Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 , You wrote, " I have had swelling...in the form of indentations that stay in...I mentioned to my Internist...but I have not my G.I. Should I be concerned? I went back and re-read my post #54411...hmmm? I sure can ramble. At any rate, chronic disease is so complicated and is difficult to isolate into different body systems. Re: informing your physicians, I have the records from each of my visits sent to each member of the healthcare team, so everyone knows what everyone else is doing. Re: pitting edema, the kind that feels like one of those rubbery stress balls, (when pressing a finger against a swollen area for 10 seconds and then quickly removing it, an indentation is left that fills slowly) I thought the best thing would be to help explain the different types and causes of edema, and questions you can ask yourself to collect data to give to your doctor. I never want to insult anyone's knowledge, but explaining in the simplest ways possible may help others. Edema is an observable swelling in certain parts of the body, most commonly occurs in the feet and legs, where it also is referred to as peripheral edema. The swelling is the result of the accumulation of excess fluid under the skin in the spaces within the tissues that are outside of the blood vessels. These spaces are known as interstitial spaces. Most of the body's fluids that are found outside of the cells are normally stored in two spaces; the blood vessels (where the fluids are called the blood volume) and the interstitial spaces (where the fluids are called the interstitial fluid). There are a few things to consider when evaluating edema: 1. Is the edema localized to one area of the body; ie; lower extremities? 2. Is the edema generalized throughout the body? 3. Is the edema symmetrical or asymmetrical? 4. Is the edema prompted when the legs are in a dependent position, ie; walking, standing? 5. Is the edema cyclical consistent with hormonal cycles or time of day? 6. Does the edema resolve when the legs are elevated? Edema is caused by either 1) local conditions involving just the affected extremities or by 2) systemic diseases, that is, diseases that affect the various organ systems of the body, Re: Localized Causes The veins in the legs are responsible for transporting blood up to the veins of the torso, where it is then returned to the heart. The veins of the legs have valves that prevent the blood from backing up in the veins. Venous insufficiency is incompetence of the veins that occurs because of dilation, or enlargement, of the veins and dysfunction of their valves. This leads to inadequate pumping of the blood by the veins. The resulting increased back-pressure in the veins forces fluid to leak into the interstitial tissue spaces (edema). This is a problem that is localized to the legs. One leg may be more affected than the other (asymmetrical edema). The response to therapy with diuretic drugs in patients with venous insufficiency tends to be unsatisfactory. This is because the continued pooling of fluid in the lower extremities makes it difficult for the diuretics to mobilize the edema fluid. Elevation of the legs periodically during the day and the use of compression stockings may alleviate the edema. Edema of the legs also can occur with an episode of deep vein thrombophlebitis, which is a blood clot within an inflamed vein. In this situation, the clot in the deep vein blocks the return of blood and consequently causes increased back-pressure in the leg veins. Re: Systemic Causes In systemic diseases, edema is a consequence of the hypoalbuminemia and activation of the renin-angiotensin- aldosterone hormonal system, which is an imbalance of salt, fluid, and protein. The kidneys control salt, the heart controls fluid, and malnutrition controls protein. [Not exactly, but for the sake of explanation]. It doesn’t really matter which came first, the chicken or the egg, they feedback system cycles either way. Systemic diseases that are associated with fluid retention generally cause the same amount of edema in both legs (symmetrical), and can also cause edema and swelling elsewhere in the body Re: Loss of Protein: 1. The heavy loss of protein results in a reduction in the concentration of albumin in the blood (hypoalbuminemia). 2. Since albumin helps to maintain blood volume in the blood vessels, a reduction of fluid in the blood vessels occurs. 3. The kidneys then register that there is depletion of blood volume, 4. To counter the seeming loss of fluid, the kidneys retain salt and water. 5. Consequently, fluid moves into the interstitial spaces, thereby causing pitting edema. Re: Impaired Heart Function: 1. In persons with impaired heart function has a decreased volume of blood pumped out by the heart. 2. This so called cardiac output is responsible for a decreased flow of blood to the kidneys. 3. As a result, the kidneys sense that there is a reduction of the blood volume in the body. 4. To counter the seeming loss of fluid, the kidneys retain salt and water. 5. Consequently, fluid moves into the interstitial spaces, thereby causing pitting edema. Re: Impaired Kidney Function: 1. Persons who have impaired renal function develop edema because of a limitation in the kidneys' ability to excrete sodium into the urine. 2. Consequently, fluid moves into the interstitial spaces, thereby causing pitting edema. 3. As a result, the heart senses there is a reduction of the blood volume in the body. 4. To counter the seeming loss of fluid, the heart works harder, but inefficiently, thereby having a lower output, etc. You asked, if you should be concerned? As long as the edema is addressed on your care plan, and is being followed, that is the most important thing to do. Anyone with chronic pancreatitis should live " as if " , and don't assume you are the exception. We know that the pancreas plays a pivotal role in all of the other organs and body systems, though the negative impact may not yet be apparent. Therefore I do what I can to nurture them for optimum function and not stress them out. [Key word: stress] Since I do have impaired and at risk body systems that have resulted in the presence of edema, both peripheral, localized, as well as systemic, I put my efforts to minimizing any secondary complications, which the edema may cause. Lastly, when I can understand how the body systems work and depend upon oneanother, it helps me understand and make better lifestyle choices. Karyn E. , RN Executive Director, PAI http://www.pancassociation.org Pancreatitis Association International Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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