Flo, i think you're great, but...

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i do think you're great and i love your posts :-)

....but ...

i think you and some of the others are being a

little hard on michelle. i don't think she was an LT

follower (although she may be

one after all of this) and i don't think her original

post was hysterical or irrational.

the reality is, many of us, especially recent

post-ops and those

who have had major health problems like michelle, are

at least a

little bit right now wondering if we had made some

ghastly mistake and are going to pay a heavy penalty

down the road. i don't THINK that's true, but i can't

help but worry a little.

in that atmosphere, i think we should be as open

as possible and have as much information as possible

available, not shut down one of the primary sources of

information available to all of us.

sure dr. rutledge can do whatever he wants with

the list, but that doesn't mean that it is the right

thing to do, or the smart thing, in terms of how it

will affect people. and in my opinion, he

does owe us at least an explanation...after all, that

list is made up of all of us, our fears, hopes,

celebrations, etc., and i think it is

the right thing to do to tell us if it is no longer

going to function as that.

let me note that i can understand it if he has

been given legal advice that he shouldn't have the

list open, and i certainly can understand not wanting

to deal with the hassle, but then maybe he should just

close the list and let somebody else start it and

moderate so that he doens't have any liability. as it

stands, the list has little use to me, and i probably

just wouldn't use it. maybe that's no big loss, but it

would be unfortunate if many people felt

that way.

just my two cents...

anna

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wrote:

> As I sit here in tears I am speachless...no matter

> what I said, I did not DESERVE that.

>

> I was not frieking out about the access being gone.

> OTHER people were. I simply responded to someone

> who

> wanted to know HOW I knew that it was DR R who shut

> down access.

>

> The reason I would like an explanation is b/c I

> would

> like to know if that is HOW T was getting #'s

> etc. and if that is the reason why he chose to take

> away access. I am NOT the only one that said it did

> not look good on his part and I am NOT the only one

> that wondered why. But I am the ONLY one that just

> got there head taken off and spoken to like a child.

>

>

> You are right when you say that the archives cannot

> help me maintain my health or prove

> anything...however, alot of issues that happen post

> op, my Pcp does not know diddly about. One of the

> reasons I chose Dr R was b/c of the open access to

> e-mails from previous post ops. It has nothing to

> do

> with wanting to hurt or bash Dr R.

>

> I really need to get myself together b-4 writing any

> further. Not angry...Hurt.

>

>

>

> (who is BLOWN away and hurt right now)

>

> --- florence@... wrote:

> >

> > > > Trudy,

> > > > I guess I spoke out of turn b/c I DON'T know

> for

> > sure

> > > > that he did this, but how else would it have

> > happened?

> > > > If he did do this, I would appreciate an

> > explanation

> > > > as to why. It does not look good on his part

> > with all

> > > > that is going on. Ya know?

> >

> > Dear : I can't imagine that Dr. Rutledge

> > would feel that he had to explain to YOU why he

> took

> > down access if he did indeed take down archives.

> Why

> > would he owe any of us an explanation..he is the

> > list owner...this is his...this is free..we aren't

> > customers that have paid for a service which we

> are

> > being denied. This is HIS and we use it.

> >

> > I didn't think that he was trying to look good. I

> > think he's a doctor just trying to do his job. I.

> I

> > would imagine there are days when he regrets ever

> > having started these lists. What other doctors

> give

> > all patients such free and easy access to him, to

> > his other patients, to information, to criticize

> him

> > if they want...he permits it and he encourages it.

> > And he wants people with complications to post

> what

> > they are. There are warnings all over that this is

> > major surgery...and he wants patients who are

> > prepared for the negative things. Having your guts

> > rearranged does, after all, have a downside. A

> > bigger downside for some people that for others.

> >

> > What is it he owes you regarding the list? Why is

> > it an emergency to get in? It's only been down a

> > short time and maybe he wants a cooling off

> period.

> > Maybe his lawyer advised him to take it down.

> Maybe

> > his lawyer is concerned that he can be held

> > responsible for providing a forum in which

> people's

> > personal information is being used in order to

> > threaten and intimidate them? People were upset

> > with the disturbing emails...I'm sure there are

> many

> > who would prefer that access to their phone

> numbers,

> > etc. is not available. I've been free with my

> phone

> > number. I don't want anyone calling my husband or

> my

> > family members upsetting them. People were upset

> > that they were telephoned at work because their

> > wives had surgery. People were upset that their

> > co-workers were called. People were upset that

> their

> > mothers were called. Now that's something to

> really

> > get upset about .

> >

> > This has been a pretty free and easy list with

> > people constantly posting their phone numbers for

> > others to use if they needed emotional support.

> Then

> > someone comes along and uses that information to

> > send disturbing mail? To call family members?

> What

> > is that about?

> >

> > If you can't see that these tactics are EXTREME

> and

> > scarey and disturbing to normal thinking people

> then

> > something is wrong with your thinking. If I had

> the

> > world's worst complications from MGB, if I was

> > puking my head off and going to die from having

> it,

> > the last thing I would do would be to call

> someone's

> > boss or to call someone's husband or to call

> > someone's mother and scare the hell out of them!

> > That is inappropriate, that is scarey, that is

> > disturbed.

> >

> > > > Regardless of my experience with the MGB,

> (Good

> > & Bad)

> > > > I still respect Dr Rutledge to the fullest. I

> > am

> > > > confused and angry...trying to sort this all

> out

> > with

> > > > proof and hard facts to protect and maintain

> my

> > > > health.

> > > >

> > > > C

> >

> > I don't know what you're confused about .

> > And I don't know what you're angry about. That's

> not

> > clear to me. If you're scared, that I can

> > understand. If you're scared that you have had a

> > surgery that is everything that is

> > saying it is, I can understand your reaction. It

> > isn't my reaction but I do understand that may be

> > your reaction. But what would your not being able

> to

> > read past posts have to do with your confusion or

> > your anger. What are you trying to get proof of?

> > What hard facts do you need to protect and

> maintain

> > your health.

> >

> > To protect and maintain your health you see a

> > doctor. You had surgery, now you see YOUR doctor.

> If

> > he needs to talk to Dr. Rutledge, he'll call him.

> > If you are physically ill, you need to get to a

> Dr.

> > right away. Then you need to do what you are told

> to

> > do. The archives won't make you well. The archives

> > won't make the fact you had surgery go away. The

> > archives won't prove anything...whatever it is you

> > need proof of. The archives won't protect and

> > maintain your health. That's something you do with

> a

> > doctor.

> >

> > Your thinking is clearly not even .

> > Something is wrong with your nearly hysterical

> > reaction to a computer email group as being

> > something that is going to protect or maintain

> your

> > health. Something is wrong with thinking that Dr.

> > Rutledge is trying to look good. Something is

> wrong

> > with thinking that he owes us explanations for his

> > actions. He has been attacked. Should he just sit

> > around and get himself sued because someone is

> using

> > the information from the list HE OWNS AND

> MAINTAINS

> > to harass people?

> >

> > If I was a Dr. who had done what he has done in

> > terms of giving people access, information,

> surgery,

> > advice, yadda yadda yadda...I'll be damned if I'd

> > sit by and get attacked and then keep defending

> > myself because one woman, (one unstable woman who

> > believes the government bombed the federal

> building

>

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