plans, whether they be HMO, PPO, Medicare, etc.,

they

adjust their fees for those types of contracts. Don't just

accept that you

have to pay that since that was what you were billed. There

is a

tremendous amount of negotiation going on in doctor's offices and

hospitals

in the US. The health care dollar is being spread thinly

between many

different providers and they are used to taking what they can get.

This is

the reality in today's health care market and they have to do this

if they

want to stay in business. I will even negotiate with a PPO

when our office

is not a preferred provider, accepting their rates just so we can

do the

surgery on their member, out of network. It's more common

than you may

realize.

It also doesn't hurt to ask your preferred surgeon if they will

accept your

insurance company's rates and negotiate with your insurance provider

to

accept an out of network provider for your surgery. Don't

just assume that

because a surgeon is not on your plan, that you can't have them.

The

surgeon usually will say yes and your insurance company doesn't

want to

lose you, their customer. Make a lot of noise and don't accept

no for an

answer the first time around. Work your way up the management

chain in

your insurance plan. Be tenacious. The average health

care consumer

doesn't have a clue how powerful they really are. Feel free

to email me if

you have any questions about this. I work for a surgeon and

I do this kind

of thing all of the time.

Diane Brunet

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Elsa,

I just looked at the website. The Direct System looks

very interesting and thank you for sharing the

website. I did some research and found that it is

being done by implant surgeons so I think this is

likely what you need as these implant surgeons seem to

be very caring with their patients doing for them what

they feel would be most helpful.

If it were me, I'd follow the doctor's advice.

Hopefully, these will be exactly what you need. If

not, this doctor you have seen will likely refer you

for a cochlear implant at some future date.

It would be nice if you could try these for a trial

period. Did you ask if this is possible? One thing

is sure..you can't have a trial with a CI.

Alice

[Guest guest]

> Just wanted to express my joy at having received an appoval from my primary

care physician to go to a large hospital in my area <

Awesome !! I know that made you very happy to have some progress.

And yes...even though I hate taking all these meds and scheduling my life around

them, I do have some quality of life that others don't. Grateful for the little

things, even when sometimes the anger and depression take over.

Anyway...let us know what the big wig hospital says!

Viv in GA

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Congradulation !So happy to hear your getting a second opinion.

Everyone is intitled to one. Im still waiting to hear from my hmo about finding

me

another ortho for my shoulder. I'm starting to agree with your about pain meds.

I have been in the bedfor 2 days hurting so bad that All I wanted to do was

sleep. Un like you my doctors donot give me anything for the pain. I took some

anti mania med, that I have to take when Im in a manic mode and they put me to

sleep, so for two days I have been asleep, only to wake up today still

suffering. I'm very happy for you though. Take care and let us know what the

Dr.

says.

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Lara,

Sorry to hear about your challenges with the cysts on your ovaries. I have a

pretty good idea as to what you might be experiencing both physically and

emotionally. I am really glad to hear that you are following up with getting a

second opinion and know that you will feel much better about things when you

hear the final results. Trust your intuition regarding your health and don't

be afraid to ask questions and seek out all of the advice that you need.

Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers!

ita in OK

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3/14/2005, lara1029@... writes: << PLEASE PRAY THAT EVERYTHING

WILL BE OKAY!!!>>

Dear Lara,

There is always time for a spare prayer. Wishing you all the best and

sending tons of healing thoughts.

Patty H

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Hey Tracie in Maine, Have been watching your posts and been wondering just what

part of Maine you are from. I spent the first 40 years of my life in Maine and

miss it so much. I know that the winters are hard but the fall makes up for it.

I hope that you find the right dr. It is so important for the two of you to be

on the same page. Good luck from another Maniac.

Judith Ann in Az.

tracierae143 <tracierae@...> wrote:

Hi,

Well I got up the courage to request a second opinion from a different

rheumy from my primary care doctor who I would also like to switch,

but I do not want to do too much to fast. Has anyone else been down

this road before? I am kind of scared that this new rheumy will

totally blow me off, but he is supposed to be the best in the area and

comes highly recommended. Since my doctors are not interested in

attending to any sort of pain management plan I have to start

somewhere, but I am not sure if this is the right step. I hope so.

If anyone thinks another approach would be better, I am all ears so to

speak!!

Thanks,

Tracie in Howland

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I think it's a good idea, Tracie. If your current physicians won't treat

your pain or refer you to someone who will, you should move on.

Let's hope for the best with the new guy.

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] Second opinion

> Hi,

>

> Well I got up the courage to request a second opinion from a different

> rheumy from my primary care doctor who I would also like to switch,

> but I do not want to do too much to fast. Has anyone else been down

> this road before? I am kind of scared that this new rheumy will

> totally blow me off, but he is supposed to be the best in the area and

> comes highly recommended. Since my doctors are not interested in

> attending to any sort of pain management plan I have to start

> somewhere, but I am not sure if this is the right step. I hope so.

> If anyone thinks another approach would be better, I am all ears so to

> speak!!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tracie in Howland

[Guest guest]

In my personal opinion a second opinion is always your best option.

That way you will not regret not having done it and if your baby does

not get better on their own you will have done all you could. My

daughter was seen by her first ortho here and I got a second opinion

at Shriners. Shriners found that her scoli definately needed to be

casted not just braced and they also discovered that she had

bilateral hip dyplaisia. If I had not gotten a second opinion

somewhere we probably would not found out about her hips until it was

to late to fix them with just a cast. She would have required lots

of surgeries the older she had gotten if we had not discovered the

hip dysplaisia. Hers was the kind that you cannot detect just by

moving her hips around. They did not have have a popping sound like

most. We have since corrected her hips and will not require any

surgery which is a big relief. My 1st ortho wanted to just brace her

for her scoli and even admitted it would not correct her 36 degree

curve it would just maintain it. That was not good enough for me. I

wanted to correct if the option was out there and try to avoid sugery

later in life if possible. It turned out that her scoli was very

progressive. In a months time while waiting to get her in a cast she

progressed to 47 degrees. I am grateful I decided to explore all

options first and then make a decision. You need to first find out

the RVAD which usually can tell you if it is a progressive scoli or

not. Good luck and keep us updated!!

Hansen

Mike Hansen

Hansen 4 years

Lily Hansen 20 months

-- In infantile scoliosis treatment , " basketsnboyds "

<basketsnboyds@y...> wrote:

>

> HI-

> I posted a few weeks ago and you all were wonderful to respond-

> Thanks so much. I STILL haven't heard from his appointment at

> Baptist Hospital, there hasn't been any report sent to our peds

> yet,however, I do plan to call today to ask the degree of his

curve.

> They didn't even mention it at our first appointment-

> I was thinking of making another appointment with another Ped.

> Ortho, my questions to you all:

> 1. Don't you think that would be beneficial giving that Evan is

only

> 18weeks old and his first DR is taking the waiting approach for 3

> months?

> 2. Wouldn't it be beneficial as well to see someone to do an MRI to

> make sure it's not neurologically connected or complicating other

> organs?

> 3. How do I go about requesting an MRI and a visit to possibly a

> neurologist? Not sure Evan even needs to see one-

> I would apprecaite any ideas or information you all could help me

> think out. I am trying to think pro-actively for Evan since he is

so

> young, I hate to waste precious time just waiting-but then on the

> other side of that, I think-Well this Dr saw him and was confident

> it was infantile scoliosis, they think it will prob correct itself

> and not to worry about this causing him any other developmental or

> physical problems. I asked specifically, " Will this delay him in

any

> way with rolling, crawling, walking? and also, " Do I need to worry

> about the hip dysplagia or anything else? " and was told not to

worry-

> Sorry this is so long.

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

> Gracie 5-28-03

> Evan 8-7-05

>

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Hi ,

I do think a second opinion would be beneficial. Like already mentioned, in addition to getting the cobb angle you need to ask for the RVAD measurement. If the RVAD is over 20 degrees it is usually progressive. Also, how much rotation he has plays a big factor on if it will progress. My son's RVAD measurement was borderline as to whether he would progress or not, but he has significant rotation and that is also an indicator as to whether it will progress or not. I would also ask what his rotation is if you can.

YES, I would definitely say an MRI is beneficial and am really surprised that it hasn't already been ordered. The MRI is used to rule out a tethered cord and any other possible issues that might not show up on an x-ray. You will really want to make sure that it is not congenital and the MRI can help rule this out.

The first Ortho that I saw was affiliated with a hospital that had a 2 month wait for the MRI. Of course, this was unacceptable since leaving something like a tethered spinal cord untreated can lead to permanent problems. So, I called my pediatrician and got her to the write the order to have it done at another hospital. In your case, I would either talk to your ortho or just go through your pediatrician and get him to call in the order for you.

As for the whole wait and watch thing, I guess it all depends how significant your son's curve is, but I will say that my son went from 36 degrees to 43 degrees in the space of 4 weeks and I couldn't tell the difference by looking at him. The two orthos I saw here recommended bracing (neither of them specialize in infantile scoli) and told me it would not correct his curve, but hopefully it would hold the curve (with no guarantee that would even hold it). So, we went to Shriners and he was put in a cast last month. He is 7 degrees in the cast right now. I loved the staff there because they explained EVERYTHING to me and I didn't feel intimidated or scared to ask questions like I did with our first ortho.

My email is noellesmommy@... if you ever want to chat.

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Second opinion

HI-I posted a few weeks ago and you all were wonderful to respond-Thanks so much. I STILL haven't heard from his appointment at Baptist Hospital, there hasn't been any report sent to our peds yet,however, I do plan to call today to ask the degree of his curve. They didn't even mention it at our first appointment-I was thinking of making another appointment with another Ped. Ortho, my questions to you all: 1. Don't you think that would be beneficial giving that Evan is only 18weeks old and his first DR is taking the waiting approach for 3 months? 2. Wouldn't it be beneficial as well to see someone to do an MRI to make sure it's not neurologically connected or complicating other organs? 3. How do I go about requesting an MRI and a visit to possibly a neurologist? Not sure Evan even needs to see one-I would apprecaite any ideas or information you all could help me think out. I am trying to think pro-actively for Evan since he is so young, I hate to waste precious time just waiting-but then on the other side of that, I think-Well this Dr saw him and was confident it was infantile scoliosis, they think it will prob correct itself and not to worry about this causing him any other developmental or physical problems. I asked specifically, "Will this delay him in any way with rolling, crawling, walking? and also,"Do I need to worry about the hip dysplagia or anything else?" and was told not to worry-Sorry this is so long. Thanks in advance. Gracie 5-28-03Evan 8-7-05

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Hi Don

Call Dr. Darald Bolin. He is on Lansing in Salem and has done 2nd opinions for years and will give you an honest and unbiased exam and report.

Hope that helps

Dr. Ray

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "leary353@..." <leary353@...> Any suggestions for a good second opinion doctor for a MVA involving time loss?Outside the Salem area, but not too far.Thanks,Don Leary, DCSalem

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IMHO a second opinion is always a good idea. Make sure, if possible,

that you are seeing an otologist and not just an ENT. In case you

are not familiar-an otologist is an ENT who has completed a two year fellowship

totally focusing on issues concerning ears. Ask your surgeon how often

he performs this type of surgery and hopefully he responds several times per

week or at least per month.

My son is now 21 and he was diagnosed at 15.

My best to you and your son.

Audrey

second opinion

I have just joined your group because my 19-year-old son has been

diagnosed with cholesteatoma recently. (The doctor did do a CT scan.)

Has anyone every gotten a

second opinion from another doctor? If so, were the results the

same? I don't want to rush into surgery, but have one scheduled for

the end of the month. I'm just wondering if a second opinion is a

good idea.

Thanks!

Barbara

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Hi ,

Happy New year to you too :^) .

Sorry, I'm not writing to answer the question about an Endo but I

was quite stunned that your dr doesn't know what's wrong with you.

Your TSH has been at the top of the 'normal' range for 4 years and

you have antibodies so it's quite clear that you have Hashimoto's!

Who on earth trains these GPs?

Luv Bella

>

> Hi all, hope you had a good christmas and new year.

>

> I need some help please. My doctor has seen sense, said he doesn't

know

> what is wrong with me as he thought it was sleep apnoea and

although I

> do have this it is very mild and my sleepiness doesn't improve with

> treatment. He is giving me an open referral so I can pick the

endo I

> want.

>

> Please can anyone advise of any endo's known to diagnose despite

> " normal " labs, preferably in the Essex area but willing to travel

if

> necessary, preferably NHS but private in a pinch.

>

> Just to recap:

> TSH 3.12, 3.89, 3.7 and 3.36 (0.4-4.0) over the last six years

> Antibodies 242 (ref <49)

>

> Symptoms include excessive daytime tiredness, unrefreshing sleep,

brain

> fog, lack of concentration, acid indigestion, hip, back and wrist

pain,

> sinus problems, dry eye etc etc

>

> Regards

>

>

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Hi

For TPA-UK, it has been an excellent Christmas and hopefully, it is going to be an excellent New Year. I most certainly has started very well with the article in yesterday's Daily Mail. Have you read it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=506717 & in_page_id=1774

> I need some help please. My doctor has seen sense, said he doesn't know> what is wrong with me as he thought it was sleep apnoea and although I> do have this it is very mild and my sleepiness doesn't improve with> treatment. He is giving me an open referral so I can pick the endo I> want.

Go to our website www.tpa-uk.org.uk and click "Hypothyroidism" in the Menu, you will find a sub menu giving you the symptoms and signs. Check off what you have against that list. Untreated hypothyroid sufferers can have problems with sleep apnoea, but once treated and on the correct dose of thyroid hormone replacement, this usually rights itself.> > Please can anyone advise of any endo's known to diagnose despite> "normal" labs, preferably in the Essex area but willing to travel if> necessary, preferably NHS but private in a pinch.

Who is the endocrinologist in your own area. Give us his name and we will try to find out whether he is OK (or not). Have you looked at our "Doctors who will" in our Files to see if there might be somebody suitable there.> > Just to recap:> TSH 3.12, 3.89, 3.7 and 3.36 (0.4-4.0) over the last six years> Antibodies 242 (ref <49)

Well, let me put it this way , if you were living in Germany, they have a reference range for TSH of 0.5 to 2.5. You would have been diagnosed long ago over there. In America, they have a reference range for TSH of 0.3 to 3.0 - so you would have been diagnosed long ago had you been living there too.

There are few doctors willing to diagnose and treat within the NHS because of the power of the British Thyroid Association activists. No doctor wants hauling before the GMC and lose his living. However, there are some around, but it is a question of finding them. You could always telephone the endocrinologists in your area and ask their thoughts. > > Symptoms include excessive daytime tiredness, unrefreshing sleep, brain> fog, lack of concentration, acid indigestion, hip, back and wrist pain,> sinus problems, dry eye etc etc

Your GP needs sacking. Can you find another one who, if he doesn't already know about the symptoms and signs of hypothyroidism, would, at least, be prepared to do a little research to find the answer himself. Any doctor should know what you are suffering is hypothyroidism, especially as you have antibodies to your thyroid. The antibodies destroy your thyroid tissue, and this is the reason you cannot put out the amount of thyroid hormone to make your body function properly.

Luv - Sheila> > Regards> >

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> Symptoms include excessive daytime tiredness, unrefreshing sleep, brain> fog, lack of concentration, acid indigestion, hip, back and wrist pain,> sinus problems, dry eye etc etc<<<

My sister had all these symptoms including hair falling out, soon after she had her child, which she had after many years of miscarriages. For 4 years her GP was sending her to all different consultants for all the different symptoms. He did umpteen blood tests. Told my sister there was nothing wrong with her and that he had done every test.

Four years later she saw a locum who immediately did a thyroid test and found she was hypothyroid. When she confronted her GP that he had told her he had done every test, but obviously had not, all he said was that he didn't think a thyroid test was necessary.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

Hi SheilaMany thanks for the response.the article in yesterday's Daily Mail. Have you read it:The article is great isn't it? It adds a certain validity to our arguments when printed in black and white doesn't it!> Who is the endocrinologist in your own area. Give us his name and we> will try to find out whether he is OK (or not). Have you looked at our> "Doctors who will" in our Files to see if there might be somebody> suitable there.The endo in my area is Dr Bodmer who is on your list of doctors who will but he wouldn't give me the time of day as my TSH was "normal"!My GP suggested Dr Fletcher in Chelmsford then thought better of it. When you click on endocrinology on the Broomfield Hospital website it goes straight to diabetes!The fact that he has given me an open referral suggests to me that he does not know of any endo's who are sympathetic to the hypo while labs "normal" view.My aunt had mentioned a Dr Dent in Hertford but the only info I can find on him suggests he is not an endo. My aunt thought that he ran a private thyroid clinic. Anyone heard of him?Cheers

[Guest guest]

I hope no one gets their feathers ruffled over your questions. I think the

answer is a little of both. I think doctors where you are, work for the

patients. The doctors here, (quite often) work for the insurance company and

forget who actually pays the bills. This brings us to a problem of trust as we

all want someone we trust poking around in our brains and spines. Doctor

shopping can sometimes be someone looking for the answer that they want to hear

but, I think, it is far more often a search for someone that can see the patient

behind the diagnosis.

Lexie

[Guest guest]

thank you for your honest opinion and also seeing what i was trying to see

despite the actual words i never thought about it from that pespective as your

right here it is the nhs so there is nothing else for the doctors to think about

just you and your condition

[Guest guest]

I believe that multiple opinions are almost always the better idea.

Doctors can only offer and educated guess. Experience is also very

valuable, and the people in this group may have much more experience

in specific areas than some doctors. The opinions you get from here

and research on the internet are both ways to inform yourself without

long distance travel.

When I went seeking advice, I received help from all parts of the world.

Vince

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM, teecyemp <teecyemp@...> wrote:

> I have a question I have spoken to too many doctors always about different

> things I have never gone to seperate doctors about the same problem I have

> always just done what they said and assumed it was the only option and I've

> noticed it seems to be sort of a theme among the posts to see many

> specialists about a problem is this perhaps a geographical thing i live in

> scotland and even if i wanted to see someone else the next person could be

> 150miles away am I just lazy in not questioning my doctor or are people

> trying to hear what they want.

>

> I realise this may come off wrong I dont wish to alienate the group just

> looking for different opinions I guess so I am sorry if this question

> bothers you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

J Cataldi

Doctors can only offer and educated guess.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

?

The above is probably one of the most ignorant comments I have ever read.

Physicians [especially Specialists] go to school for years on end, let alone

research, Internships, hands-on medicine and God knows what else as I am no

Doctor.

It's is my educated guess that these people are HIGHLY INTELLIGENT and I deeply

respect most of them.

It takes a unique individual who earnestly persues then actually experiences and

practices saving human lives.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Experience is also very

> valuable, and the people in this group may have much more experience

> in specific areas than some doctors. The opinions you get from here

> and research on the internet are both ways to inform yourself without

> long distance travel.

>

> When I went seeking advice, I received help from all parts of the world.

>

> Vince

>

> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM, teecyemp <teecyemp@...> wrote:

> > I have a question I have spoken to too many doctors always about different

> > things I have never gone to seperate doctors about the same problem I have

> > always just done what they said and assumed it was the only option and I've

> > noticed it seems to be sort of a theme among the posts to see many

> > specialists about a problem is this perhaps a geographical thing i live in

> > scotland and even if i wanted to see someone else the next person could be

> > 150miles away am I just lazy in not questioning my doctor or are people

> > trying to hear what they want.

> >

> > I realise this may come off wrong I dont wish to alienate the group just

> > looking for different opinions I guess so I am sorry if this question

> > bothers you.

> >

> >

>