Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 So I'm not totally nuts! I thought that I was the only one that some candles set up food cravings. I can't have really good vanilla ones in the house- they make me hungry! Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:38:32 -0500 jpg1747@a... writes: It finally got to the point where I have stopped buying food scented candles, air freshners, shampoos, hair conditioners, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Like the commercial that starts out, " In a perfect world... " . You would not have this fear of maintanance..You would not have food (good or bad) consume your lives and thoughts...all that you have learned would never leave or forsake you and you would be perfectly trained and prepared to maintain under goal for the rest of your life. You would never graze or be tempted to graze. When your head hit the pillow you would dream of warm breezes and a beautiful deserted beach and as your eyes follow the footsteps in the white sand they would lead to a small petite woman in the distance with a smile on her face...and it is you...20 years later. Then...you wake up. Let's see, hmmm, what low-carb breakfast can I have? Oops..I have to run and face the scale before I eat (before stepping on the scale pleading with the Scale God to plueeezzzzz have it be lower then yesterday..ok ok..I'll be happy with the same number!) Should I have a shake now or save it for later? I will not graze...I will not graze...I will not graze! Think I will take a ride to get SF Tang and those low-carb meals and Endulge ice-cream (wow, can't wait, I'm really excited I found a Super Wal-mart even if it is 40 miles away...I'm there! What did the scale say? Well, I decided not to weigh myself until my coffee kicked in. It is not a perfect world, but it is our world...yours and mine. It unites our hearts and makes us one. Carol G. > I have been sitting on your statement, Carol, for a few days now (obviously), > because quite frankly I found it so personally ... unsettling. An economy > of words in service of a profound truth, imprinted on MY heart but delivered > from YOUR mouth. > > Lucille > > > > I cannot imagine a life in which weight is not one of the major > > > daily > > > > dynamics. > > > > > > > > Is anyone with me here or did I just unload a lot of nonsense? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like every choice I make, every hour I breathe, every day I make it > > > to my bed and the last thought on my mind. > > > > > > Carol G. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 There was an hilarious article years back, I think in the New Yorker (?), about how some patients, displeased with their bored-seeming, distant, inattentive shrinks and/or other type mental hygienists, noticed said shrinks et al. became miraculously energized when said client tried to quit! LMAO! Suddenly, the doc got all sorts of revved up & hyperattentive! became veritable chatty kathys, animatedly & persistently trying to talk the client out of terminating therapy. As a result, and rather creepily, making it very uncomfortable for said client to quit. Client was challenged to JUSTIFY leaving! So the next several sessions would be spent discussing this desire to terminate, in friggin' detail! Then again, I know someone who told of having had a introductory session with a shrink, at which she droned on for some time, to discover that the doc was snoozing. Don't know how true this is or not (I tend to believe it), but frankly, knowing this person, if true, I don't blame the doc one bit! Signed, A contented (phychoanalytic) couch potato, Lucille In a message dated 12/12/2003 9:04:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Graduate-OSSG writes: > LOL Reba! I'm lucky if I get 10 or 20 words out of my shrink sometimes! > There was one day, though, that he started talking about something -- can't > remember what now, and after about ten minutes or so, I said, " , you > seem to > be forgetting that this is about ME - shut up. " He laughed, said, " You're > absolutely right! " and then shut up! > > Beth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 That is a good question. I'm not really sure. I'm only a little over 2 years out so I got a ways to see really how it all pans out in the long run. Carol, no, that is not nonsense at all. I admire too much the mirrors and pictures now..lol. I am not sure that will go away. If it does, it will once my mind catches up with my body. 20+ yrs of being overweight will take a lot of undoing to wipe it. I think we got obese by different reasons which is why certain things/tricks work for some..and other things work for others...why some are carb sensitive and others are not...etc. Some people are emotional eaters, others are not. Some people gorge/binge food and others do not. I do know one thing. I no longer live to eat, I now am pretty confident that I eat to live after enough months of behaviour modification. Since I can't fit in much into my stomach anymore, I am really choosy on what goes in there " most " meals. I just do not seem to view food the same way. I can't explain this fully just yet...and why I had to have surgery in order to feel this way. Varying food or indulging in crap food was my view of living a little before this surgery, I never gave a thought about what the junk food did to my body before. My buddy ate it and didn't gain weight, why couldn't I? I really look at other things instead of food now to feel that I'm living. That isn't to say that I don't indulge here and there and also don't think about indulging. Usually I'm not drawn to over indulging or binging though and never was too much prior to surgery. I just felt always hungry and ate pop, pasta and breads...all the wrong chemical hazards I could think of that never satisified my thirst nor hunger. I know I will always have to watch not going back to the foods that helped make me fat, but I don't consider myself obsessing over it or having to really work at it anymore. I also don't consider myself denying myself either. Those foods are BAD for me. Most had zero nutrition and the others that had some...are not the best nutritional picks anyway. Maybe I'll feel differently after a few more years have passed but right now, I feel such a peace because of this tool and behaviour modifications I can't describe it. Peace from 25+ yrs of worry and defeat and guilt and rejection. The shakes is what was my saviour and is what worked for me and my chemical problems, the tool worked for me for my quantity problems and helps malabsorb. What I wouldn't give to have a wand to go out and touch ppl with that granted them this feeling...but we all have to search what our habits are and find solutions - my solution did not come over night. The last part of that last sentence I feel is KEY no matter what turns the tide for you. Always keep mind and heart open to find them and think " I got this operation to be Healthy..am I doing all I can do to fulfill that? " Love you all, Sherra PS. I just about cried last night when I slipped on my velvet black dress I had saved from Junior High LOL geez...JUNIOR HIGH! I reached 130 and I thought I'd give it a try and wow, it was an inch too big but was nice not to have to " suck it in " the whole night. Re: Laugh if you will > > > > > I cannot imagine a life in which weight is not one of the major > daily > > dynamics. > > > > Is anyone with me here or did I just unload a lot of nonsense? > > > > > > Like every choice I make, every hour I breathe, every day I make it > to my bed and the last thought on my mind. > > Carol G. > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Maybe he is afraid you'll get better by talking to us? LMAO then you wouldn't be going to him? I really think some are threatened by the online world because it " can " be therapeutic. You guys have no clue what you have done for me LOL..well yes ok some of you sure do if you feel the same way as I do about this group. I feel like you have saved not only my physical life but also my sanity. It is amazing how hearing how others feel that you can identify with, can be so calming to ones psyche. And the online world, in my experience, people tend to open up more. I had a very hard time going in person to support groups because of the egos not allowing people to open up and tell their bad experiences. If you were too happy, you were slapped down, if you were too sad, you were ridiculed. Was just crazy so I couldn't go back. I am willing to try another day..maybe another group if I find one, but not in a rush because you guys are honestly filling that void. Who do I send the check to? /snicker Sherra Re: Laugh if you will > Got to ring in here. Went to a shrink to adjust some depression > meds. In our talking session (he did most of the talking) I spoke > about my live and internet support groups. He told me that support > groups like that were only for the ones who are having problems so I > would see more people with more problems there than in real > life....NO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THIS MAN!!!!! And I will never go > back to that particular doc. Damned string bean! Doesn't know s**t > from shineola about being fat! Not a good shrink either. Any > shrink worth their wt in salt doesn't talk more than the client and > keep lookin' at the clock! > > Reba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 I'm sharing in your joy with you, Sherra! You go girl Carol G. > That is a good question. > > I'm not really sure. I'm only a little over 2 years out so I got a ways to > see really how it all pans out in the long run. > > Carol, no, that is not nonsense at all. I admire too much the mirrors and > pictures now..lol. I am not sure that will go away. If it does, it will > once my mind catches up with my body. 20+ yrs of being overweight will take > a lot of undoing to wipe it. > > I think we got obese by different reasons which is why certain things/tricks > work for some..and other things work for others...why some are carb > sensitive and others are not...etc. Some people are emotional eaters, > others are not. Some people gorge/binge food and others do not. > > I do know one thing. I no longer live to eat, I now am pretty confident > that I eat to live after enough months of behaviour modification. Since I > can't fit in much into my stomach anymore, I am really choosy on what goes > in there " most " meals. I just do not seem to view food the same way. I > can't explain this fully just yet...and why I had to have surgery in order > to feel this way. Varying food or indulging in crap food was my view of > living a little before this surgery, I never gave a thought about what the > junk food did to my body before. My buddy ate it and didn't gain weight, > why couldn't I? I really look at other things instead of food now to feel > that I'm living. That isn't to say that I don't indulge here and there and > also don't think about indulging. Usually I'm not drawn to over indulging > or binging though and never was too much prior to surgery. I just felt > always hungry and ate pop, pasta and breads...all the wrong chemical hazards > I could think of that never satisified my thirst nor hunger. > > I know I will always have to watch not going back to the foods that helped > make me fat, but I don't consider myself obsessing over it or having to > really work at it anymore. I also don't consider myself denying myself > either. Those foods are BAD for me. Most had zero nutrition and the others > that had some...are not the best nutritional picks anyway. Maybe I'll feel > differently after a few more years have passed but right now, I feel such a > peace because of this tool and behaviour modifications I can't describe it. > Peace from 25+ yrs of worry and defeat and guilt and rejection. The shakes > is what was my saviour and is what worked for me and my chemical problems, > the tool worked for me for my quantity problems and helps malabsorb. What I > wouldn't give to have a wand to go out and touch ppl with that granted them > this feeling...but we all have to search what our habits are and find > solutions - my solution did not come over night. The last part of that last > sentence I feel is KEY no matter what turns the tide for you. Always keep > mind and heart open to find them and think " I got this operation to be > Healthy..am I doing all I can do to fulfill that? " > > > > Love you all, > > Sherra > > PS. I just about cried last night when I slipped on my velvet black dress I > had saved from Junior High LOL geez...JUNIOR HIGH! I reached 130 and I > thought I'd give it a try and wow, it was an inch too big but was nice not > to have to " suck it in " the whole night. > > > Re: Laugh if you will > > > > > > > > > I cannot imagine a life in which weight is not one of the major > > daily > > > dynamics. > > > > > > Is anyone with me here or did I just unload a lot of nonsense? > > > > > > > > > > Like every choice I make, every hour I breathe, every day I make it > > to my bed and the last thought on my mind. > > > > Carol G. > > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 wow how insightful thanks for sharing your heart janice Re: Re: Laugh if you will That is a good question. I'm not really sure. I'm only a little over 2 years out so I got a ways to see really how it all pans out in the long run. Carol, no, that is not nonsense at all. I admire too much the mirrors and pictures now..lol. I am not sure that will go away. If it does, it will once my mind catches up with my body. 20+ yrs of being overweight will take a lot of undoing to wipe it. I think we got obese by different reasons which is why certain things/tricks work for some..and other things work for others...why some are carb sensitive and others are not...etc. Some people are emotional eaters, others are not. Some people gorge/binge food and others do not. I do know one thing. I no longer live to eat, I now am pretty confident that I eat to live after enough months of behaviour modification. Since I can't fit in much into my stomach anymore, I am really choosy on what goes in there " most " meals. I just do not seem to view food the same way. I can't explain this fully just yet...and why I had to have surgery in order to feel this way. Varying food or indulging in crap food was my view of living a little before this surgery, I never gave a thought about what the junk food did to my body before. My buddy ate it and didn't gain weight, why couldn't I? I really look at other things instead of food now to feel that I'm living. That isn't to say that I don't indulge here and there and also don't think about indulging. Usually I'm not drawn to over indulging or binging though and never was too much prior to surgery. I just felt always hungry and ate pop, pasta and breads...all the wrong chemical hazards I could think of that never satisified my thirst nor hunger. I know I will always have to watch not going back to the foods that helped make me fat, but I don't consider myself obsessing over it or having to really work at it anymore. I also don't consider myself denying myself either. Those foods are BAD for me. Most had zero nutrition and the others that had some...are not the best nutritional picks anyway. Maybe I'll feel differently after a few more years have passed but right now, I feel such a peace because of this tool and behaviour modifications I can't describe it. Peace from 25+ yrs of worry and defeat and guilt and rejection. The shakes is what was my saviour and is what worked for me and my chemical problems, the tool worked for me for my quantity problems and helps malabsorb. What I wouldn't give to have a wand to go out and touch ppl with that granted them this feeling...but we all have to search what our habits are and find solutions - my solution did not come over night. The last part of that last sentence I feel is KEY no matter what turns the tide for you. Always keep mind and heart open to find them and think " I got this operation to be Healthy..am I doing all I can do to fulfill that? " Love you all, Sherra PS. I just about cried last night when I slipped on my velvet black dress I had saved from Junior High LOL geez...JUNIOR HIGH! I reached 130 and I thought I'd give it a try and wow, it was an inch too big but was nice not to have to " suck it in " the whole night. Re: Laugh if you will > > > > > I cannot imagine a life in which weight is not one of the major > daily > > dynamics. > > > > Is anyone with me here or did I just unload a lot of nonsense? > > > > > > Like every choice I make, every hour I breathe, every day I make it > to my bed and the last thought on my mind. > > Carol G. > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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