Re: naturopathic course of treatment for UC

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I am not a seasoned SCDer but I am studying with people who are well versed

in heavy metal chelation - I would ask more about this aspect...what does he

use, how long does he anticipate this part of the program to be, where does

he send the metal to be chelated (you want to send it to the stool and not

to the urine!), and while chelating, what is he giving your son to support

his other systems? Digestion and illumination REALLY need to be in good

order to do hm chelation from what I have been taught and what I have read.

It is something I will be doing as well, but and getting my digestive system

in good working order first. ~ Janine

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naturopathic course of treatment for UC

I am considering having my son see a naturopathic doctor who went into

natural medicine after a 21 day stay in the hospital with severe UC. Before

spending the money for the initial 1 1/2 hour session, I asked the doctor if

he could share his method of treatment for UC.

This is what he shared with me:

" What has worked for me and several clients, usually looks like this:

FIrst, use soothing and calming herbs to reduce the inflammation and improve

digestion. When appropriate, and if needed, a heavy metal chelation. This is

followed by a 6 to 10 week program called weed and feed, where we kill yeast

2 days a week,and provide encouragement to good bacteria five days a week.

We finish with immune modulators to get the body to not attack itself. "

He also gave me the name of a patient's mother in the same situation...same

age son with UC...that he has treated. I am free to call her and here about

his approach and the results. He personally has not any UC problems since he

did a weed and feed in 1996.

I am hoping that given my son's strict adherence to SCD for 4 months, he

would respond well and quickly to this type of treatment. He wants to go out

of town in December on a hunting trip with his older brother and of course

wants to be strong enough and feel well enough to do so. (He really needs to

have some fun in his life at this point!) He did LDN for two weeks and felt

so badly that he stopped it. I think he has a yeast issue and we are in the

middle of working with our family dr. regarding having an OAT performed.

Where LDN would/could play into this I don't know. I'm trying to decide

which path to take at this point: 1) Continue to play hit or miss on our own

by staying on SCD, getting the OAT and finding out how to treat the yeast,

then try LDN again or, 2) stay on SCD with the naturopathic oversight and

guidance.

I would love to hear what seasoned UC sufferers on SCD think of this

doctor's approach and any advice they might have regarding the two paths!

Eileen

Mother of 19 yo with UC

UC 5 years

SCD 4 months

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[Guest guest]

For what it's worth (I am not very knowledgeable about chelation)a person I

highly respect, Tamaro of the Vit K list, who is also a big fan of SCD

(for kids with autism), suspects that chelation may not be effective if body pH

is too acidic. To combat acidity kids on her list take baking soda baths (8

cups), drink Elaine's electrolyte drink and supplement phosphorus (Angstrom

liquid). Body acidity can be seen in a blood test for CO2, which is part of a

renal function panel and may be part of some other standard blood tests.

I just throw this out because chelation did nothing for (autism) and this

may explain why, so I pass it along in case it helps someone.

, mom to

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> naturopathic course of treatment for UC

>When appropriate, and if needed, a heavy metal chelation.

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

I'm in the process of beginning chelation and I've done a fair amount of

research on it. The only truly safe protocol, I believe, is known as low-dose

or frequent-dose chelation. It is also known as the Cutler protocol. It's like

SCD in that it is highly scientifically based, and dosing frequency is based on

the half-life of the chelator, not on what is convenient for a doctor. I would

highly recommend checking out the Yahoo groups, " Autism-Mercury, " " Frequent Dose

Chelation, " and " Adult Metal Chelation. " While you are at it, I'd also look at

things like:

http://www.dmpsbackfire.com/default.shtml

DMPS is a safe drug and an effective one for chelating mercury and arsenic, and

you will note that everyone on the DMPS Backfile webpage had an IV chelation.

With IV, there is one large spike in the blood concentration of the chelator

which falls off rapidly. What this does is mobilize a bunch of mercury and then

set it free for redistribution. Low-dose keeps a steady blood level of the

chelator, so the mercury/metal stays bound up as it leaves the body. Having

experienced a small redistribution following one round of low-dose chelation at

12.5 MG DMPS, I can assure you that you would not want to subject your son, if

he is truly metal toxic, to it on the larger scale that would occur at 100+ MG

of DMSA or DMPS. EDTA does work on lead, but it is uncertain if lead is

implicated in UC or autism or chronic fatigue, etc.

I'm not sure how the doctor plans on determing if your son is metal-toxic, but

it can be difficult to do so, particularly with mercury. Everything I've read

in the literature, and my own experience well bears this out, is that mercury

testing is really unreliable. I had a holistic MD tell me I was not mercury

toxic based on a hair test that showed I was excreting no mercury, but this

probably indicated that my detoxification pathways had broken down and I was

retaining all my mercury. BTW, a different hair test two years later and

one-and-a-half years after being on SCD shows that I am now excreting mercury.

My rate is low, but it is coming out.

Chelation is pretty serious business, as you can do substantial harm if it isn't

done properly. Do your research and don't let yourself get pressured into

anything, either by the doctor or your son's desire to push the envelope.

Good luck, and I hope he makes his hunting trip.

Ellen

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Ellen,

Were you still following the chelation protocol during the time you were on SCD?

Do you attribute mercury excretion to SCD, the protocol or both? Many SCDers

believe they can safely chelate with just following the SCD, though I believe

(after researching Dr. Cutler's protocol), that, one must also use ALA - Alpha

Lipoic Acid to chelate from the brain - nothing else will chelate mercury from

the brain. SCD does help to keep the digestion at its best while chelating,

besides the fact that since one is not consuming grains on the diet, the

disruption to the enzymes needed to digest grains and casein is not such an

issue (since mercury messes up their function in the body).

Suneeti (Crohns, SCD 2000)

BTW, a different hair test two years later and one-and-a-half years after being

on SCD shows that I am now excreting mercury. My rate is low, but it is coming

out.

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Hi Suneeti,

I only recently had my amalgams removed and began chelation about a week ago,

and I have been on SCD since March of last year. My first hair test was taken

after I first got sick in March 2008 and it showed no detectable mercury being

excreted. As I had at that time three fillings hidden under metal crowns, I was

taking in a lot of mercury, and I think the zero mercury reading shows that I

was retaining it all.

Last month, before I took the fillings out, I re-took the test, more for

curiousity than anything else, and it showed that I am now excreting mercury.

The value is still in the low range (at 0.31 picograms) but it is moving out of

my body.

I very much attribute this to SCD. In searching for all potential reasons for a

change in my excretion state, I cannot think of anything else that could have

contributed.

I agree with you on the Cutler protocol. I think that SCD works miracles, but

it isn't going to take it out of the brain. ALA is needed for that.

Ellen

> Were you still following the chelation protocol during the time you were on

SCD? Do you attribute mercury excretion to SCD, the protocol or both? > Suneeti

(Crohns, SCD 2000)

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, Ellen. And good luck with the chelation!

Suneeti (Crohns, SCD 2000)