Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Hi Yvonne, I don't think you'll get flamed by anyone on this list. You are really smart to do your homework and no matter what you decide I wish you luck. I have to tell you that I was on this list back when was the biggest advocate of the Mini-Gastric Bypass. She flamed anyone who said anything negative about MGB and blasted people right and left for raising doubts about this surgery. I don't know the whole story, but she started posting that she was losing slowly. She also posted about all of the foods she was eating (a lot) and how many times she was dumping. She said she tended to push the envelope a lot. Then she went to have some tests done and found that her esophageous was enlarged and this allowed her to eat more food than normal MGB post op. This was not due to the MGB and to my knowledge no other MGB post op has had this problem. THEN she started asking for a revision, but she was only about 4 months post op. She asked Dr Rutledge to hire her to work for him and he said no. It seems that that is when the crap really hit the fan. She started posting really mean and nasty stuff and finally was denied access to the list although she is forwarded all the posts from other people. She emails many preops and postops threatening notes. She created the MGB-Truth site and totally revamped her web page from Dr Rutledge is a God to Dr Rutledge busted. I did a web search using 's name. I was shocked to find that she had a lot of negative articles written about her-you might want to take a look. It was then that I decided that she is a very sick woman. It is a fact that 3% of MGB patients end up not being happy with their results. That means that there are about 29 other unhappy post ops you could talk to if you wanted to. Although is an unhappy post op I don't think she is a good source of information regarding this surgery. If you want to do reseach on MGB there are a lot of other sources to use including doctors, surgeons, nurses, post ops, etc. You should note that there are many post ops who are nurses, doctors, wives of doctors, dentists, lawyers, professors, teachers and a lot of other professionals. Do you really think you are the only one to research this? One lady who recently had MGB went thru hell doing the research to convince her father who was some kind of medical professor. blasted her for questioning MGB. That lady and her father did a lot of research and she decided to have the MGB. I was not afraid to read what the " other " bariatric surgeons were saying about MGB. I would also actually like to read what " other " surgeons were saying about RNY back when it was first developed. I would venture to guess that there was not a lot of support from surgeons who were doing other WLS. I honestly don't know about long term MGB effects yet-Dr Rutledge has only been doing this surgery for 3 years. I do know about long term obesity complications. I also knew that I wanted a surgery that was easily reversible if the need arose. Ask your surgeon about that. You might also note that there are 6-8 other surgeons who are learning MGB from Dr Rutledge right now and at least 2 other surgeons are already performing MGB in other parts of the country. Again, whatever you decide I wish you the best. This is absolutely a support group for WLS no matter what kind. Questions are welcome and I am sure this is not the only post you'll get in response. If you are truly here to find information and do more research then you are at the right spot! Best Regards, Donna Schanzenbacher MGB 9/22/00 264/230/150 >Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 03:40:06 -0500 > >Subject: Re: Digest Number 2442 > > I want to introduce myself, I have been on this list for quite a while >because I have been looking into weight loss surgery for a while! > I am 44yrs old, married 23yrs, one son 20yrs old, about 5'1 " and >315lbs approx. I have looked at wls for 4 yrs. I am diabetic on insulin, >treated for high blood pressure/cholesterol, have a cpap for sleep apnea, >etc. > I live in Greenville, NC and am going through the very slow, thorough >process of the " Greenville Gastric Bypass " surgery (Dr. Cunningham). I >have not made a final decision; my husband needs to meet with the dr first >(he is very concerned as my lifelong partner). And there's a ton of other >things to consider... > But I am determined to find out everything I can about what is >available for bariatric surgery including looking at the downsides of each >type, etc. > I am also on other wls lists, trying to find out about the procedures >and everyone's experiences. The risks demand that I take a very serious >careful look at as much as I can before I make a decision that will have >such serious potential for major complications EARLY and LATE!!! > Most of these complications were discussed and told to me at my first >meeting with Dr. Cunningham, and they are potentially life-threatening >short-term and long-term...this surgery is not a fun jaunt to fly through >in a day and off you go down the yellow brick road happily ever after... > I do not see why anyone would be afraid to read what other bariatric >surgeons have to say about this procedure done by Dr. R. (it is different >than what anyone else is doing currently). > I have noticed a great deal of criticism on this list about a former >patient of Dr. R's as the one errant disgruntled nuisance... > I have seen her website " Dr. Rutlege Busted " - and I am sure for anyone >on this list who have had, or is planning to have his mini-gastric bypass >would find this website terribly upsetting, but also very informative, at >least raising some very valid questions. > She may be a disgruntled ex-patient, but it seems there is a lot of >research and surgeons who do not recommend Dr. R's procedure for exactly >what she describes happened to her. > I am not afraid to find out what she is talking about. So far, when I >compare what they used to do decades ago (that was very bad/dangerous) to >Dr. R's surgery, well, I don't see much difference. It does not take a >genius to look at diagrams side to side to see the incredible similarities >of Dr. R's surgery and the old Billroth loops... > I hope that the possible complications of alkaline reflux is >thoroughly looked into by each person on this list, as well as comparing- >the actual procedure Dr. R does- to the old Bilroth loop... > Perhaps I will get kicked off this list for coming out of lurkdom for >this post, I hope not though. I am alarmed enough at what the gastric >bypass they do here in Greenville entails, I do not need to go further into >other more controversial surgery procedures to get the willies. > Any one who is not completely sobered by the - realization of living >with these surgeries, even with everything going completely well, would be >foolish indeed. > The surgery here (Greenville Gastric Bypass) is backed by approx 19 >years of stats and accompanying info. Although Dr. R has done a bunch >(over 900?) he does not have that kind of history to look at and use to >evaluate things. > So, there are a lot of posts of seemingly happy newish patients on >this list. And, there are a lot of other renowned bariatric surgeons who >critisize Dr. R's procedures as one not used over two decades because of >the problems, along with lots of journal articles about the old >operation... > It makes me feel very uncomfortable when no one here wants to even >whisper anything about this on this list. > Please don't crucify me, I'm just trying to figure out what's going >on. It's my body, my life (God's actually), and I really want to know ALL >that I can- the good, bad and the ugly as they say. > Thanks for listening, I'm so terribly at wits end with all of this. >Lord I just want to get a chance at a normal life at a normal weight... > Sincerely, >Yvonne >ymrahmes@... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 YES LARA...CONGRATS TO YOU!!! I AM SO EXCITED FOR YOU!!! best of luck to you, but is the date of nov 8th correct...that is today!!! WOWW!!! leilla from claremont Digest Number 2443 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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