Re: SCD for a month and just found out - no leaky gut-- Now really confused

[Guest guest]

Hi Laytonandgaving -

SCD isn't about guts leaking food into the body, it is about depriving bacteria

of food. You got bad behavior because when you starved the bacteria, they died

and released toxins.

Read BTVC for more.

brian

SCD for a month and just found out - no leaky gut-- Now

really confused

Finally got our pooh and urine results from the Doctor. Turns out

Gavin doesn't have leaky gut or yeast overgrowth according to his

tests. She recommended the GFCF diet, because he did turn out to be

allergic to both as well as bananas and wheat. Also had some amino

acid deficiencies (2), producing limited Folic acid, he's producing no

bifidus and she said he had a bacteria called Clostridia. I saw that

on another post somewhere saying if your child was not responding the

SCD or having severe regression, you might want to have him tested for

Clostridia. Wondered if anyone else found out they have this?

She gave me sooo much information, I am still in overload trying to

understand it all. We just came back from South Carolina for

christmas and the diet fell through the last few days, he had a few

cookies, Papa 's pizza and bread and several pieces of bacon. I

was expecting diarehha, but instead got dark colored, hard pooh. I am

going to try to keep him on SCD, with the exception of letting him

have some GFCF chips/pretzels and spaghetti noodles. He would only

eat cheese chips for snack and as we were in the doctors office he was

eating some and she said no more of that- he's allergic to them. So

being able to have what he thinks are real chips has given my mind a

rest, even if they are $4 a bag. Wanted to know if anyone else has

run into something similar to my situation, starting SCD and finding

out there was no leaky gut. Reading some of the details in the results

makes me think something still in fact is going on in his gut. I am

confused about the difference in not having leaky gut and " not having

good flora " in the gut. OOHH so much to figure out..... If he didn't

have leaky gut, why did his behaviors get worse once we started the

diet?

becky

Son 3 years old ASD

SCD 1 month

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[Guest guest]

Becky,

is right that what you saw was behavior due to die off of the bad

bacteria. I disagree with yourdoctor about just doing GF/CF instead of SCD.

You've definitely got to address the clostridia problem with the proper

probiotic to combat that one. I think that all of the veterans know which one

you need for that. My opinion is that you should stay with SCD especially

because when you get the clostridia...and other bad flora...out of his system,

it's going to take some tissue along with it. That's going to leave new, tender

tissue lining his gut. You need those pealed, deseeded, cooked foods that are

easy on his gut while he's rebuilding. Obviously, the labs show that there are

some gut issues to be dealt with, and SCD just is the most comprehensive diet to

help with healing.

Meleah

SCD for a month and just found out - no leaky gut-- Now

really confused

Finally got our pooh and urine results from the Doctor. Turns out

Gavin doesn't have leaky gut or yeast overgrowth according to his

tests. She recommended the GFCF diet, because he did turn out to be

allergic to both as well as bananas and wheat. Also had some amino

acid deficiencies (2), producing limited Folic acid, he's producing no

bifidus and she said he had a bacteria called Clostridia. I saw that

on another post somewhere saying if your child was not responding the

SCD or having severe regression, you might want to have him tested for

Clostridia. Wondered if anyone else found out they have this?

She gave me sooo much information, I am still in overload trying to

understand it all. We just came back from South Carolina for

christmas and the diet fell through the last few days, he had a few

cookies, Papa 's pizza and bread and several pieces of bacon. I

was expecting diarehha, but instead got dark colored, hard pooh. I am

going to try to keep him on SCD, with the exception of letting him

have some GFCF chips/pretzels and spaghetti noodles. He would only

eat cheese chips for snack and as we were in the doctors office he was

eating some and she said no more of that- he's allergic to them. So

being able to have what he thinks are real chips has given my mind a

rest, even if they are $4 a bag. Wanted to know if anyone else has

run into something similar to my situation, starting SCD and finding

out there was no leaky gut. Reading some of the details in the results

makes me think something still in fact is going on in his gut. I am

confused about the difference in not having leaky gut and " not having

good flora " in the gut. OOHH so much to figure out..... If he didn't

have leaky gut, why did his behaviors get worse once we started the

diet?

becky

Son 3 years old ASD

SCD 1 month

[Guest guest]

Meleah

I guess I had bacteria and yeast as one in the same in my head. How do i tell

the difference. What should I ask my doctor.

Becky

Son 3 years old ASD

SCD one month

robin wrote:

Becky,

is right that what you saw was behavior due to die off of the bad

bacteria. I disagree with yourdoctor about just doing GF/CF instead of SCD.

You've definitely got to address the clostridia problem with the proper

probiotic to combat that one. I think that all of the veterans know which one

you need for that. My opinion is that you should stay with SCD especially

because when you get the clostridia...and other bad flora...out of his system,

it's going to take some tissue along with it. That's going to leave new, tender

tissue lining his gut. You need those pealed, deseeded, cooked foods that are

easy on his gut while he's rebuilding. Obviously, the labs show that there are

some gut issues to be dealt with, and SCD just is the most comprehensive diet to

help with healing.

Meleah

SCD for a month and just found out - no leaky gut-- Now

really confused

Finally got our pooh and urine results from the Doctor. Turns out

Gavin doesn't have leaky gut or yeast overgrowth according to his

tests. She recommended the GFCF diet, because he did turn out to be

allergic to both as well as bananas and wheat. Also had some amino

acid deficiencies (2), producing limited Folic acid, he's producing no

bifidus and she said he had a bacteria called Clostridia. I saw that

on another post somewhere saying if your child was not responding the

SCD or having severe regression, you might want to have him tested for

Clostridia. Wondered if anyone else found out they have this?

She gave me sooo much information, I am still in overload trying to

understand it all. We just came back from South Carolina for

christmas and the diet fell through the last few days, he had a few

cookies, Papa 's pizza and bread and several pieces of bacon. I

was expecting diarehha, but instead got dark colored, hard pooh. I am

going to try to keep him on SCD, with the exception of letting him

have some GFCF chips/pretzels and spaghetti noodles. He would only

eat cheese chips for snack and as we were in the doctors office he was

eating some and she said no more of that- he's allergic to them. So

being able to have what he thinks are real chips has given my mind a

rest, even if they are $4 a bag. Wanted to know if anyone else has

run into something similar to my situation, starting SCD and finding

out there was no leaky gut. Reading some of the details in the results

makes me think something still in fact is going on in his gut. I am

confused about the difference in not having leaky gut and " not having

good flora " in the gut. OOHH so much to figure out..... If he didn't

have leaky gut, why did his behaviors get worse once we started the

diet?

becky

Son 3 years old ASD

SCD 1 month

[Guest guest]

Becky,

Others have addressed the leaky gut/SCD issue but I will say that Clostridia can

be helped with Sacchromyces Boulardii. Clostridia cannot be starved out and

sometimes needs some extra help. There is a legal S. Boulardii available from

Kirkman.

Charlene

Finally got our pooh and urine results from the Doctor. Turns out

Gavin doesn't have leaky gut or yeast overgrowth according to his

tests. She recommended the GFCF diet, because he did turn out to be

allergic to both as well as bananas and wheat. Also had some amino

acid deficiencies (2), producing limited Folic acid, he's producing no

bifidus and she said he had a bacteria called Clostridia. I saw that

on another post somewhere saying if your child was not responding the

SCD or having severe regression, you might want to have him tested for

Clostridia. Wondered if anyone else found out they have this?

She gave me sooo much information, I am still in overload trying to

understand it all. We just came back from South Carolina for

christmas and the diet fell through the last few days, he had a few

cookies, Papa 's pizza and bread and several pieces of bacon. I

was expecting diarehha, but instead got dark colored, hard pooh. I am

going to try to keep him on SCD, with the exception of letting him

have some GFCF chips/pretzels and spaghetti noodles. He would only

eat cheese chips for snack and as we were in the doctors office he was

eating some and she said no more of that- he's allergic to them. So

being able to have what he thinks are real chips has given my mind a

rest, even if they are $4 a bag. Wanted to know if anyone else has

run into something similar to my situation, starting SCD and finding

out there was no leaky gut. Reading some of the details in the results

makes me think something still in fact is going on in his gut. I am

confused about the difference in not having leaky gut and " not having

good flora " in the gut. OOHH so much to figure out..... If he didn't

have leaky gut, why did his behaviors get worse once we started the

diet?

becky

Son 3 years old ASD

SCD 1 month